Props to Magic Jeanie and Rob

[Michael Lucky]

Dont care for the dog and pony show. True our previous front office might have screwed it up in the end, but let's not act like Lebron was swayed by Magic. He made his mind up over a year ago.

[Danny Darko]

The LeBron piece is great but Ryan west and Jesse buss have been amazing and Rob has been great with his captology

[Edrees]

Pretty incredible outcome considering the wretched Deng, Mozgov, and Clarkson contracts. Imagine the outcome had they never happened to begin with.

Clarkson contract wasn't that bad if someone gave us a pick in the process of taking back that contract, even if we had to give up a decent player to do it.

[Kilroy]

Dont care for the dog and pony show. True our previous front office might have screwed it up in the end, but let's not act like Lebron was swayed by Magic. He made his mind up over a year ago.

Me too... As it sits this isn't a championship roster... And Magic, Pelinka and Jeannie did nothing but complain about not winning championships when they took over...

In my opinion, Jeannie backed Mitch and Jim into making the Deng/Mozgov deals... And she's now taking CREDIT for the Kobe contracts that so many people trashed Mitch and Jim for...

Hollywood baby...

Props to Magic for being LeBron's childhood idol... A paranoid person might start to think Magic was put in charge just to seal that deal...

Anyway, I'm really happy we got LeBron... But I really don't want to hear about it anymore from the FO... I want to hear about how they're going to give him what he needs to scare GSW...

[LAKESHOW]

Like magics moves or not, it must be said, that he started from way back, held down, and handicapped with the mozgov and deng contracts. He didnt start with a clean slate. But got into the race, with the starting line pushed waay far back. Dengs conttact is still a huge topic of discussion today, and he is left cleaning up the mess left behind.

[kblo247]

Dont care for the dog and pony show. True our previous front office might have screwed it up in the end, but let's not act like Lebron was swayed by Magic. He made his mind up over a year ago.

Me too... As it sits this isn't a championship roster... And Magic, Pelinka and Jeannie did nothing but complain about not winning championships when they took over...

In my opinion, Jeannie backed Mitch and Jim into making the Deng/Mozgov deals... And she's now taking CREDIT for the Kobe contracts that so many people trashed Mitch and Jim for...

Hollywood baby...

Props to Magic for being LeBron's childhood idol... A paranoid person might start to think Magic was put in charge just to seal that deal...

Anyway, I'm really happy we got LeBron... But I really don't want to hear about it anymore from the FO... I want to hear about how they're going to give him what he needs to scare GSW...

The Kobe contract didn't kill LA.

We still had the money to sign MElo and Pau, but Mitch and Jim alienated the **** out of Pau. Pau was out the door. When they sat with Melo they by Melo's admission and as SAS has said could not answer basketball questions. Mitch and Jim had no plan to talk to Melo and detail hey here is how we are going to use you and we can get you A, B, C even if Pau walks. They told Lowry wait on them to call him back and he went on to be a all star yearly. They didn't take a meeting with Thomas who blew up and went on to be a MVP candidate. Jim and Mitch gameplan was to pay Lin 17 mil a year and then claim Boozer in the amnesty auction, while playing Swaggy P to play for Byron Scott who alienated them on? Come the **** on.

The next year with the Kobe deal we still had max money and exemptions to use, we had a number 2 pick in an okay, non transcendent draft to trade to teams as well. We picked Russell who never improved, had injury issues, and chemistry problems.We gave Clarkson 50mil. We went to meet with Lamarcus Aldridge and did not have an basketball plan to speak of again to the point his own agent and people called the front office out in Mitch/Jim for being **** stupid for asking for the meeting and gave them a pity do over. They then immediately traded for Hibbert on 16mil a year deal.

The fact is Mitch and Jim had the cap space to do what Magic did, but they did not do a damn thing with it. They could not talk basketball with Melo. They couldn't talk ball with Aldridge. They gave out horrible contracts to Clarkson, Deng, and Mozgov. They missed in the draft with Russell. They missed on coaches with Dantoni and Scott. Hell they **** Brown by firing his assistant staff from the year before that got the team home court to institute the Princeton a year later with their own staff after turning down **** Adleman. Mitch and Jim made terrible deals, hires, and they were terrible at talking to people and building relationships.

Mitch and Jim traded PAu without a call and then it was rescinded. They dealt LO and he found out on the radio. They traded Fisher without even a call or heads up. They pink slipped Phil's whole staff before game 1 versus Dallas. They also spent Shaw's whole interview trashing Phil. The fact is they never drew anyone there without the lure of Phil/Kobe (Artest came, same with Payton and Malone) to win with the mle and Mitch was known for bad deals. Steve Blake a bad deal. Sasha a bad deal where he bid versus himself. Luke a bad deal he made at midnight before anyone else made an offer for 6 years. Rad a bad deal which they could have voided but didn't. Cook a bad deal. Kwame for Caron, a stupid ass deal he got saved for when Memphis offered him Pau. Traded Shaq away but took the worst deal back in Brian Grant which we had to amnesty and didn't get Wade. Let Fish walk in 04 but gave Vlade the MLE for 2 years and then McKie the next year. Didn't retain Horace Grant and Lue for the 01 team thus wearing Kobe/Shaq/Horry/Fox/Hish out all year, but boy he managed to bid versus himself with George for the full mle and max years (which he barely played).

MAgic and Pelinka got the team with their stupid ass deals in Mozgov, Deng, and Clarkson. They got rid of two of them. They got the team with their bad draft picks who were not elite or great and had not made true leaps into being elite with Russell and Randle, and got rid of them because all they did was get numbers, not even big numbers mind you, and lose a lot of games. They got Lonzo, Kuzma, and Hart in here. And they signed LeBron James who was the best player in the league. They were actually able to sit and talk ball with him, who knew that was important? Magic was there a hour early to make a pitch and prepared, who knew that mattered (Melo/Aldridge)? They signed actual vets who are proven and have championship experience in Rondo and McGee who make less combined than Lin or Hibbert. They still retained space to get another guy by trade or free agency the next year while making the playoffs this year. They also aren't undermining Luke by adding people to his staff like they did Eddie Jordan, BErnie Bickerstaff, Snyder, Rambis, and so on to Dantoni or Mike Brown because they feel like it which Mitch and Jim did in the past.

Magic and Jim with JEanie have done a better job than Mitch and Jim did without Jerry Buss and Jerry West holding their hand. Hell Mitch should have got flack for wasting Kobe's prime and depleting that 3 peat team back then after West left because he never helped make the job of Kobe/Shaq easier at all and Jim was too obsessed with Phil care about competing. It literally took Kobe screaming trade me for Jerry Buss to come back in and come to Kobe and then start spending money and giving Kobe/Phil support to win during Kobe's prime years where Mitch/Jim gave him Smush/Kwame/Chucky/Mckie/Shammon/Jumaine/ etc and was shocked when they got called out but couldn't do anything about with that No Trade Clause and Phil going on the radio saying he supported Kobe. They then won with Phil/Kobe and tried to push Phil out as JErry aged, got sick, and passed away but looked stupid in the process and made the team irrelevant.

Give Magic, Jeanie, and Pelinka their props ... They did what they should have done, got the job done which was secure the big fish much like how Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Kobe, and so on were before LEBron.

[Kilroy]

I honestly can't read all that... Jeannie and Magic set Championships (Multiple) as the goal when they took the job... They fired a guy with 30 years and multiple championships under his belt to do it...
I think it's right for us to hold them to it...

And IMO getting LeBron doesn't relieve the pressure... It ratchet's it up at least 10 fold... Now you have the best player in the league, in his prime, surrounded by basically scrubs...

Better do something BIG, fast, our it will all be for nothing... Rondo and McGee scare the hell out of me...

But the only reason I'm typing all this right now, is as a counter-point to all the back slapping going on in the FO right now... It's getting a bit nauseating TBH...
I'm thrilled we got LeBron though. And I'm as big a Magic fan as anyone on this forum. I just don't like sales pitches.

[stan francisco]

Props for talking so much in general in the media about players who fanatically take care of their bodies, for making special clips about the new facility, and for all else you did to spread messages to attract James. Thanks for doing that in a very smart and subdued way.

[danfantastk32]

I honestly can't read all that... Jeannie and Magic set Championships (Multiple) as the goal when they took the job... They fired a guy with 30 years and multiple championships under his belt to do it...
I think it's right for us to hold them to it...

Ok....but are you going to give Magic and Rob the time Mitch got? Mitch became assistant GM under J-West from 87 to 2000, when he became the GM. It wasn't until 2009 that you could say "his team" hoisted a title. If you wanna give him credit for the Shaq/Kobe team, thats fine....maybe he did play a significant role. That would still be 13 years into his job.

But what's the end-game in the tit-for-tat over Magic/Rob vs Jim/Mitch? It's not that Jim/Mitch didn't produce a title the last 4-5 years....it was the fact that they were reeling in circles, had no new ideas, were not up to par/speed with the new NBA, and the team was circling the toilet.

If it takes Magic and Rob five, six, even ten years to produce a title, it is what it is. Plenty of good GM's never won a title during the Jordan years. But were you in the picture? Were you knocking at the door? Or did you spend 5 years chasing your tail?

You can hold Magic to whatever standard you want. Really none of us matter in this decision. But the idea that Magic/Rob have some sort of small window to produce multiple titles is not a standard anyone else has been held to. It took Mitch either 13 years, or 9. Whatever way you wanna gauge it.

[Dloading99]

Unbiased Hater perfect name for you. cause you are being a hater. Dude read my posts. where did I say Lebron wouldn't sign with the Lakers if Thomas Bryant wasn't on the team? I've always said and said on here that Lebron James was signing with the Lakers and it was a done deal regauardless. I was the one who said he would sign here on the four year deal. I was the only one on here who said he would sign a four year deal. and not a one and one deal.


So dude I don't know what you're talking about. I said Lebron James would be and was intrigued by the Lakers players Lonzo Ball Brandon Ingram Kyle Kuzma and Thomas Bryant. he liked Thomas Bryant ability as a stretch big and athletic player. stretch bigs he's played with his whole career. so what are you talking about? When the Lakers drafted Wagner Thomas Bryant wasn't needed on the team and they brought in a veteran like I said they would at center Javelle Macgee so Magee is your rim protector and you have Wagner and Zubac you don't need Bryant and aren't going to carry four centers on your roster.

Magic did say Lebron was impressed with our roster and our players. and that he knew about every player and what they like to do and what they are good at. I did say in my posts. that Lebron would go over the roster and players what they like to do with Magic. didn't I say Lebron would say What's Lonzo like in Practice? what's Kuzma like in Practice. oh I heard Magic say Lebron said Kuzma likes to do this. Wow okay Unbiased hater really looks like you know the game. sure? great basketball guy.

I'm pretty good at this basketball thing.

As for Kblo Great post man. you nailed everything. you were insightful of the whole Lakers organization. and you made great points about Jeanie and Rob and Magic.

I look at it like this. Magic and Rob and Jeanie did a tremendous Job. Let's look at what they did. this is basketball gold. Magic and Rob come in and Jeanie as she is running basketball now. They have this horrible Mozgoff contract and Deng contract not movable.

Big Magic says I can get Lebron and I will get Lebron how do I do it. I gotta Move Mozgoof. Brooklyn what do you want? gives us Brandon Ingram? nope. Give us your number two pick Lonzo Ball nope. Okay give us Russell and we'll take Mozgoff. that's our number two pick you gotta give me something back okay. Number 26 first round. cool. they draft Kuzma and they get that contract off the team.

And you flip that and you basically Trade Timothey Mozgoff and Deangelo Russell for Kyle Kuzma and Lebron James that is genius. and gets you best executive in basketball. if you want to be real about it. they traded Jordan Clarkson Timofey Mozgoof and Deangelo Russell for Lebron James Kyle Kuzma Josh Hart and More cap which most likely will be Kawaii Leonard or Jimmy Butler so you acquire all that talent and basically get Moritz Wagner in that trade also.


So everybody gave Jerry West credit for getting Shaq and I did rightfully so. he's a genius and people gave him credit for Kevin Durant for Joining a team that just won 73 games. when Magic Johnson got Lebron James to join a team that Won 35 games. the best player in the world joins our team. that is Magic and that is Magic Johnson and that's why Magic Johnson is a genius he called his shot and he got it done. he's always been that way. he delivers he delivered in Game 7 he's brought this franchise Championships and he bought this franchise the best player in the NBA and maybe the best Laker.


Let's look at free agent signings and Be real about it. Shaq the best free agent. brought us three championships. made our franchise the best in sports after showtime and we sucked. Lebron did that and made us the most glorius best franchise in sports the marque franchise and now we are back to being the golden standard in basketball. Los Angeles is a destination again and Lebron did that by signing here and Magic did that by bringing him here. that's why this is so huge for this franchise.

But Like I said Lebron grew up idolizing Magic Johnson this is what he wants to play in front of his idol and practice in front of his idol. like Magic said We have our leader now.

And this is how it is in Basketball the Lakers always have the best basketball player in the NBA we always get him. Jerry West Elgin Baylor Kareem Abdul Jabar Magic Johnson Shaq Kobe Bryant Lebron James.

We can argue that the Lakers have the best starting Lineup in the NBA Pg Johnson Sg Kobe Bryant Sf Lebron James Pf Kareem C Shaq. that is basketball championship Royalty and that's why the king is in Lakers Purple and Gold.

[BasketballFan7]

Pretty incredible outcome considering the wretched Deng, Mozgov, and Clarkson contracts. Imagine the outcome had they never happened to begin with.

Clarkson contract wasn't that bad if someone gave us a pick in the process of taking back that contract, even if we had to give up a decent player to do it.

Clarkson is/was fool's gold. That contract is bad and the Lakers swindled the Cavs. That said, Clarkson's contract isn't an albatross like Deng's/mozgov's, that much I agree.

[Penberthy]

Remember when someone would complain how horrible the d'angelo russell trade was EVERY SINGLE DAY for an entire season?

[LAKESHOW]

Magic. Excuse me sir, could you pass me some salt for my popcorn?
Jerry West..Oh here you go, you can use mine.

[Edrees]

Pretty incredible outcome considering the wretched Deng, Mozgov, and Clarkson contracts. Imagine the outcome had they never happened to begin with.

Clarkson contract wasn't that bad if someone gave us a pick in the process of taking back that contract, even if we had to give up a decent player to do it.

Clarkson is/was fool's gold. That contract is bad and the Lakers swindled the Cavs. That said, Clarkson's contract isn't an albatross like Deng's/mozgov's, that much I agree.

well yeah, that's what i mean. It isn't a good contract but because it's a bit deceiving how bad he is, it didn't hurt us in the long run.

[Pointgod]

It's crazy that I don't see the enthusiasm for what Jeanie, Magic and Pelinka have done for this team. They just signed LeBron James and we are in a great position moving forward. We would be in an even better position if they didn't have to clean up the mess of Jim and Mitch.

[peanutbutter]

I definitely love what Jeannie, Magic and Pelinka has done.

There was a lot of pressure brought on by Laker haters for the Lakers to acquire Lebron.

When Magic made the Cleveland trade everyone got excited because of what it did for the Laker salary cap.

But until Lebron made it official, I think most Laker fans wanted to stay quiet and humble and not get the Laker hater fuel.

When PG partied on OKC with Westbrook and announced he is staying in OKC. That did not come too much of a surprise but it was enough for us Laker fans to stay quiet.

But now Lebron has committed to a long term max it will still take waiting for the All-Star break to see some real progress.

But mad props (a lot of proper respect) to Magic, Pelinka and Jeannie for the great job they did in turning the Lakers in thebright direction.

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