Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 6

[Illmatic12]

So far - a bit of consensus with the below - what about Milwaukee and Miami?


Boston, Philly, Toronto, Indy

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Wizards

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Cleveland

I see no reason why Indiana is on a different tier from Washington. Assuming health all around, I'd say something like

Boston
Philly/Toronto/Washington/Indy
Milwaukee/Detroit/Miami
Cleveland/Charlotte

Just a question - you think that the 19 game differential will be closed between Toronto and Washington? You think Philly and Washington are now at the same level?

My ranking is moreso relative strength going into the postseason, not necessarily regular season wins.

I’ll probably take a guess at W-L/seeding predictions closer to the start of the season when all the dust has settled.

[FAH1223]

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[dckingsfan]

I see no reason why Indiana is on a different tier from Washington. Assuming health all around, I'd say something like

Boston
Philly/Toronto/Washington/Indy
Milwaukee/Detroit/Miami
Cleveland/Charlotte

Just a question - you think that the 19 game differential will be closed between Toronto and Washington? You think Philly and Washington are now at the same level?

My ranking is moreso relative strength going into the postseason, not necessarily regular season wins.

I’ll probably take a guess at W-L/seeding predictions closer to the start of the season when all the dust has settled.

Gotcha - I am doing regular season W/L...

[dckingsfan]

Chandler to the Sixers... can't hurt and they pick up one of those dreaded 2nd round picks.

[dckingsfan]

Parker to Charlotte takes care of their very biggest weakness - a backup PG, IMO. I predict they are battling for 7th/8th with 40+ wins. I like that Hernangomez becomes their starting C who is a solid 3 point shooter. Having Hernangomez/Williams as the starting FC will spread the floor for Walker/MKG should get them a bunch more wins.

[gravytrain24]

4y-80m offer by Sac for Levine. I think the Bulls match that.

[trast66]

4y-80m offer by Sac for Levine. I think the Bulls match that.

They did. But why?

[Eli Babak]

GarPax are like Grunfeld, they won't admit their mistakes. Though I think my man Lauri Markkanen is going to be really good player eventually and Kris Dunn definitely improved last year. Also they're going nowhere this season and LaVine is still just 23. I guess if some day they want to get rid of him they can dump him to Sacramento, just like Portland did with Allen Crabbe.

[JWizmentality]

20mil for Lavine? Yikes. Very Grunfeldian.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Other than the hype does Lonzo Ball seem to be a special player at the NBA level?

Other than the hype does Lonzo Ball seem to be a special player at the NBA level?

I actually think Lonzo is a sneaky good player. The problem is that his dad causes so many problems that it actually becomes a bit of a knock on him. The Lakers do better with Lonzo than without. He's better than his numbers - he isn't a superstar, but he's good. But the Spurs already leave town when the rodeo comes to town; I doubt they're anxious to have circus trips like the Bulls, too.

The guy on the Lakers I question is Brandon Ingram. He's had a lot of hype and a lot of Durant 2.0 talk, and he at least looks like he belongs in the league in the sense that he should be on someone's bench at this point, but he really hasn't looked very good thus far at all. He has a lot more in common with Andrew Wiggins than he does with Durant.

I also think Lonzo ball is going to be not just sneaky good but good.

The cautionary tale is that of Michael Carter-Williams who has not been a good player since some promise his rookie season. Part of me thinks that Lonzo might be a bit like Michael Carter-Williams.

I think Lonzo make some really good defensive plays he has a great passer and he is fast with the ball. He is a quick decision maker and a true floor general. When Lonzo came back from his injury he was hitting the three and played much better at the end of last season.



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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Parker to Charlotte takes care of their very biggest weakness - a backup PG, IMO. I predict they are battling for 7th/8th with 40+ wins. I like that Hernangomez becomes their starting C who is a solid 3 point shooter. Having Hernangomez/Williams as the starting FC will spread the floor for Walker/MKG should get them a bunch more wins.

What about the kid out of Indiana. Zeller should be there starting center I thought

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[nate33]

Parker to Charlotte takes care of their very biggest weakness - a backup PG, IMO. I predict they are battling for 7th/8th with 40+ wins. I like that Hernangomez becomes their starting C who is a solid 3 point shooter. Having Hernangomez/Williams as the starting FC will spread the floor for Walker/MKG should get them a bunch more wins.

It's hard to believe Parker has been around for 17 years.

[nate33]

20mil for Lavine? Yikes. Very Grunfeldian.

And LOL at the Kings for even offering that. Luckily for them, Chicago matched and saved them from their own ineptitude.

[nate33]

Parker to Charlotte takes care of their very biggest weakness - a backup PG, IMO. I predict they are battling for 7th/8th with 40+ wins. I like that Hernangomez becomes their starting C who is a solid 3 point shooter. Having Hernangomez/Williams as the starting FC will spread the floor for Walker/MKG should get them a bunch more wins.

What about the kid out of Indiana. Zeller should be there starting center I thought

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Zeller is an underrated player. He's the best pick-setter in the league and he's a very good team defender. He really needs to develop a reliable outside shot though. Teams ignore him on offense. If he could learn to pick and pop like Jason Smith did for us 2 years ago, he'd become a top 12 center.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Next to Sato Brooks really gets on my nerves for not playing Jason Smith at least token minutes each game.

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[nate33]

Next to Sato Brooks really gets on my nerves for not playing Jason Smith at least token minutes each game.

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I can't knock Brooks for that.

Smith was truly horrible for us last year. Literally unplayable. He shot 12% from 3-point range at had a TS% of .455. His on/off was -15.6, and that's while playing against garbage time scrubs. His defense was atrocious.

Coaches can't afford to allow third string players to play through their slumps. You do that with starters, not end-of-bench guys. End-of-bench guys have to figure out a way to break out of their slump in practice. Be ready contribute in short 3-4 minute spurts. That's your job.

And I say all this as a guy who likes Jason Smith. I thought he was rock solid for us two years ago. That little pick-and-pop game he developed with Trey Burke kept the 2nd unit offense afloat.

[trast66]

It’s going to get expensive to keep Kelly and Sato based on LaVine and Anderson. Might be risky due to injury factor but offer them extensions now?

[FAH1223]

It’s going to get expensive to keep Kelly and Sato based on LaVine and Anderson. Might be risky due to injury factor but offer them extensions now?

I’d be surprised if Sato got more than 4 years $30M on the open market

Kevin did an analysis on Oubre and said his true value is 4 years $36M. Basically a regular MLE contract.

More teams will have cap room next summer but there will be more bigger fish on the market.

The issue is teams like the Kings.

[dckingsfan]

Now going to the bottom of the Eastern Division - it seems like Atlanta improved itself but for the distant future. No way those guys make the playoffs. The only thing thus far that surprises me is that they haven't been able to move Schroder yet. They are also interested in taking contracts for picks.

[dckingsfan]

Boston, Philly, Toronto, Indy

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Wizards

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Cleveland, Atlanta