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Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched

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Match? 4 yrs 78 mil

No, NO. Nononono
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Yes. We must.
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Total votes: 300

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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1021 » by BR0D1E86 » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:25 pm

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daspenguin wrote:Woke up this morning here in Europe and saw the headline: "Kings sign Lavine." First thought: wow, Bulls really dodged a bullet there. But of course it's the Bulls, so they will pay 20 million a year to a guy who will make no difference to the win/loss record.

Did the Bulls see Lavine at the end of last year? I don't think they did. Sure, he's a great athlete, but he is probably the worst and most unwilling passer in a Bulls uniform and that's saying something. Dude gets double teamed on pick and rolls and he never ever finds the open man. I'm sure he works hard and is probably a very nice guy, but that's no reason to pay him that money. Just let him go to the Kings.


I seriously doubt he will be that selfish going forward. He was trying to prove his worth knowing this would happen. He doesn't have to press now that he has security. Also the thing about pick and roll isn't true. He isn't a poor passer. Unwilling can't disagree with that from that 24 game sample, but again I think that had more to do with the situation.

He had the second highest assist rate of his career last season. The only season higher was his rookie year, when he had nearly as high of a turnover rate as an assist rate. If you’re expecting less selfish ball, there’s very little evidence that he’s interested in it.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1022 » by brucey_72 » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:26 pm

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brucey_72 wrote:Well looks like we know who our SG, PF, and C are for the next few seasons. Hopefully 1 of them turn into an All Star and at least one of them turns into a solid plus player. If all 3 turn can turn plus players I will be happy.

IMO Markkanan has a high ceiling and high floor player. Lavine is a medium ceiling and low floor. Carter is a medium ceiling and high floor player


Dunn is probably our PG for the next two seasons at least.


Unfortunately you are correct. Maybe he can develop.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1023 » by biggestbullsfan » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:26 pm

How many games do we have to lose early on for the team to go back into tank mode? Lol
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1024 » by rtblues » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:34 pm

71% of votes in the poll were for "No, NO. Nononono" (140 out of 200 votes)
Wow, that 29% is sure showing up here making the most noise.

One of the sidebar issues that also is bugging me are Lavine's tweets and comments during the process.
Feeling loved and wanted by SAC, etc., makes it sound like the Bulls just paid a guy who ain't even really all that excited to
be here.

Oh, and he's bad at basketball too, so there's that too..
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1025 » by MisterRoy » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:37 pm

rtblues wrote:71% of votes in the poll were for "No, NO. Nononono" (140 out of 200 votes)
Wow, that 29% is sure showing up here making the most noise.

One of the sidebar issues that also is bugging me are Lavine's tweets and comments during the process.
Feeling loved and wanted by SAC, etc., makes it sound like the Bulls just paid a guy who ain't even really all that excited to
be here.

Oh, and he's bad at basketball too, so there's that too..


The Bulls FO will smooth everything over. Zach will realize this is the business part of basketball and all will be fine.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1026 » by TheFinishSniper » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:38 pm

Dont match please. But seems Bulls matched. :(
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1027 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:45 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:Dont match please. But seems Bulls matched. :(


Yes it was matched. :D
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1028 » by TheFinishSniper » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:52 pm

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TheFinishSniper wrote:Dont match please. But seems Bulls matched. :(


Yes it was matched. :D

Thsi front office will put me on antidepressives if it didnt already. 20M per year of net negative high fly dunker with ACL knee.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1029 » by bledredwine » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:53 pm

My gut reaction is “Wow this is idiotic” but my conscience reasons that SG’s are hard to find and Lavine does what an SG is expected to do well. Aside from this, he makes us a more attractive destination and perhaps Jimmy is part of our plans in the grand scheme. If we had Lauri Lavine Jimmy Wendell, that’s a heck of a better squad than we had before Jimmy left. Then, we’d have potential to be a Toronto-tier team, which is nothing to cry about. That all being said, this is a straight up bad contract, assuming he doesn’t improve.
:o LeBron is 0-7 in game winning/tying FGs in the finals. And is 20/116 or 17% in game winning/tying FGs in the 4th/OT for his career. That's historically bad :o
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1030 » by molepharmer » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:53 pm

I tend to take the bird in the hand rather than the two in the bush simply because when I've opted to wait for the two in the bush I've been disappointed. But a part of me is always wondering about what I may have passed up. So reluctantly, I'm okay with the signing. Ugh.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1031 » by TheFinishSniper » Sat Jul 7, 2018 12:55 pm

Someone on this thread said he will be most hated Bulls player. Contract and personality wise he checks all the boxes

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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1032 » by JohnnyTapwater » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:02 pm

Sac really knows how to screw with us...

kicking us back to the 7th pick... forcing more money out our pocket for Zach...

Damn you Sac..
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1033 » by Lotty8989 » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:05 pm

I'm on the side that likes the lavine match....keep him.....who on the bulls can create their own shot???? I thought you needed players who could do that in the NBA maybe I'm wrong but zach lavine will prove alot of you wrong because he wants to be great he's not one of those players who's going to settle and at 23 he's going to make mistakes but what most of yall don't see is his hunger but he had this summer to get better lets judge him after that
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1034 » by ChiTownNation » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:08 pm

I’d take Lavine at this price over Jimmy at 35 million per year, which is what he’ll get next Summer.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1035 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:09 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:Someone on this thread said he will be most hated Bulls player. Contract and personality wise he checks all the boxes

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How so? He clearly didn't want to play for Sacramento, but the Bulls forced his hand to sign the offer sheet. Not sure why people are taking umbrage with what he said. Part of the reason Gordon Hayward left Utah was because he didn't like how they made go out and get an offer sheet as a restricted free agent. These guys have egos...surprise. Chicago was quick to match as to not let the sentiment linger.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1036 » by MrSparkle » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:11 pm

4-year guaranteed? Ok man.. :-?

Dumb offer from a dumb team, Bulls forced to match to save face.
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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1037 » by Real AM » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:13 pm

Another downside to matching this offer - Zach being #1 option instead of Lauri to justify the contract.

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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1038 » by JohnnyTapwater » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:15 pm

Bulls FO be like... but you guys say we're so cheap and don't spend money..

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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1039 » by SHO'NUFF » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:16 pm

So...who the hell else is excited to have Lavine on the Bulls for the next 4 years?!?!



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Re: Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched 

Post#1040 » by danzou » Sat Jul 7, 2018 1:17 pm

molepharmer wrote:I tend to take the bird in the hand rather than the two in the bush simply because when I've opted to wait for the two in the bush I've been disappointed. But a part of me is always wondering about what I may have passed up. So reluctantly, I'm okay with the signing. Ugh.


Does 'bird in hand' include dodo birds?

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