Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched

meekrab · Post #321 » by **meekrab** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:58 am

How do you match a Vlade Divac contract? Wish Zach well in the firey hellhole that is Sacramento.

TheHrvReport · Post #322 » by **TheHrvReport** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:58 am

This is exactly what I said would happen. Everyone on here said he would get offers at 12-13 million..lol ok. I expect Bulls to match as well

Red8911 · Post #323 » by **Red8911** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:58 am

madvillian wrote:
Ice Man wrote:I said that Zach wouldn't get an offer this high. I was wrong. Props to those who disagreed.

Of course, I wouldn't match. But I do not run the Bulls.

You failed to account for the stupidity of the Kings. Which, is pretty stupid

Kings are stupid but at the same time they don’t really have that many options anyway. Sure they got bagley and Fox but nothing else. They don’t even have a pick next year so this potential move would bring some excitement to fans and hope he reaches his full potential.

keloms · Post #324 » by **keloms** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:58 am

Don't think the Bulls are going to regret it either way, but, it's 100% the right option to either lock him up long term now or let him walk. No 1+1 games or going back to the table next year.

keobulls · Post #325 » by **keobulls** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:58 am

DarthDiggler69 wrote:Zach is a guy who gets numbers, doesnt make a difference in the W/L column and isnt going to become an allstar. Id love to give him a chance but not at 4/78. We might regret it someday but as of now he doesnt make the team any better

The other part of the "we might regret it" train of thought is that he is going to the KINGS. This won't be an Oladipo situation where he gets better and the team makes strides, it's the KINGS.

meekrab · Post #326 » by **meekrab** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:59 am

IrishBeatdown wrote:Is it not a warning sign that the worst organization in the league just offered a bloated contract no one else was willing to put up? And you guys want to match it?

I'm done here.

Seriously. Matching this is insanity. He's never been anything but a highlight reel on bad teams.

madvillian · Post #327 » by **madvillian** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:59 am

If they match and he sucks this is it for GarPax. You think if nothing else they'd lean on letting him walk as it buys them more time.

Christ, listen to me. This is what we've been reduced to as Bulls fans. Hoping our own management is smart enough to realize their job security would be endangered.

TheGOATRises007 · Post #328 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:00 am

Please tell me we're not matching this.

Just saw the news.

HoopsterJones · Post #329 » by **HoopsterJones** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:00 am

If the Bulls match Lavine let’s hope for the best and he breaks out and plays up to the contract. If he walks, gas up the tank and let’s go for Zion.

blicka · Post #330 » by **blicka** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:00 am

Ice Man wrote:
blicka wrote:In a league where ryan anderson,loul deng,allen crabbe,joakim noah and tim hardaway jr are getting 17-20 mil annually

You guys really think it's bad to pay a 23 year old who has a better skillset than any of these players this money?

So ...let me get this straight ... you want the Bulls to emulate those contracts?

No I'm saying you can't say he's not worth it when a market has been set since the cap went up and inferior players are getting similar amounts

Tim hardaway jr is not a better player than zach lavine and he got 72 mil. Lavine will get 6 mil more

Dominator83 · Post #331 » by **Dominator83** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:01 am

holv03 wrote:Bulls will be matching. If they don't I'll be surprise. Rodney Hood is a player we will go after if we don't match.

Jesus Christ. If we don't match, can we please not still just waste money? Keep 2 max slots open for next year. If no Zach, then lets just roll with Hutchison at the 2 and Valentine at the 3 and see if anythings there, while having major cap flexibility throughout the season. Even if they get Hood on a 1 year deal, i would still start Hutch and Val. Push the guys that might actually have futures here

SlimD235 · Post #332 » by **SlimD235** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:01 am

HELL TO THE NO! Matching looks us into mediocrity forever. We will have the same success with or without him. Let him walk.

SensiBull · Post #333 » by **SensiBull** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:01 am

keobulls wrote:
DarthDiggler69 wrote:Zach is a guy who gets numbers, doesnt make a difference in the W/L column and isnt going to become an allstar. Id love to give him a chance but not at 4/78. We might regret it someday but as of now he doesnt make the team any better

The other part of the "we might regret it" train of thought is that he is going to the KINGS. This won't be an Oladipo situation where he gets better and the team makes strides, it's the KINGS.

Exactly, and it's in the West.

Even if they became GREAT, would they beat OKC? Houston? LA Lakers? GSW? Minnesota? Denver? A reuild Phoenix? San Antonio? New Orleans?

Man.

Let. Zach. Walk.

WestsideResider · Post #334 » by **WestsideResider** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:01 am

The thing with his gf and him quoting friedell kinda piss me off more than they should. The nerve of this guy that’s never contributed anything to a winning team acting like he’s coming off a career year or something.

Post #335 » by **Payt10** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:01 am

kulaz3000 wrote:Honestly, I'm so meh about the whole Zach situation. I really don't really care if we match or let him go quite honestly. I really haven't been so ambivalent about such a big decision by the Bulls, which probably means that best decision would be to let him go.

That's kind of similar to the way I feel. I'm not going to be up in arms if they don't match, because I can understand the other side of the argument, but I'm still leaning towards re-signing him, because I'm not at all confident they're going to be able to do much of anything with that cap space anyways, as far as signing a superstar-caliber player. The Bulls are going to have to do this thing with the assets they already have, or by trade, so losing one of their promising young players for nothing doesn't make much sense to me. If you have to overpay, I'm fine doing it for a 23 year old.

SensiBull · Post #336 » by **SensiBull** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:01 am

It's not like we'll be playing against the Kings in the Finals.

Bye, Zach.

Red8911 · Post #337 » by **Red8911** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:02 am

Scalaboner wrote:
madvillian wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

God damnit. KC is slowly boiling the water so we don't jump out. ****.

Yeah KC the voice of GarPax is already preparing fans for a match so most likely they will match......if this impacts us potentially getting two FA to come to Chicago to play buddy ball GarPax deserves to finally be fired. We will see within two years if it’s worth it or not.

Maybe but not necessarily. KC kept writing about Bridges before the draft and even Porter,Bulls obviously got neither of them and they were available. Also last year he was off about the jimmy situation. Again maybe he could be right now about Lavine but doesn’t mean he’s always on point.

BR0D1E86 · Post #338 » by **BR0D1E86** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:02 am

blicka wrote:
Ice Man wrote:
blicka wrote:In a league where ryan anderson,loul deng,allen crabbe,joakim noah and tim hardaway jr are getting 17-20 mil annually

You guys really think it's bad to pay a 23 year old who has a better skillset than any of these players this money?

So ...let me get this straight ... you want the Bulls to emulate those contracts?

No I'm saying you can't say he's not worth it when a market has been set since the cap went up and inferior players are getting similar amounts

Tim hardaway jr is not a better player than zach lavine and he got 72 mil. Lavine will get 6 mil more

Tim Hardaway Jr is absolutely better than Lavine.

kulps19 · Post #339 » by **kulps19** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:02 am

You know they’ll match and we will hear the old-phrase, “we like our core”. Paxson has a lifetime head of front office gig no matter what he does anyway.

Dresden · Post #340 » by **Dresden** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:02 am

Scalaboner wrote:
madvillian wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

God damnit. KC is slowly boiling the water so we don't jump out. ****.

Yeah KC the voice of GarPax is already preparing fans for a match so most likely they will match......if this impacts us potentially getting two FA to come to Chicago to play buddy ball GarPax deserves to finally be fired. We will see within two years if it’s worth it or not.

Dave Haugh is such a know nothing tool. "Potentially means to the franchise". Yeah, if he suddenly becomes the next Kobe Bryant. But what are the odds? You don't throw a bunch of money at a guy because you need him to rescue your franchise. What a bad idea.

Match? 4 yrs 78 mil