Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

Post #961 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:41 pm

stuporman wrote:Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willy

you might be missing a few >>>

Jose7 · Post #962 » by **Jose7** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:42 pm

Cant believe we got him on a first round pick deal...

Post #963 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:01 pm

Jose7 wrote:Cant believe we got him on a first round pick deal...

that there what we call mutual benefit. he gave us time to lock up key contracts before giving him his. and he gave himself some early financial security. i love it.

CharlesOakley · Post #964 » by **CharlesOakley** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:24 pm

If only we had a veteran center with great defensive understanding to teach him some of the nuances of the game...

stuporman · Post #965 » by **stuporman** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:09 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
stuporman wrote:Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willy

you might be missing a few >>>

Well, it's still just summer league.... :lol:

stuporman · Post #966 » by **stuporman** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:10 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:If only we had a veteran center with great defensive understanding to teach him some of the nuances of the game...

Well, Noah could fill that role if he gets his head right for the season.

Meat · Post #967 » by **Meat** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:20 pm

stuporman wrote:Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willy

come on, lets not be silly. willy is a dbl dlb machine with a flourishing 3pt shoot againt nba talent, mitch is doing ok in summerleague against guys that will be bagging groceries in a month.

stuporman · Post #968 » by **stuporman** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Meat wrote:
stuporman wrote:Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willy

come on, lets not be silly. willy is a dbl dlb machine with a flourishing 3pt shoot againt nba talent, mitch is doing ok in summerleague against guys that will be bagging groceries in a month.

I don't think you know what the word "flourishing" means..... Willy has made just 9 three pointers in two seasons in the NBA...... :lol:

Willy a third year player is what like 24 playing against 19 years olds in summer league? By the time Robinson is in his 3rd season in the NBA you'll be saying Willy who?

Post #969 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:19 pm

stuporman wrote:
Meat wrote:
stuporman wrote:Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willy

come on, lets not be silly. willy is a dbl dlb machine with a flourishing 3pt shoot againt nba talent, mitch is doing ok in summerleague against guys that will be bagging groceries in a month.

I don't think you know what the word "flourishing" means..... Willy has made just 9 three pointers in two seasons in the NBA......

Willy a third year player is what like 24 playing against 19 years olds in summer league? By the time Robinson is in his 3rd season in the NBA you'll be saying Willy who?

i don't think willy is trash. i think he's unfortunately not going to be anywhere near as useful as mitchell robinson stands to be.

unless a team is looking for another marc gasol prototype, there's a clear ceiling for willy. mitchell has high potential in the direction bigs are actually going.

Post #970 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:20 pm

and, man is willy a trash defender. i mean, at least marc gasol tries on that end sometimes.

stuporman · Post #971 » by **stuporman** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:38 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Meat wrote:come on, lets not be silly. willy is a dbl dlb machine with a flourishing 3pt shoot againt nba talent, mitch is doing ok in summerleague against guys that will be bagging groceries in a month.

I don't think you know what the word "flourishing" means..... Willy has made just 9 three pointers in two seasons in the NBA......

Willy a third year player is what like 24 playing against 19 years olds in summer league? By the time Robinson is in his 3rd season in the NBA you'll be saying Willy who?

i don't think willy is trash. i think he's unfortunately not going to be anywhere near as useful as mitchell robinson stands to be.

unless a team is looking for another marc gasol prototype, there's a clear ceiling for willy. mitchell has high potential in the direction bigs are actually going.

I didn't say and don't think that Willy is trash, but I don't think that he has the skill set that I want to see from a center in the modern NBA. Sure, he's expanding his range to 3 which will help keep spacing and he does get the occasional block but I want players that do both of those at a high level, not barely if at all.

Mitchell may not have the post game Willy does but he surely will be able to rebound at a similar rate. On the other hand his shot blocking ability is game changing, he moves well in space to defend and he does have range on his jumper even though he hasn't taken a single shot outside of the paint yet in SL.

Mitchell is the future of the big man in the NBA, Willy is the past, which he is good at but it is still a dying skill set so I agree with you.

boomann21 · Post #972 » by **boomann21** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:48 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:and, man is willy a trash defender. i mean, at least marc gasol tries on that end sometimes.

I was watching Willy with the Charlotte summer league team. I think he wants to help but his stiff limbs hamper his defensive play.

CharlesOakley · Post #973 » by **CharlesOakley** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:00 pm

It will be easier for Mitchell to develop a 3-point shot than for Willy to develop the defensive instincts that Michell has. Willy will be out of the league soon because he doesn't give effort. Even with the clear talent he has, his effort level makes him a bum.

CharlesOakley · Post #974 » by **CharlesOakley** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:03 pm

stuporman wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:If only we had a veteran center with great defensive understanding to teach him some of the nuances of the game...

Well, Noah could fill that role if he gets his head right for the season.

I think Noah could be really good for Mitchell. I'd like to start the season with him in uniform.

stuporman · Post #975 » by **stuporman** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:03 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:It will be easier for Mitchell to develop a 3-point shot than for Willy to develop the defensive instincts that Michell has. Willy will be out of the league soon because he doesn't give effort. Even with the clear talent he has, his effort level makes him a bum.

In his senior year in HS Mitch took more than 150 3 point attempts converting 38% of them so he's not that far off already.

Post #976 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:24 pm

stuporman wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
stuporman wrote:
I don't think you know what the word "flourishing" means..... Willy has made just 9 three pointers in two seasons in the NBA......

Willy a third year player is what like 24 playing against 19 years olds in summer league? By the time Robinson is in his 3rd season in the NBA you'll be saying Willy who?

i don't think willy is trash. i think he's unfortunately not going to be anywhere near as useful as mitchell robinson stands to be.

unless a team is looking for another marc gasol prototype, there's a clear ceiling for willy. mitchell has high potential in the direction bigs are actually going.

I didn't say and don't think that Willy is trash, but I don't think that he has the skill set that I want to see from a center in the modern NBA. Sure, he's expanding his range to 3 which will help keep spacing and he does get the occasional block but I want players that do both of those at a high level, not barely if at all.

Mitchell may not have the post game Willy does but he surely will be able to rebound at a similar rate. On the other hand his shot blocking ability is game changing, he moves well in space to defend and he does have range on his jumper even though he hasn't taken a single shot outside of the paint yet in SL.

Mitchell is the future of the big man in the NBA, Willy is the past, which he is good at but it is still a dying skill set so I agree with you.

sorry. i was not trying to insinuate that you think willy is trash. i was just saying as much for my own purposes.

Post #977 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:26 pm

boomann21 wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:and, man is willy a trash defender. i mean, at least marc gasol tries on that end sometimes.

I was watching Willy with the Charlotte summer league team. I think he wants to help but his stiff limbs hamper his defensive play.

he is really out-of-place on defense. he'd be better able to defend bigs who played the same back-to-the-basket game he does. but these nimbler bigs are a problem. and he's hopeless on switches and perimeter play. just free candy. kanter has similar limitations, but is a little lighter on his feet. probably better defensive potential, honestly.

awy · Post #978 » by **awy** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:29 pm

made some nice pnr defense reads. fast learner? :eyes:

didnt foul either while still blocking shots

Mecca · Post #979 » by **Mecca** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:35 pm

Meat wrote:
stuporman wrote:Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willy

come on, lets not be silly. willy is a dbl dlb machine with a flourishing 3pt shoot againt nba talent, mitch is doing ok in summerleague against guys that will be bagging groceries in a month.

This gotta be sarcasm

NYKnicksFTW · Post #980 » by **NYKnicksFTW** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:13 pm

I already have my #26 Giants jersey. I might need to add a #26 Knicks jersey...

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