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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#381 » by NatP4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:03 pm

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Post#383 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:22 pm

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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#384 » by deneem4 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:28 pm

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He may no longer be good at basketball, but the man is a genetic freak. Remember when he was 18 and just drafted he looked more developed than anyone in the NBA. He could sit on his couch eating pizza and ice cream for 3 years and still look like Hercules. I hate him.


How is he not good at basketball anymore???


Ask the Hornets, Hawks, and Rockets.


He was monster for the hawks..

he got injured with the rockets and he jus didnt fit with charlotte

Now he get to play with a true pg like wall...
I dont see how he sont have an allstar seasom in the east...
Dwight isnt liked by many but hes still a top tier center
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Post#385 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:18 pm

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I'm really curious to see how Dwight fits in on the defensive side. I don't have any stats on this but Wall's ability to stop dribble penetration has been one of the team's biggest problems. Last we saw a lof of: Wall goes for steal and guard blows by him. Defense collapses. Weak side is exposed. Gortat is put in a bad defensive situation. With Dwight roaming the paint this could go 2 ways. Either he gets fed up with Wall like Gortat did... Or our defensive efficiency greatly improves due to Dwights ability to protect the paint much better. IMO its on of the most intriguing things to watch for as the season unfolds.

I mean, we just watched a season in which John wasn't present for half of the games and Gortat had his worst defensive season. Marc has been slow on weakside D for years - that's not really tied to John , he simply slowed down with age .

I think criticisms of John's consistency on D are fair but he's not the structural issue with our D. The main struggle for the team is that Gortat didn't excel at any aspect of defense for a 5. He wasn't good at showing/switching on the perimeter, but also wasn't good at dropping back and protecting the rim either. Pretty much his only positive quality was 1v1 post defense where he could use his brute strength.

At least with Dwight, we know he's not gonna be mobile on the perimeter but the team can design a scheme where they can drop back and funnel players towards the rim. With Gortat it was a lose-lose proposition no matter how you used him.



This is so not true. Wall is constantly targeted by other teams in pick and roll action where he lazily reaches around for a steal and gets caught behind the play and makes no effort to get back into the play. He leaves Gortat to defend 1v2.

Gortat was a very solid defender in his time here, the numbers back it up. He was always very solid in defending the paint, he just wasn’t capable of switching and guarding guards, Howard isn’t either.

Everyone else on the team gives solid effort defensively, Wall gives James Harden level effort on that end and literally makes the team play 4 on 5.

I do agree, with Howard, you can atleast just drop him back and let him block shots and rebound outside of his own area (which Gortat couldn’t do)

The truth is that the problem wasn’t even as much about Wall/Gortat as it is Morris, who is horrendous at team defense and rebounding. Our small ball lineups with Otto at the 4 are dominant on the defensive end, posted top 10 defensive ratings back to back seasons. Switching 1-4 makes this team defense significantly better already.

Next season it will go something like this, I hope: Howard sits back in pick and roll defense, ball handlers are intimidated by his shot blocking presence, Otto playing the 4 rotates from the weak side all game to take away the roll, we are much more athletic with Oubre in the game, and are able to run out to shooters and recover from there.

Eliminate the real problem, Markieff Morris.
The real problem is a profoundly stupid head coach who does not understand that Oubre would be better at small forward and Otto Porter would be better at power forward with Markieff coming off the bench.

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Post#386 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:21 pm

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I just had him suspended.
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Post#387 » by LyricalRico » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:52 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The real problem is a profoundly stupid head coach...


Sounds like I need to bring back some of my old articles and just change "Eddie Jordan" to "Scott Brooks" lol.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#388 » by AFM » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:46 pm

First they came for hands11 and I did nothing...because I was not hands11
Then they came for BurtGummer and I did nothing...because I was not BurtGummer

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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#389 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:05 am

AFM wrote:First they came for hands11 and I did nothing...because I was not hands11
Then they came for BurtGummer and I did nothing...because I was not BurtGummer

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Post#390 » by AFM » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:03 am

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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#391 » by bledrules » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:11 am

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Since you love name calling so much, you wanna meet somewhere and discuss the rise and fall of Berlin?

You better get some help junior
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Post#392 » by papidulo » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:18 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:I mean, we just watched a season in which John wasn't present for half of the games and Gortat had his worst defensive season. Marc has been slow on weakside D for years - that's not really tied to John , he simply slowed down with age .

I think criticisms of John's consistency on D are fair but he's not the structural issue with our D. The main struggle for the team is that Gortat didn't excel at any aspect of defense for a 5. He wasn't good at showing/switching on the perimeter, but also wasn't good at dropping back and protecting the rim either. Pretty much his only positive quality was 1v1 post defense where he could use his brute strength.

At least with Dwight, we know he's not gonna be mobile on the perimeter but the team can design a scheme where they can drop back and funnel players towards the rim. With Gortat it was a lose-lose proposition no matter how you used him.



This is so not true. Wall is constantly targeted by other teams in pick and roll action where he lazily reaches around for a steal and gets caught behind the play and makes no effort to get back into the play. He leaves Gortat to defend 1v2.

Gortat was a very solid defender in his time here, the numbers back it up. He was always very solid in defending the paint, he just wasn’t capable of switching and guarding guards, Howard isn’t either.

Everyone else on the team gives solid effort defensively, Wall gives James Harden level effort on that end and literally makes the team play 4 on 5.

I do agree, with Howard, you can atleast just drop him back and let him block shots and rebound outside of his own area (which Gortat couldn’t do)

The truth is that the problem wasn’t even as much about Wall/Gortat as it is Morris, who is horrendous at team defense and rebounding. Our small ball lineups with Otto at the 4 are dominant on the defensive end, posted top 10 defensive ratings back to back seasons. Switching 1-4 makes this team defense significantly better already.

Next season it will go something like this, I hope: Howard sits back in pick and roll defense, ball handlers are intimidated by his shot blocking presence, Otto playing the 4 rotates from the weak side all game to take away the roll, we are much more athletic with Oubre in the game, and are able to run out to shooters and recover from there.

Eliminate the real problem, Markieff Morris.
The real problem is a profoundly stupid head coach who does not understand that Oubre would be better at small forward and Otto Porter would be better at power forward with Markieff coming off the bench.

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The issue was definitely Gortat defensively.

Wall wasn’t the most disciplined defender, but teams would run high pick and roll to death and cook Gortat all day bc he couldn’t even pretend to stay in front of a guard.

I wish WAS would have used their small ball lineup more with Morris at the 5, but since Wall missed half of the season anyways, we never got to see what couldve been.

Howard should be able to at least try and stay in front of guards on high screens in a way Gortat couldn’t
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Post#393 » by BigA » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:34 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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Since you love name calling so much, you wanna meet somewhere champ and try that with me?


I just had him suspended.
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Post#394 » by keynote » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:05 pm

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Since you love name calling so much, you wanna meet somewhere and discuss the rise and fall of Berlin?

You better get some help junior
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Post#395 » by NatP4 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:00 pm

papidulo wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
NatP4 wrote:

This is so not true. Wall is constantly targeted by other teams in pick and roll action where he lazily reaches around for a steal and gets caught behind the play and makes no effort to get back into the play. He leaves Gortat to defend 1v2.

Gortat was a very solid defender in his time here, the numbers back it up. He was always very solid in defending the paint, he just wasn’t capable of switching and guarding guards, Howard isn’t either.

Everyone else on the team gives solid effort defensively, Wall gives James Harden level effort on that end and literally makes the team play 4 on 5.

I do agree, with Howard, you can atleast just drop him back and let him block shots and rebound outside of his own area (which Gortat couldn’t do)

The truth is that the problem wasn’t even as much about Wall/Gortat as it is Morris, who is horrendous at team defense and rebounding. Our small ball lineups with Otto at the 4 are dominant on the defensive end, posted top 10 defensive ratings back to back seasons. Switching 1-4 makes this team defense significantly better already.

Next season it will go something like this, I hope: Howard sits back in pick and roll defense, ball handlers are intimidated by his shot blocking presence, Otto playing the 4 rotates from the weak side all game to take away the roll, we are much more athletic with Oubre in the game, and are able to run out to shooters and recover from there.

Eliminate the real problem, Markieff Morris.
The real problem is a profoundly stupid head coach who does not understand that Oubre would be better at small forward and Otto Porter would be better at power forward with Markieff coming off the bench.

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The issue was definitely Gortat defensively.

Wall wasn’t the most disciplined defender, but teams would run high pick and roll to death and cook Gortat all day bc he couldn’t even pretend to stay in front of a guard.

I wish WAS would have used their small ball lineup more with Morris at the 5, but since Wall missed half of the season anyways, we never got to see what couldve been.

Howard should be able to at least try and stay in front of guards on high screens in a way Gortat couldn’t



The Morris lineup had a negative rating on the season. Gortat was always a significantly better player than Morris
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Post#396 » by payitforward » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:01 pm

bledrules wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
BurtGummer wrote:* I warned you*

Since you love name calling so much, you wanna meet somewhere and discuss the rise and fall of Berlin?

You better get some help junior

Ok, cut it out! Put a pin in the balloon, Dat. You're one of the most valuable & respected posters here, & I count on you being part of these discussions.

I've had Gummer on ignore since forever, which is likely why I missed the run-up to this kerfluffle, but all the same it's hard for me to imagine letting anything he said get to me.

Gummer's gone now. Bledrules, if you're the same guy under another name, then you haven't learned that this kind of stuff gets you on a train out of town.
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Post#397 » by Dat2U » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:21 pm

payitforward wrote:
bledrules wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Since you love name calling so much, you wanna meet somewhere and discuss the rise and fall of Berlin?

You better get some help junior

Ok, cut it out! Put a pin in the balloon, Dat. You're one of the most valuable & respected posters here, & I count on you being part of these discussions.

I've had Gummer on ignore since forever, which is likely why I missed the run-up to this kerfluffle, but all the same it's hard for me to imagine letting anything he said get to me.

Gummer's gone now. Bledrules, if you're the same guy under another name, then you haven't learned that this kind of stuff gets you on a train out of town.


Ah it would have been good. I would have treated him to a drink and hashed out any issues. Then offered him a ride home to Ted's estate if needed it.
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Post#398 » by payitforward » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:41 pm

Dat2U wrote:
payitforward wrote:
bledrules wrote:You better get some help junior

Ok, cut it out! Put a pin in the balloon, Dat. You're one of the most valuable & respected posters here, & I count on you being part of these discussions.

I've had Gummer on ignore since forever, which is likely why I missed the run-up to this kerfluffle, but all the same it's hard for me to imagine letting anything he said get to me.

Gummer's gone now. Bledrules, if you're the same guy under another name, then you haven't learned that this kind of stuff gets you on a train out of town.

Ah it would have been good. I would have treated him to a drink and hashed out any issues. Then offered him a ride home to Ted's estate if needed it.

Fair enough. After all, that's what I've done for you more times than I can count!
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Post#399 » by 80sballboy » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:45 pm

More on Dwight from the WP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/07/13/wizards-new-center-dwight-howard-i-would-never-try-to-destroy-a-team/?utm_term=.fc62e0a1d454



Dwight Howard says he isn’t a bad teammate.
On Thursday, the same day the Wizards officially announced his signing, Dwight Howard said he’s bringing his “chocolate shoulders” to “Chocolate City” and urged fans not to believe everything they’ve heard about his reputation as a locker room cancer.

“My vibes is always good,” a shirtless Howard said during a half-hour Instagram Live session that consisted primarily of video of the 32-year-old center working out.

“I’ll address that any day. I ain’t no bad person. I ain’t never been no bad person in the locker room. All this stuff is just lies to try to justify why I was traded, or why I left the team. But anybody who knows me, who’s been around me, on and off the court, I ain’t never been no a–hole, I ain’t never been no mean person. I would never try to destroy a team, but that’s a narrative that they always tried to say to me because they couldn’t say nothing else. At one point they were saying I was a great teammate, that I smiled too much on the court. But I smiled my happy a– all the way to the Finals.”


Howard, who spent the first eight years of his career in Orlando, led the Magic to the NBA Finals in 2009. He spent one tumultuous season with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2012-13, during which he clashed with Kobe Bryant, before signing with the Rockets. Howard then spent three up-and-down seasons in Houston before bouncing to the Hawks and the Hornets over the last two years. After Charlotte traded Howard to the Nets in a draft-day deal last month, there were reports of chemistry issues between Howard and his teammates. SiriusXM NBA Radio analyst and former Wizards center Brendan Haywood reported the Charlotte locker room “hated” Howard. However, his coach with the Hornets, Steve Clifford, said of Howard, “If I thought that he would be a problem in the locker room, when Michael [Jordan] and I talked about it, we would have never brought him to Charlotte.”

[Dwight Howard’s best and worst qualities match the Wizards’. Buckle up.]

Meanwhile, John Wall, who had his issues with former Washington center Marcin Gortat, expressed optimism that Howard would help improve the Wizards.


“I think it’s great,” Wall told The Post’s Candace Buckner at a Summer League game in Las Vegas before Howard’s signing was official. “I think it’s an opportunity to see how it pans out, to have an athletic big and somebody who’s going to re-correct their career. I think it should be fun and exciting for us. Hopefully he comes in with a serious focus and mind-set [that] he wants to get better and help our team. We’re about to sit back and see what happens, but I think having him and Austin [Rivers] — giving us another scorer off the bench — those guys and Kelly [Oubre Jr.] getting better can definitely help us out.”

Speaking of Oubre, Howard, who has worn No. 12 for all but one year of his career, is apparently interested in his uniform number.

“Y’all gotta tell Kelly, man, I need that No. 12, or it’s going to be 21 or 8,” Howard said during his Instagram Live session. “I’m trying to get [Rivers’s] No. 1 man, but y’all ain’t help your boy out. Don’t give me no crazy numbers. It’s either 8, 21, or No. 1.”


Howard suggested that he’d ask Oubre about making some sort of deal for his No. 12. Otherwise, it sounds like he’ll settle for No. 21.

“Let’s go Wizards,” Howard said on Instagram, shimmying his shoulders. “D.C., Chocolate City, and chocolate shoulders will be in the building, baby,” Howard said. “Oooh, Chocolate City. Chocolate shoulders.”
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Post#400 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:08 pm

80sballboy wrote:More on Dwight from the WP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/07/13/wizards-new-center-dwight-howard-i-would-never-try-to-destroy-a-team/?utm_term=.fc62e0a1d454



Dwight Howard says he isn’t a bad teammate.
On Thursday, the same day the Wizards officially announced his signing, Dwight Howard said he’s bringing his “chocolate shoulders” to “Chocolate City” and urged fans not to believe everything they’ve heard about his reputation as a locker room cancer.

“My vibes is always good,” a shirtless Howard said during a half-hour Instagram Live session that consisted primarily of video of the 32-year-old center working out.

“I’ll address that any day. I ain’t no bad person. I ain’t never been no bad person in the locker room. All this stuff is just lies to try to justify why I was traded, or why I left the team. But anybody who knows me, who’s been around me, on and off the court, I ain’t never been no a–hole, I ain’t never been no mean person. I would never try to destroy a team, but that’s a narrative that they always tried to say to me because they couldn’t say nothing else. At one point they were saying I was a great teammate, that I smiled too much on the court. But I smiled my happy a– all the way to the Finals.”


Howard, who spent the first eight years of his career in Orlando, led the Magic to the NBA Finals in 2009. He spent one tumultuous season with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2012-13, during which he clashed with Kobe Bryant, before signing with the Rockets. Howard then spent three up-and-down seasons in Houston before bouncing to the Hawks and the Hornets over the last two years. After Charlotte traded Howard to the Nets in a draft-day deal last month, there were reports of chemistry issues between Howard and his teammates. SiriusXM NBA Radio analyst and former Wizards center Brendan Haywood reported the Charlotte locker room “hated” Howard. However, his coach with the Hornets, Steve Clifford, said of Howard, “If I thought that he would be a problem in the locker room, when Michael [Jordan] and I talked about it, we would have never brought him to Charlotte.”

[Dwight Howard’s best and worst qualities match the Wizards’. Buckle up.]

Meanwhile, John Wall, who had his issues with former Washington center Marcin Gortat, expressed optimism that Howard would help improve the Wizards.


“I think it’s great,” Wall told The Post’s Candace Buckner at a Summer League game in Las Vegas before Howard’s signing was official. “I think it’s an opportunity to see how it pans out, to have an athletic big and somebody who’s going to re-correct their career. I think it should be fun and exciting for us. Hopefully he comes in with a serious focus and mind-set [that] he wants to get better and help our team. We’re about to sit back and see what happens, but I think having him and Austin [Rivers] — giving us another scorer off the bench — those guys and Kelly [Oubre Jr.] getting better can definitely help us out.”

Speaking of Oubre, Howard, who has worn No. 12 for all but one year of his career, is apparently interested in his uniform number.

“Y’all gotta tell Kelly, man, I need that No. 12, or it’s going to be 21 or 8,” Howard said during his Instagram Live session. “I’m trying to get [Rivers’s] No. 1 man, but y’all ain’t help your boy out. Don’t give me no crazy numbers. It’s either 8, 21, or No. 1.”


Howard suggested that he’d ask Oubre about making some sort of deal for his No. 12. Otherwise, it sounds like he’ll settle for No. 21.

“Let’s go Wizards,” Howard said on Instagram, shimmying his shoulders. “D.C., Chocolate City, and chocolate shoulders will be in the building, baby,” Howard said. “Oooh, Chocolate City. Chocolate shoulders.”


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