Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched

[Kurt Heimlich]

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18 mil

So 20 mil isnt much of a stretch. Im fine with it

Front loaded as well, the cap hit in the latter 2 years is akin to the 4/72 we offered him in the first place anyway.

I thought the KANGZ only had 17M of cap? How can they front load a 4 year 78/80M deal?

[TheGOATRises007]

That was NEVER going to happen.

Anything can happen in the NBA.

You need to have cap space during this buddy-buddy era.

The Bulls can plan to trade for LeBron and KD since anything can happen....

You probably didn't think KD would bolt and join the Warriors

Or Lebron-Wade-Bosh teaming up in Miami back in 2008 or w/e

We're in the buddy-buddy era. We're a big market. And we're in the East. If certain players want to group up, you need to have the capability to go after them.

[WindyCityBorn]

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Lmao **** him. This is how the Bulls approach RFA

That's why no one wants to play here. Our front office sucks. Never proactive.

[gf2020hotmail]

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He's just trying to save face from the owning he got last week. Dude has been getting away with his garbage reports for years so it's about time someone pointed it out and exposed what a fraud he is.

How did he get owned? He reported the Bulls were less positive on him and hoped to get him for $16 million. It appears that was right because Zach was forced to get this offer.

[TheHrvReport]

DeRozan is one of the most overrated players in the league. And probably the worst playoff performer of all time.

Hoping he becomes DeRozan as if that's a good thing....

That's your opinion. He's a 4 time NBA all-star and was All-NBA team twice, so i'll gladly take that for 4 years 80 million.

We're now judging players on all star appearances?

The very thing people love to criticize.

DeRozan getting All-NBA team twice is a crime itself as well. Lowry is by far the Raptors' player with the most impact.

But the media love these 1 dimensional inefficient scorers.

That's nice, dear. But I'll take the people who are paid to evaluate his game's opinion (coaches, journalists, etc) over a random real gm posters opinion any day. Now you just sulk while the Bulls match this in the next 48 hours.

[Grodoboldo]

We’re gonna match it, aren’t we?
****. These morons can’t help themselves.
They should just draft. Throw picks at them, make them draft in the second round as well.
But for **** sake, don’t let them do anything else.

Man, I’ll be sick to my stomach with this contract. Boozer at least made sense in that we were trying to compete
But were in year TWO of our rebuild! Why overpay one way player who can’t even get their **** together on twitter?????

[Dominator83]

At worst he's a G League talent demanding a starting gig and taking up a significant amount of your cap space. That's not acceptable.

You can't genuinely think Lavine is a G-League talent, that's just ridiculous.

He's a 20 point a game scorer, who, discounting a 24 game sample last season, was an efficient shooter on a high volume of 3 point attempts.

Zach Lavine is the Scott Podsednik of the NBA. He's a guy that advanced metrics absolutely killed the value of. He's a guy that looks like a baller, Hits (or scores) and runs like a baller, but when you consider his value relative to what leads to winning it's near replacement.

Sorry Zach, you played in the wrong era, the Analytics Era.

Thats an insult to Scott Podsednik! He was a big part of a championship team here.

[BR0D1E86]

18 mil

So 20 mil isnt much of a stretch. Im fine with it

Front loaded as well, the cap hit in the latter 2 years is akin to the 4/72 we offered him in the first place anyway.

I thought the KANGZ only had 17M of cap? How can they front load a 4 year 78/80M deal?

They're the most creatively stupid front office in the league (other than ours, if the matching rumors are true). So I wouldn't put anything past them.

[TheGOATRises007]

Actually it isn't nonsense, it's examples of Minnesota not being able to develop even high level talent.

Lavine has an excellent work ethic from all reports and I'm prepared to give him a shot in a place that isn't Minnesota.

If people are raging at this then they might want to avoid the NBA entirely next off-season because they may just suffer heart attacks at the contracts that are going to be handed out.

It's not a crippling deal, I would have liked a 4/70 million dollar deal but it is what is.

Are you insinuating that Wiggins is being held back from his potential(whatever it is, if he even has potential at this point) because of Minnesota? If so, that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on here.

I'm saying Minnesota can't develop talent.

And Wiggins has talent?

I don't think even a hardcore Minny fan would say that.

Only talent he has is jumping high.

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Lmao **** him. This is how the Bulls approach RFA

That's why no one wants to play here. Our front office sucks. Never proactive.

They offered him $18 million a year. They were proactive with Felicio last year. How'd that turn out?

[holv03]

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He's just trying to save face from the owning he got last week. Dude has been getting away with his garbage reports for years so it's about time someone pointed it out and exposed what a fraud he is.

He's really a Magic fan. I have no idea why he even covers the Bulls. They should off gave me his job. I would off moved to Chicago and done it with some class.

[fleet]

Lavine and Felicio contracts. The financial foundation of your Chicago Bulls. Strong.

[TheGOATRises007]

That's your opinion. He's a 4 time NBA all-star and was All-NBA team twice, so i'll gladly take that for 4 years 80 million.

We're now judging players on all star appearances?

The very thing people love to criticize.

DeRozan getting All-NBA team twice is a crime itself as well. Lowry is by far the Raptors' player with the most impact.

But the media love these 1 dimensional inefficient scorers.

That's nice, dear. But I'll take the people who are paid to evaluate his game's opinion (coaches, journalists, etc) over a random real gm posters opinion any day. Now you just sulk while the Bulls match this in the next 48 hours.

Logical fallacy.

People of expertise are not always the best judge.

MJ was the GOAT and he is garbage at evaluating NBA players.

[sco]

Here' the reality. If you're the FO, you sorta gotta resign him because if you lose him it could be the end of GARPAX, if you keep him and he sucks, at least you'll have the year before you get it, but if he's great, there's the only path to job saving.

[Payt10]

Just for fun, Zach Lavine's rank in espn's real plus minus by year:

17/18 - 471 (Sean Kilpatrick was 472)
16/17 - 388
15/16 - 388
14/15 - 471 (out of 474)

So yeah, let's throw money at this loser.

Derrick Rose rated better. Let that sink in.

Anyone that takes major stock in anything Zach Lavine did last year, stats-wise, is fooling themselves. Most players struggle the first year coming off major knee surgery. He was also trying to integrate himself on a new team that was trying to be bad.

[_txchilibowl_]

We're now judging players on all star appearances?

The very thing people love to criticize.

DeRozan getting All-NBA team twice is a crime itself as well. Lowry is by far the Raptors' player with the most impact.

But the media love these 1 dimensional inefficient scorers.

That's nice, dear. But I'll take the people who are paid to evaluate his game's opinion (coaches, journalists, etc) over a random real gm posters opinion any day. Now you just sulk while the Bulls match this in the next 48 hours.

Logical fallacy.

People of expertise are not always the best judge.

MJ was the GOAT and he is garbage at evaluating NBA players.

That same logic applies to armchair quarterbacks as well....only magnified ten fold.

[madvillian]

You can't genuinely think Lavine is a G-League talent, that's just ridiculous.

He's a 20 point a game scorer, who, discounting a 24 game sample last season, was an efficient shooter on a high volume of 3 point attempts.

Zach Lavine is the Scott Podsednik of the NBA. He's a guy that advanced metrics absolutely killed the value of. He's a guy that looks like a baller, Hits (or scores) and runs like a baller, but when you consider his value relative to what leads to winning it's near replacement.

Sorry Zach, you played in the wrong era, the Analytics Era.

Thats an insult to Scott Podsednik! He was a big part of a championship team here.

Totally off topic but he contributed about 2 WAR in 2005. He was a bit player that was beloved because he hit for a high average and had a square jaw.

Actually I take that back, 2 WAR is a about a league average player in MLB, ie a solid starter. By basketball WAR (advanced +-) Zach Lavine is a AAA player.

I'm sorry to have insulted Scott.

[madvillian]

Just for fun, Zach Lavine's rank in espn's real plus minus by year:

17/18 - 471 (Sean Kilpatrick was 472)
16/17 - 388
15/16 - 388
14/15 - 471 (out of 474)

So yeah, let's throw money at this loser.

Derrick Rose rated better. Let that sink in.

Anyone that takes major stock in anything Zach Lavine did last year, stats-wise, is fooling themselves. Most players struggle the first year coming off major knee surgery. He was also trying to integrate himself on a new team that was trying to be bad.

Most players never return to form following an ACL, including players that were actually good, like Rondo.

[BR0D1E86]

Just for fun, Zach Lavine's rank in espn's real plus minus by year:

17/18 - 471 (Sean Kilpatrick was 472)
16/17 - 388
15/16 - 388
14/15 - 471 (out of 474)

So yeah, let's throw money at this loser.

Derrick Rose rated better. Let that sink in.

Anyone that takes major stock in anything Zach Lavine did last year, stats-wise, is fooling themselves. Most players struggle the first year coming off major knee surgery. He was also trying to integrate himself on a new team that was trying to be bad.

Are ignoring now that he's been horrible every year of his career, and last year was more or less in line with his career with a small drop in ts%?

[TheHrvReport]

We're now judging players on all star appearances?

The very thing people love to criticize.

DeRozan getting All-NBA team twice is a crime itself as well. Lowry is by far the Raptors' player with the most impact.

But the media love these 1 dimensional inefficient scorers.

That's nice, dear. But I'll take the people who are paid to evaluate his game's opinion (coaches, journalists, etc) over a random real gm posters opinion any day. Now you just sulk while the Bulls match this in the next 48 hours.

Logical fallacy.

People of expertise are not always the best judge.

MJ was the GOAT and he is garbage at evaluating NBA players.