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grindtime22 wrote:grindtime22 wrote:4/48 would start around 10.65 while 4/44 would start at 9.76. Either way, we would probably have to shave a million or two if we are going to sign Bird and still slip under the tax.
Nevermind, I'm probably wrong. Are raises based on just the 1st year or based on the previous year?
Kyridiculous wrote:cloverleaf wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Honestly I could care less if Smart is back or not. Hayward coming back and the strides that Rozier continues to make will mean less and less minutes for Smart and that’s great for the Celtics
I'm with you. If Smart's the soul of this team, after his antics this summer I think the team needs a new soul.
What antics are you referring to? We've barely heard directly from Smart other than him tweeting about spending time with his Mom. Any "reports" from sources in his camp aren't necessarily coming from him/or true for that matter.
brackdan70 wrote:grindtime22 wrote:grindtime22 wrote:4/48 would start around 10.65 while 4/44 would start at 9.76. Either way, we would probably have to shave a million or two if we are going to sign Bird and still slip under the tax.
Nevermind, I'm probably wrong. Are raises based on just the 1st year or based on the previous year?
I think your math checks out but IDK.
Andrew McCeltic wrote:You can’t expect a 24 year old kid to fully understand the dynamics of a negotiation - they’re not always clear to the people who have experience with them. It does seem like his agent is not aware of NBA dynamics - other than Fox in Sacramento, Smart is, I think, his biggest client. The “hurt”, “disgusted” stuff, whether real or feigned, doesn’t look good and doesn’t manage Smart’s reputation carefully.
Celts17Pride wrote:The Comedian wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Who doesn’t love Smart shooting 4 for 15 when Jayson Tatum has 5 shot attempts?
Smart took 15 shots or more three times last year, Tatum took 12/12/11 shots in those games.
Everyone, this is a good example of what i mean about anti Smart people always using hyperbole to fail at proving their points. Know what people do love? Outscoring the other team, and thats what the Celtics did all year when Smart played.
Anytime Smart has more shots than Tatum it’s bad for the Celtics
grindtime22 wrote:Andrew McCeltic wrote:You can’t expect a 24 year old kid to fully understand the dynamics of a negotiation - they’re not always clear to the people who have experience with them. It does seem like his agent is not aware of NBA dynamics - other than Fox in Sacramento, Smart is, I think, his biggest client. The “hurt”, “disgusted” stuff, whether real or feigned, doesn’t look good and doesn’t manage Smart’s reputation carefully.
Happy has been around the block
The Comedian wrote:cloverleaf wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Honestly I could care less if Smart is back or not. Hayward coming back and the strides that Rozier continues to make will mean less and less minutes for Smart and that’s great for the Celtics
I'm with you. If Smart's the soul of this team, after his antics this summer I think the team needs a new soul.
You mean spending it with his cancer stricken mom while his agent took care of contract stuff? Yeah what a jackass, how dare he. Too bad he's not affiliated with the Bloods like Terry.
soxfan2003 wrote:Homerclease wrote:Gant wrote:
You'd think Brad might consider Brown on Thompson and Smart on Curry to be beneficial when Kyrie is not in the game.
Well in the finals I expect Brown and Kyrie to be up near 40 minutes a night leaving Smarts role largely trivial. He’s of course useful but not worth breaking the bank for, nor the end of the world if he walks. He’s a 7th man on a title squad at best
Smart should be considered a 6th man... Smart is better than many starter on championship teams but Warriors have raised the bar. Smart played major minutes on a team that was one game away from the NBA finals this year despite not having 2 stars and another rotation player. Yes, Cavs not that good but still.
Celtics titles chances go down significantly next year without Smart. I'd even say they go in the toilet if a replacement is not found and Warriors end up in the finals. Yes, Celtics would still be favored to face the Warriors but I am not optimistic of Boston beating them without Smart and without Ainge making a trade for a replacement.
Not going to beat the GSW by outscoring them. Not going to beat them by having Kyrie just focus on offense for 40 MPG. Kyrie/Brown everyone else needs to be going _all out_ like the Spurs kind of did when beating the Heat and beat them with depth/physicality/mental breakdowns. Outside of players like a fairly young Michael Jordan's can't expect players to truly give max effort for 40 MPG even in the NBA finals so if possible you are better off lower the minutes when you stars(Kyrie/Hayward/Horford/Tatum) are truly not top tier. Chasing Curry around is exhausting.
If if just becomes a game of horse between the starting units, Golden State(Curry/Klay/KD) beats the Celtics 95 out of 100 times.
Celtics need to within the rules muck the game up a bit. Smart can be a huge part of that if he is healthy and in shape.
The Comedian wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:The Comedian wrote:
I agree, I'm one of the king Tatum fanboys. But let's not act like Tatum flat out wouldn't look for his shot a bunch this year.
Honestly I could care less if Smart is back or not. Hayward coming back and the strides that Rozier continues to make will mean less and less minutes for Smart and that’s great for the Celtics
If you really believe Smart won't play 25 mpg or so, i don't know what to tell you. It's well established that Brad thinks of Smart as a sixth starter. Rozier is going back to being a role player, something he clearly will have to adjust to again. They will both play around 25 mpg, maybe a bit more depending on if Morris goes. (fingers crossed haha)
Big Joke Line wrote:So much crow is going to be eaten.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
Big Joke Line wrote:soxfan2003 wrote:Homerclease wrote:Well in the finals I expect Brown and Kyrie to be up near 40 minutes a night leaving Smarts role largely trivial. He’s of course useful but not worth breaking the bank for, nor the end of the world if he walks. He’s a 7th man on a title squad at best
Smart should be considered a 6th man... Smart is better than many starter on championship teams but Warriors have raised the bar. Smart played major minutes on a team that was one game away from the NBA finals this year despite not having 2 stars and another rotation player. Yes, Cavs not that good but still.
Celtics titles chances go down significantly next year without Smart. I'd even say they go in the toilet if a replacement is not found and Warriors end up in the finals. Yes, Celtics would still be favored to face the Warriors but I am not optimistic of Boston beating them without Smart and without Ainge making a trade for a replacement.
Not going to beat the GSW by outscoring them. Not going to beat them by having Kyrie just focus on offense for 40 MPG. Kyrie/Brown everyone else needs to be going _all out_ like the Spurs kind of did when beating the Heat and beat them with depth/physicality/mental breakdowns. Outside of players like a fairly young Michael Jordan's can't expect players to truly give max effort for 40 MPG even in the NBA finals so if possible you are better off lower the minutes when you stars(Kyrie/Hayward/Horford/Tatum) are truly not top tier. Chasing Curry around is exhausting.
If if just becomes a game of horse between the starting units, Golden State(Curry/Klay/KD) beats the Celtics 95 out of 100 times.
Celtics need to within the rules muck the game up a bit. Smart can be a huge part of that if he is healthy and in shape.
This is so wrong i dont know where to start. Bill Walton was 6th man in 86. Vinnie Johnson was 6th man for the Bad Boy Pistons and some times Dantley. No championship team I can remeber had 6th man worse than Smart. I give up.
