Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat

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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#21 » by smittybanton » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:24 am

Mwd1981 wrote:
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Dude, get over your pretend Sixers trade. It’s not happening.



Took you six or seven posts to say something reasonable. Not informative, since all trade suggestions are unlikely. But reasonable, finally. Was that so hard?

"It's not happening". But let's also consider the fact that you've been wrong seven or eight times already. So how much would this statement mean to me or any of the thousands of people who read RealGM?

Please find a way to keep this going. You are at least entertaining.


Smartie - Sixers need a GM. You should apply. NOT!


Wow. that hurt my feelings. LMAO! Whoever's coming to pick you up should've been here by now. Don't you think?
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#22 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:37 am

smittybanton wrote:
Mwd1981 wrote:
smittybanton wrote:

Took you six or seven posts to say something reasonable. Not informative, since all trade suggestions are unlikely. But reasonable, finally. Was that so hard?

"It's not happening". But let's also consider the fact that you've been wrong seven or eight times already. So how much would this statement mean to me or any of the thousands of people who read RealGM?

Please find a way to keep this going. You are at least entertaining.


Smartie - Sixers need a GM. You should apply. NOT!


Wow. that hurt my feelings. LMAO! Whoever's coming to pick you up should've been here by now. Don't you think?


Sorry I was busy making up rubbish pretend trades
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#23 » by cheese318 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:08 am

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smittybanton wrote:giving him permission to talk trades means okc and anthony are NOT negotiating a buyout. it means the thunder have found a team who can absorb melo's expiring contract. the sixers. if carmelo can't find them a better deal, the thunder will send anthony, dakari johnson and maybe terrance ferguson to philadelphia for $23m in expiring contracts--Wilson Chandler, Jerryd Bayless and Richaun Holmes. the sixers waive carmelo, keep ferguson and johnson, carmelo goes to la..or wherever.


Worst theory ever

Wojnarowski didn’t provide any specifics on Anthony’s meeting with the Heat, but says that coach Erik Spoelstra has been a “strong advocate” of adding the 10-time All-Star.

Before Anthony can sign with the Rockets, the Heat, or any other club, he’d need to become a free agent. According to Wojnarowski, the Thunder are still exploring possible trade scenarios that would send Carmelo to a new team, which would subsequently waive him. However, such an outcome seems unlikely — no team has the cap room to absorb his $28MM salary outright, and any over-the-cap clubs would have to send out more than $22MM to meet salary-matching rules.

Teams with cap room available are more viable trade partners for Oklahoma CIty, but would still have to send out some salary in any deal, and would likely expect significant assets from the Thunder, whose 2020 first-rounder is tied up as a result of another trade.

Anthony also has a no-trade clause, but he has agreed to waive it if he gets sent to a team that doesn’t intend to keep him, Wojnarowski notes.


Yeah, totally implausible. LMAO. really shut me up and tell us who okc is negotiating with. you don't even have to name the contracts. just tell me the team(s).


Themselves because no one wants that contract without a first round pick applied
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#24 » by cheese318 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:18 am

smittybanton wrote:
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so you concede that a) its not gutting any of the teams, b) that its a good move for the sixers and the thunder, and c) that you don't know who wojnarowski is referring to regarding negotiations the thunder are having?

that's about right, right? lmao!!! now you have a new tact?

please keep this going. lol.


Again quoting your Woj bomb “such an outcome seems unlikely”.

Why would Thunder give up Ferguson? Teams don’t give up 1st round picks on cost controlled salaries. Especially with the promise he has shown.

What team wants Melo for 28 million? He’s just a contract like Dwight Howard.

Why would Sixers want him for 28 million? They already have expiring deals to facilitate trades and cap space for next offseason. Melo’s contract is less flexible than the contracts they already have.

Again OKC are not giving up future assets, and won’t want to take on any big long term salaries in a trade.

Trade partners? Think of teams needing cap relief to get under the tax line and are willing to give up a role player for it. They’ll also need a large expiring deal.



Bwaaahaaaahaa. You can't stop, huh.

You went from "worst theory ever" to hoops rumors saying its "unlikely", like all trade suggestions.. Do you see how far from grace you've fallen?

OKC saves $20m and gets a forward in chandler who will contribute much more than ferguson and johnson. Or do you disagree with this too? LMAO.

The Sixers get young players you just mentioned the paragraph before. You don't even listen to your own self! BWWAAAAAHHHAAAAHHAAAH

This is the best part. You said, "won’t want to take on any big long term salaries in a trade." BWaahahaa. Which one of Chandler, Bayless or Holmes is a longterm contract?

More, please. More!!!!!!


You do realize they did not trade for Chandler for the purpose to move him. They actually want him on the roster and believe he is a very good fit moving forward for this coming season. It is just a dumb trade in general that only makes sense so they can move Melo. I am pretty sure Chandler cannot be moved again for a certain amount of time but I see him being moved for Melo as a long shot and not happening. Maybe Miami or Houston can help but 76ers are intent to play the year out with Wilson Chandler
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#25 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:53 am

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smittybanton wrote:
Mwd1981 wrote:
Again quoting your Woj bomb “such an outcome seems unlikely”.

Why would Thunder give up Ferguson? Teams don’t give up 1st round picks on cost controlled salaries. Especially with the promise he has shown.

What team wants Melo for 28 million? He’s just a contract like Dwight Howard.

Why would Sixers want him for 28 million? They already have expiring deals to facilitate trades and cap space for next offseason. Melo’s contract is less flexible than the contracts they already have.

Again OKC are not giving up future assets, and won’t want to take on any big long term salaries in a trade.

Trade partners? Think of teams needing cap relief to get under the tax line and are willing to give up a role player for it. They’ll also need a large expiring deal.



Bwaaahaaaahaa. You can't stop, huh.

You went from "worst theory ever" to hoops rumors saying its "unlikely", like all trade suggestions.. Do you see how far from grace you've fallen?

OKC saves $20m and gets a forward in chandler who will contribute much more than ferguson and johnson. Or do you disagree with this too? LMAO.

The Sixers get young players you just mentioned the paragraph before. You don't even listen to your own self! BWWAAAAAHHHAAAAHHAAAH

This is the best part. You said, "won’t want to take on any big long term salaries in a trade." BWaahahaa. Which one of Chandler, Bayless or Holmes is a longterm contract?

More, please. More!!!!!!


You do realize they did not trade for Chandler for the purpose to move him. They actually want him on the roster and believe he is a very good fit moving forward for this coming season. It is just a dumb trade in general that only makes sense so they can move Melo. I am pretty sure Chandler cannot be moved again for a certain amount of time but I see him being moved for Melo as a long shot and not happening. Maybe Miami or Houston can help but 76ers are intent to play the year out with Wilson Chandler


No he doesn’t realise. Sixers got Chandler cause he fits, and they retain flexibility for trades.

OKC can’t trade a first until 2022, so they don’t have much to attract trades, and they’ll need cost controlled players around Adams/George/Westbrook.

The only teams that would consider trading for Anthony are teams looking to get under tax line, and OKC won’t want to take back more money than the 28 million they send out.

The teams looking to dump salary won’t be contenders, so Anthony will block trade unless he’s guaranteed buyout.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#26 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:01 am

in the spirit of rubbish pretend trades-

Brooklyn - Anthony and Bayless and Phi 1st
Philly - Allen Crabbe
OKC - Demarre Carroll

Philly would have to add some filler contract for BKN to absorb.

Phi get shooting
BKN get a 1st and more cap space next summer
OKC can keep a good 3+D guy or waive him a lot cheaper than Carmelo
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#27 » by Sam195 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:55 pm

I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#28 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:37 pm

Sam195 wrote:I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.


Who says no? I think Rockets, Thunder and Carmelo say no. Rockets don’t need to give up assets to get Carmelo, he apparently wants to be there, and Anderson fits even though he’s overpaid. Funny Capela and Paul haven’t yet been signed giving Houston full MLE to sign Melo.

Thunder aren’t giving up picks. They need low cost players around their big 3.

Carmelo is getting all his money anyway so he isn’t agreeing to a deal where his destination gives up assets.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#29 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:59 pm

Sam195 wrote:I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.


My pretend trade is 100x better than yours
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#30 » by Sam195 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:02 pm

Mwd1981 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.


Who says no? I think Rockets, Thunder and Carmelo say no. Rockets don’t need to give up assets to get Carmelo, he apparently wants to be there, and Anderson fits even though he’s overpaid. Funny Capela and Paul haven’t yet been signed giving Houston full MLE to sign Melo.

Thunder aren’t giving up picks. They need low cost players around their big 3.

Carmelo is getting all his money anyway so he isn’t agreeing to a deal where his destination gives up assets.


Carmelo will agree if he lands where he wants to go (this was the same guy who let the Knicks sell the farm so he could be acquired from Denver and ink a contract extension before the 2011 lockout). Also pretty sure his ego would prefer a trade than a buyout and the media ridicule that comes with it like his friends Deron Williams and Dwight Howard recently experienced. Rockets will pay the picks to unload Ryan Anderson and have cap room next summer to sign a big fish including Capella if he signs his qualifying offer and opts for a bigger max deal next summer as a ufa. Thunder would so rather give up picks than waive Melo for 30M cash (which triggers 100M in luxury tax savings) to not play for them.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#31 » by Mwd1981 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:12 pm

Sam195 wrote:
Mwd1981 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.


Who says no? I think Rockets, Thunder and Carmelo say no. Rockets don’t need to give up assets to get Carmelo, he apparently wants to be there, and Anderson fits even though he’s overpaid. Funny Capela and Paul haven’t yet been signed giving Houston full MLE to sign Melo.

Thunder aren’t giving up picks. They need low cost players around their big 3.

Carmelo is getting all his money anyway so he isn’t agreeing to a deal where his destination gives up assets.


Carmelo will agree if he lands where he wants to go (this was the same guy who let the Knicks sell the farm so he could be acquired from Denver and ink a contract extension before the 2011 lockout). Also pretty sure his ego would prefer a trade than a buyout and the media ridicule that comes with it like his friends Deron Williams and Dwight Howard recently experienced. Rockets will pay the picks to unload Ryan Anderson and have cap room next summer to sign a big fish including Capella if he signs his qualifying offer and opts for a bigger max deal next summer as a ufa. Thunder would so rather give up picks than waive Melo for 30M cash (which triggers 100M in luxury tax savings) to not play for them.


Nope. Not gonna happen. My trade is 100x better! Lol. Your on drugs if you think Kings get 4 picks for absorbing Ryan Anderson contract.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#32 » by Sam195 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:21 pm

Mwd1981 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:
Mwd1981 wrote:
Who says no? I think Rockets, Thunder and Carmelo say no. Rockets don’t need to give up assets to get Carmelo, he apparently wants to be there, and Anderson fits even though he’s overpaid. Funny Capela and Paul haven’t yet been signed giving Houston full MLE to sign Melo.

Thunder aren’t giving up picks. They need low cost players around their big 3.

Carmelo is getting all his money anyway so he isn’t agreeing to a deal where his destination gives up assets.


Carmelo will agree if he lands where he wants to go (this was the same guy who let the Knicks sell the farm so he could be acquired from Denver and ink a contract extension before the 2011 lockout). Also pretty sure his ego would prefer a trade than a buyout and the media ridicule that comes with it like his friends Deron Williams and Dwight Howard recently experienced. Rockets will pay the picks to unload Ryan Anderson and have cap room next summer to sign a big fish including Capella if he signs his qualifying offer and opts for a bigger max deal next summer as a ufa. Thunder would so rather give up picks than waive Melo for 30M cash (which triggers 100M in luxury tax savings) to not play for them.


Nope. Not gonna happen. My trade is 100x better! Lol. Your on drugs if you think Kings get 4 picks for absorbing Ryan Anderson contract.


Lol it cost Rockets one first rounder to unload Jeremy Lin to a rebuilding lakers. Lin was an expiring contract and made half the salary of Anderson and was more productive. Comparable salary dumps of multi-year contracts have involved multiple picks like when Warriors unloaded Bierdrens and Jefferson to Jazz to sign Igoudala, when Denver dumped Javale to Philly or when Kings dumped Nik stauskas, Jason Thompson and Carl Landry to Philly. Maybe Kings get three picks but whatever team acquires Ryan Anderson will expect more than a first round pick to eat his contract.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#33 » by Lava Rock Kid » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:32 pm

Rockets should do a sign and trade, Clint Capela for Carmelo
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#34 » by Mwd1981 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:41 am

Lava Rock Kid wrote:Rockets should do a sign and trade, Clint Capela for Carmelo


Put down the crack pipe
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Re: Carmelo Anthony Granted Permission To Meet With Rockets, Heat 

Post#35 » by cheese318 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:34 am

Sam195 wrote:I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.



I like the premises but I think the Kings got
Something percolating and having Ryan Anderson locked into $20m for 19-20 is the big issue. I know an expiring contract is very lucrative but I would not do it unless I’m getting 2021 picks like you stated above and at no point if not conveyed they do not roll over to 2nd rounders it becomes fully unprotected. I don’t think Houston would do that nor Oklahoma. We will see but it does make more sense with the draft picks in play coming to SAC.


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Post#36 » by cheese318 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:37 am

Mwd1981 wrote:
Sam195 wrote:I think there is going to be a 3 team trade that goes down between Rockets, Thunder and Kings. It will look something like this;

Rockets acquire
- Carmelo Anthony

Thunder acquire
- Garett Temple

Sacramento Kings acquire
- Ryan Anderson
- a protected first and second round pick from Rockets
- a protected first and second round pick from Thunder

- Rockets give up picks because they get out of final year of Anderson's contract for 19-20 season. Trading for Melo in a transaction that unloads Anderson nearly costs the same as signing Melo after a buyout (at the 5.3M midlevel) with Anderson's 20M+ salary still on the books.

- Thunder give up picks for cutting 20M in salary and corresponding luxury tax while acquiring a decent role player in Temple to shore up their bench

- Kings spend the cap room they otherwise would have spent if Chicago didn't match Zach Lavine's offer sheet to acquire a Sacramento native and veteran shooter in Ryan Anderson along with 4 draft picks potentially two first rounders in 2021 the first draft expected to occur after nba abolishes the one and done rule.


Who says no? I think Rockets, Thunder and Carmelo say no. Rockets don’t need to give up assets to get Carmelo, he apparently wants to be there, and Anderson fits even though he’s overpaid. Funny Capela and Paul haven’t yet been signed giving Houston full MLE to sign Melo.

Thunder aren’t giving up picks. They need low cost players around their big 3.

Carmelo is getting all his money anyway so he isn’t agreeing to a deal where his destination gives up assets.


Have you been watching Melo throughout his career? He never has cared when his acquiring team gives up any and all assets. He ruined the NYK forcing a trade prior to free agency when we could sign him outright. If he never did that Chris Paul would have been a Knick. Melo is all about the Money. I’m surprised Lakers have not been mentioned once when they still have about 5m left


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