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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#341 » by Ruzious » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:43 pm

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Jay81 wrote:if they cost the exact same...would you take Dwight or Hassan?


Dwight. I feel like he's got something to prove. Whiteside has talent and athleticism but I feel like he is lacking in the awareness department and doesn't work on his game hard enough.

Dwight is also a plus defender. He may not be an elite defender like he was back in Orlando, but he's still above average. Spoelstra can't even keep Whiteside on the floor when it matters.

And Dwight's a better screen setter - which is one of the things that the Wiz depended on Gortat for. Whiteside's contract situation is going to get ugly the next 2 seasons. He can opt out in 2019, but why would he - when he can take $27 million at age 30/31? Big ouch for Miami.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#342 » by nate33 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:01 pm

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Funny.

But it's worth noting that the video shows only 8 shot attempts (he was 1 for 8) and it was dated November 12th. Assuming it covered the games through November 10th, then Howard took a grand total of 8 jumpers in 12 games playing 362 minutes. And he's actually a 33% shooter from outside of 10 feet. While certainly that's not good, it's not wildly detrimental given the few number of attempts he is taking.

If only John Wall would show such restraint.
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Post#343 » by WizarDynasty » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:22 pm

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What i hate or dislike the most is that he can't raise is elbow above his shoulders and actually straighten his arm. I bet if you as him to held his elbow above after shooting a jump shot, he wouldn't be able to do it. My problem is that, Dwight should know that he has a handicapped shoulders, why complain, why complain about offensive touches when you now you have permanently damaged shoulders from lifting weights.
I assume he experiences serious pain whenever he attempts to extend his directly above his head. \
It sad though, this guy can not raise his elbow above his shoulder and perform any fine motor movements. So much potential wasted. He had the chance to be one of the best centers, but ruined his shoulders lifting to much weight.
He didn't realize that being able to manipulate the weight of a basetball...above your head is what transforms you from a grunt banging bodies and shoveling rocks, versus highly skilled swordsman. The basketball is your sword. If you can't manipulate the ball finely above your head...meaning the ability to keep your elbow above your head on a jump shot, it basically means you can hold a sword but never swing a sword.
dwight wants to be a master swordsman but you lack the ability to even lift the sword above your head which is fundamental. How can ever expect to win a battle without being able to lift a sword over your head. Dwight can't raise his elbow above his head with the basketball....is basically the same issue. Yet he wants to be treated like a master swordsman.

You clearly have alot of work to do with your shoulders and releasing the ball before you can even expect to have a significant offensive role on a championship caliber team.
the exercise I expect to see, is for him to take a 2 lb weight--(basketball is only 22 ounces less than 2 pounds), hold his elbow up to ear, and without ever dropping his elbow from his year, do 200 reps with a 2 pound weight because to me he can't straighten out his deltoid shoulder muscle and and tricep. Howard's problem is he can't control both is deltoid and tricep once his elbow is raised above his head. He has zero coordination, but this should not be case since Howard's body type is actually built for speed and fine motor coordination. Now if you had Shaq's dense bone structure, he would get a pass. Dwight has bird like bone structure built for speed and coordination so --Dwight's Problems are all inside his head.

https://youtu.be/jTQWYdWLvys?t=59

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Obviously the guy in the video isn't pretending to point his elbow at the rim which is what Howard should do when he does this exercise. So again, howard needs to use very light weights 2 pounds and use very high repetition like 300 to gain the touch he needs.
he should do these exercise iike in the video but pretend that he is shooting over an outstretched hand trying to block his shot.

Yes do this with your left arm. So 2 lb weight, 300 times pretending you are shooting over a defender....preferable move your feet as if you are driving with your left and do this exercise. I think Dwight Howard's problem's would be solved. Just takes a little creativity and desire.

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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#344 » by DCZards » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:50 pm

NatP4 wrote:That was a very strange video


Strange. Why do you say that? Seems to me that Howard was simply doing what he needs to do to stay in great shape...which he certainly appears to be.
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Post#345 » by closg00 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:02 pm

Go to the Dwight Howard segment at 7:46 and wait for it :lol:
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#346 » by amcoolio » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:29 pm

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Dwight. I feel like he's got something to prove. Whiteside has talent and athleticism but I feel like he is lacking in the awareness department and doesn't work on his game hard enough.

Dwight is also a plus defender. He may not be an elite defender like he was back in Orlando, but he's still above average. Spoelstra can't even keep Whiteside on the floor when it matters.

And Dwight's a better screen setter - which is one of the things that the Wiz depended on Gortat for. Whiteside's contract situation is going to get ugly the next 2 seasons. He can opt out in 2019, but why would he - when he can take $27 million at age 30/31? Big ouch for Miami.


Dwight was horrible for Charlotte in setting screens, so bad they had to start playing Frank at PF to set screens and initiate the offense

Dwight cannot get it in his head that he would be a good rim running pick and roll player. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to go to the block and post up. He feels insulted if asked to run the pick and roll

I don't know how your coach is going to control him...but I would have pushed hard for a 1 year deal. In a contract year he might be better...2 year deal, its gonna be tough to get him motivated
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#347 » by Ruzious » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:49 pm

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nate33 wrote:Dwight is also a plus defender. He may not be an elite defender like he was back in Orlando, but he's still above average. Spoelstra can't even keep Whiteside on the floor when it matters.

And Dwight's a better screen setter - which is one of the things that the Wiz depended on Gortat for. Whiteside's contract situation is going to get ugly the next 2 seasons. He can opt out in 2019, but why would he - when he can take $27 million at age 30/31? Big ouch for Miami.


Dwight was horrible for Charlotte in setting screens, so bad they had to start playing Frank at PF to set screens and initiate the offense

Dwight cannot get it in his head that he would be a good rim running pick and roll player. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to go to the block and post up. He feels insulted if asked to run the pick and roll

I don't know how your coach is going to control him...but I would have pushed hard for a 1 year deal. In a contract year he might be better...2 year deal, its gonna be tough to get him motivated

Well, I can only go by the stats on picks, and he was right up there with Gortat among the NBA leaders in screen assists. I believe he was 6th in the NBA last season. Sometimes perception doesn't equal reality.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#348 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 pm

Ruzious wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:And Dwight's a better screen setter - which is one of the things that the Wiz depended on Gortat for. Whiteside's contract situation is going to get ugly the next 2 seasons. He can opt out in 2019, but why would he - when he can take $27 million at age 30/31? Big ouch for Miami.


Dwight was horrible for Charlotte in setting screens, so bad they had to start playing Frank at PF to set screens and initiate the offense

Dwight cannot get it in his head that he would be a good rim running pick and roll player. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to go to the block and post up. He feels insulted if asked to run the pick and roll

I don't know how your coach is going to control him...but I would have pushed hard for a 1 year deal. In a contract year he might be better...2 year deal, its gonna be tough to get him motivated

Well, I can only go by the stats on picks, and he was right up there with Gortat among the NBA leaders in screen assists. I believe he was 6th in the NBA last season. Sometimes perception doesn't equal reality.

I could see how the CHA fan would form that perception, because Dwight doesn’t set as many screens as Cody Zeller (that’s pretty much all he does in their offense). In the previous season Zeller was 3rd in screen assists behind Gortat and Gobert.

But Dwight in his own right has been top 10 in screen assists in each of the past two seasons, on two different teams.

https://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=SCREEN_ASSISTS&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

He may not set as many screens as you’d like to see from him, but Howard does have the track record of being an effective screener.
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Post#349 » by HornetJail » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:22 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
amcoolio wrote:
Dwight was horrible for Charlotte in setting screens, so bad they had to start playing Frank at PF to set screens and initiate the offense

Dwight cannot get it in his head that he would be a good rim running pick and roll player. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to go to the block and post up. He feels insulted if asked to run the pick and roll

I don't know how your coach is going to control him...but I would have pushed hard for a 1 year deal. In a contract year he might be better...2 year deal, its gonna be tough to get him motivated

Well, I can only go by the stats on picks, and he was right up there with Gortat among the NBA leaders in screen assists. I believe he was 6th in the NBA last season. Sometimes perception doesn't equal reality.

I could see how the CHA fan would form that perception, because Dwight doesn’t set as many screens as Cody Zeller (that’s pretty much all he does in their offense). In the previous season Zeller was 3rd in screen assists behind Gortat and Gobert.

But Dwight in his own right has been top 10 in screen assists in each of the past two seasons, on two different teams.

https://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/?sort=SCREEN_ASSISTS&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

He may not set as many screens as you’d like to see from him, but Howard does have the track record of being an effective screener.

Oh his screens are effective alright, but there aren't nearly enough of them. Our normal offense typically has the center up top screening shooters quite often. As you said, Zeller is a screening maniac and that's what we have to compare Dwight to. I'd love a stat that shows the actual number of screens set. Dwight is probably fairly low down on that list.

Looking at screen assists on a per-minute basis, Dwight is down at 45th in the league, well below Mahinmi at 4.9 screen assists per 36minutes. There is no reason Dwight shouldn't be top 10, his ability to run pick and roll is likely his best offensive attribute but he just doesn't... it's bewildering.

For reference Zeller was 4th in the league in screen assists per 36 (7.4), and the top 3 were all guys who played very limited minutes. Gortat was in the top 15 with 6.3.

You'll find with a lot of things, Dwight's stats look good, but they could definitely be much better. He could be an all-star if he really wanted it. But he doesn't, and chooses to loaf around and do enough to not be a liability.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#350 » by NatP4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:02 am

amcoolio wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
nate33 wrote:Dwight is also a plus defender. He may not be an elite defender like he was back in Orlando, but he's still above average. Spoelstra can't even keep Whiteside on the floor when it matters.

And Dwight's a better screen setter - which is one of the things that the Wiz depended on Gortat for. Whiteside's contract situation is going to get ugly the next 2 seasons. He can opt out in 2019, but why would he - when he can take $27 million at age 30/31? Big ouch for Miami.


Dwight was horrible for Charlotte in setting screens, so bad they had to start playing Frank at PF to set screens and initiate the offense

Dwight cannot get it in his head that he would be a good rim running pick and roll player. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to go to the block and post up. He feels insulted if asked to run the pick and roll

I don't know how your coach is going to control him...but I would have pushed hard for a 1 year deal. In a contract year he might be better...2 year deal, its gonna be tough to get him motivated



haha, our coach is Scott Brooks....we don't even run plays. He literally screams at our ball handlers, in the middle of a possession, to throw the ball to Keef Morris for a post up, It's hilarious.

good news for Dwight, we don't even run pick and roll, we run the classic "Wall picks up his dribble at the top of the key and watches as Otto and Brad run in circles around each other and eventually pop out to opposite wings, the ball is ALWAYS then passed to Beal to initiate a horrendously mechanical ISO possession. Dwight can easily sabotage the entire play by just waiting for Beal to get the ball and then posting up on that side. It's going to be fun.
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Post#351 » by deneem4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:34 am

I think we’re going to get the Atlanta Dwight...
And he was monster across the board
Charlotte was a disfuctioned team last year...
We surround Dwight with shooters and the ability to play a tough defense we going to be great...
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Post#352 » by trast66 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:12 am

Wizardspride wrote:


He may no longer be good at basketball, but the man is a genetic freak. Remember when he was 18 and just drafted he looked more developed than anyone in the NBA. He could sit on his couch eating pizza and ice cream for 3 years and still look like Hercules. I hate him.
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Post#353 » by deneem4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:54 am

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Wizardspride wrote:


He may no longer be good at basketball, but the man is a genetic freak. Remember when he was 18 and just drafted he looked more developed than anyone in the NBA. He could sit on his couch eating pizza and ice cream for 3 years and still look like Hercules. I hate him.


How is he not good at basketball anymore???
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Post#354 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:57 am

closg00 wrote:Go to the Dwight Howard segment at 7:46 and wait for it :lol:


You really have to wonder. There are a lot of eccentric personalities in the NBA who everyone pretty much puts up with.

Getting called out in a houses of the stars video. Is this dude a psycho?
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Post#355 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:27 am

Literally all we need him to do is rebound, dunk, and defend the interior/block shots, all of which he does MUCH better than Gortat. I'm so tired of watching the opposition take it straight down the lane for uncontested layups or dunks. I mean especially rebounding and dunking he's pretty unstoppable, and that's what we need.

We have him surrounded by shooters. We got Wall bringing it down, with his speed with an open lane he takes it to the hoop, if not he kicks it left to Beal for open 3, or right baseline to Otto for open 3, or to Howard under the basket for a dunk. I mean it's going to be tough to stop. We can use Morris to set picks, pick and pop with him for open looks from top of the key which he can hit. And how great when we miss the 3 to have someone who can get that board and throw it down or kick it out for another 3 attempt.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I like it, I really think Howard can be the missing ingredient this team has been lacking.
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Post#356 » by 80sballboy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:53 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Literally all we need him to do is rebound, dunk, and defend the interior/block shots, all of which he does MUCH better than Gortat. I'm so tired of watching the opposition take it straight down the lane for uncontested layups or dunks. I mean especially rebounding and dunking he's pretty unstoppable, and that's what we need.

We have him surrounded by shooters. We got Wall bringing it down, with his speed with an open lane he takes it to the hoop, if not he kicks it left to Beal for open 3, or right baseline to Otto for open 3, or to Howard under the basket for a dunk. I mean it's going to be tough to stop. We can use Morris to set picks, pick and pop with him for open looks from top of the key which he can hit. And how great when we miss the 3 to have someone who can get that board and throw it down or kick it out for another 3 attempt.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I like it, I really think Howard can be the missing ingredient this team has been lacking.


I think we all know what what we need from him. But does he go for the numbers again because he wants probably one more big deal? He can probably get 16 and 12 by just getting offensive rebounds, dunks off PNR and occasional post ups. His ego is just so huge, will he accept being the fourth option?
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Post#357 » by NatP4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:06 am

Nah, he could legitimately average 20 points just from setting picks and rolling and finishing and getting offensive rebounds, he just chooses to be bad at post ups and chuck awful jumpshots.

Capela has no offensive skills outside of finishing lobs and rebound putbacks, he’s averaged almost 20 for two years in a row now.
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Post#358 » by dangermouse » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:05 am

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:

Funny.

But it's worth noting that the video shows only 8 shot attempts (he was 1 for 8) and it was dated November 12th. Assuming it covered the games through November 10th, then Howard took a grand total of 8 jumpers in 12 games playing 362 minutes. And he's actually a 33% shooter from outside of 10 feet. While certainly that's not good, it's not wildly detrimental given the few number of attempts he is taking.

If only John Wall would show such restraint.


Are there any tools available for a bloke to filter how many shots he took from mid-range/long-range last year, and then filter out the ones which were taken with less that 5 seconds on the shot clock.

Also that John Wall shot was GOLD haha
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Post#359 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:25 pm

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haha, our coach is Scott Brooks....we don't even run plays. He literally screams at our ball handlers, in the middle of a possession, to throw the ball to Keef Morris for a post up, It's hilarious.

good news for Dwight, we don't even run pick and roll, we run the classic "Wall picks up his dribble at the top of the key and watches as Otto and Brad run in circles around each other and eventually pop out to opposite wings, the ball is ALWAYS then passed to Beal to initiate a horrendously mechanical ISO possession. Dwight can easily sabotage the entire play by just waiting for Beal to get the ball and then posting up on that side. It's going to be fun.


:( Yup, that is our so-called offense, we didn't need to Max Otto with this kind of offense
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Post#360 » by brigadierjerry » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:31 pm

Knicks fan that comes in peace. Which wizards team do you feel had the best chance to advance to the conference finals? Also do you feel the wizards issue is more a coaching problem or a personnel problem? How would you rank the wizards as far as teams in the eastern conference?

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