Lonzo Ball Thread II

[Danny Darko]

[peanutbutter]

It is not fair to call me a Lonzo fanatic.

I am just calling it the way I see it.

I have never believed that Lebron would not play in LA because of Lavar.

Magic said it himself, Magic will ask Lebron for his input regarding major player decisions.

Magic also said that Lebron knew the current Laker roster better than he did during his 3 hour visit when free agency began.

If Lebron was not onboard with Lonzo then Lonzo would have been traded by now.

Isiah Thomas was let go and so was Randle. That should speak volumes about what Lebron thinks of those two.

Lonzo is still on the team and Magic makes an effort to include Lonzo's name when talking about the future of the young core.

Pelinka says the Lakers are committed to developing young players.

The writing is on the wall.

Lonzo is here to stay.

And next year there will be no pressure from the Front Office for Lonzo to lead this team and play hard every night.

If you hate on Lonzo and want him to fail then you will have hard time watching any game Lonzo plays in this year because he has no pressure to produce.

The bar has been lowered from Lavar's big baller trash talk to reasonable expectations for a top one and done lottery pick.

Joel Embid only played 31 games during his rookie season and Lonzo played 52.

Lonzo will not have any pressure this year except to improve his game and cover at least more than 52 games or approximately 2000 minutes of good defense and making open shots.

With Rondo and KCP, Lonzo will not have to play point guard but he can still start a fast break if he gets the opportunity.

Yeah there are a lot of Lonzo haters who have nothing bad to say about Lonzo.

But there are also a lot of Laker fans who feel that everything is going on schedule for Lonzo and his 5 year rookie contract and development.

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[Hank7]

Hope he's out there practicing his free throws.

[LakersSoul]

Hope he's out there practicing his free throws.

We know that he asked Magic for a weekly film session.
We also know that he was part of some major trade rumors which should light a fire under his azz.

With the signing of FA Rondo, we will see how Lonzo responds.
After a year of hard knocks, we shall see how Lonzo responds.

We know how he has been working out to get his body physically ready.
But will he also amp up other parts of his game like FTs and 3 point shooting?

Ingram was almost considered a bust after that first year by the non-Lakers fans
but he showed his passion, work ethics and potential by out doing himself in his second year.

Now, its Lonzo's turn and we will find out what he is made of.
This fall will show competitive he is and if he is truly worth a #2 pick.
Will he be one of the crowning jewels for the Lakers or a guy ready to be traded.

[Jstock12]

It is not fair to call me a Lonzo fanatic.

I am just calling it the way I see it.

I have never believed that Lebron would not play in LA because of Lavar.

Magic said it himself, Magic will ask Lebron for his input regarding major player decisions.

Magic also said that Lebron knew the current Laker roster better than he did during his 3 hour visit when free agency began.

If Lebron was not onboard with Lonzo then Lonzo would have been traded by now.

Isiah Thomas was let go and so was Randle. That should speak volumes about what Lebron thinks of those two.

Lonzo is still on the team and Magic makes an effort to include Lonzo's name when talking about the future of the young core.

Pelinka says the Lakers are committed to developing young players.

The writing is on the wall.

Lonzo is here to stay.

And next year there will be no pressure from the Front Office for Lonzo to lead this team and play hard every night.

If you hate on Lonzo and want him to fail then you will have hard time watching any game Lonzo plays in this year because he has no pressure to produce.

The bar has been lowered from Lavar's big baller trash talk to reasonable expectations for a top one and done lottery pick.

Joel Embid only played 31 games during his rookie season and Lonzo played 52.

Lonzo will not have any pressure this year except to improve his game and cover at least more than 52 games or approximately 2000 minutes of good defense and making open shots.

With Rondo and KCP, Lonzo will not have to play point guard but he can still start a fast break if he gets the opportunity.

Yeah there are a lot of Lonzo haters who have nothing bad to say about Lonzo.

But there are also a lot of Laker fans who feel that everything is going on schedule for Lonzo and his 5 year rookie contract and development.

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Cliff notes?

[Dr Aki]

The off court distractions get a bit tiring

Can't he release a video of him hitting 10 threes in a row or something?

[LakersSoul]

The off court distractions get a bit tiring

Can't he release a video of him hitting 10 threes in a row or something?

Yes please!!

Late night runs to the gym.
Early morning FT sessions.
1000 3s per day.

The distraction videos and LaVar act are getting too old.
Lonzo is a second year guy and I know his family makes money off the crazy
things that LaVar speaks but come on dude, keep it professional especially with LeBron in town.

[peanutbutter]

I am flattered that someone took the time to quote my comments but seriously...

Thank you to Jstock12 for the complement. (Try really hard not to read this)

Anyway,

If Lebron really did not want to play with Lonzo then why does Magic and Pelinka keep talking about him?



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[peanutbutter]

I have mixed feelings about Lavar.

I believe Lavar irrelevant especially when he talks.

But at the same time I don't like talking trash about him.

Talking bad about Lavar does not really accomplish anything.

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[Landsberger]

This whole knee injury issue is really concerning. Both for the injury itself but more so for the timing of it. It's not like torn meniscus heals...if it's detached it needs to be removed or it causes more damage, inflammation etc. Why wait until the middle of the offseason? Very curious for a guy who obviously needs a full and uninterrupted stretch of development. Even more curious when the team is making big changes.

I think Luke fired a shot across his bow with the PG competition statement. Let's hope he takes that seriously.

[brent_strong]

This whole knee injury issue is really concerning. Both for the injury itself but more so for the timing of it. It's not like torn meniscus heals...if it's detached it needs to be removed or it causes more damage, inflammation etc. Why wait until the middle of the offseason? Very curious for a guy who obviously needs a full and uninterrupted stretch of development. Even more curious when the team is making big changes.

I think Luke fired a shot across his bow with the PG competition statement. Let's hope he takes that seriously.

It's possible that he took ~8 weeks to rehab it and see if it healed and then decided to get surgery when it didn't

[BeanBurrito]

I have mixed feelings about peanutbutter.

I believe peanutbutter irrelevant especially when he talks.

But at the same time I don't like talking trash about him.

Talking bad about peanutbutter does not really accomplish anything.

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[Landsberger]

This whole knee injury issue is really concerning. Both for the injury itself but more so for the timing of it. It's not like torn meniscus heals...if it's detached it needs to be removed or it causes more damage, inflammation etc. Why wait until the middle of the offseason? Very curious for a guy who obviously needs a full and uninterrupted stretch of development. Even more curious when the team is making big changes.

I think Luke fired a shot across his bow with the PG competition statement. Let's hope he takes that seriously.

It's possible that he took ~8 weeks to rehab it and see if it healed and then decided to get surgery when it didn't

Torn meniscus doesn't heal.... I've got two bone on bone knees to prove it. It could have been misdiagnosed but that's a stretch knowing that he'd have very good physicians looking at it. Minor tears don't always need surgery however. If the meniscus is detached then it can cause pain and swelling off and on. Typically they go in with the scope and get this stuff done as soon as possible.... not 8 weeks later. The knee was bothering him long before the end of the season.

[brent_strong]

Sounds like it's possible to heal. But now that you mention it, I think I was thinking about surgical repair vs removal.

From: https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/meniscus-tears/

How your orthopaedic surgeon treats your tear will depend on the type of tear you have, its size, and location.

The outside one-third of the meniscus has a rich blood supply. A tear in this "red" zone may heal on its own, or can often be repaired with surgery. A longitudinal tear is an example of this kind of tear.

In contrast, the inner two-thirds of the meniscus lacks a blood supply. Without nutrients from blood, tears in this "white" zone cannot heal. These complex tears are often in thin, worn cartilage. Because the pieces cannot grow back together, tears in this zone are usually surgically trimmed away.

Along with the type of tear you have, your age, activity level, and any related injuries will factor into your treatment plan.

[Landsberger]

Sounds like it's possible to heal. But now that you mention it, I think I was thinking about surgical repair vs removal.

From: https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/meniscus-tears/

How your orthopaedic surgeon treats your tear will depend on the type of tear you have, its size, and location.

The outside one-third of the meniscus has a rich blood supply. A tear in this "red" zone may heal on its own, or can often be repaired with surgery. A longitudinal tear is an example of this kind of tear.

In contrast, the inner two-thirds of the meniscus lacks a blood supply. Without nutrients from blood, tears in this "white" zone cannot heal. These complex tears are often in thin, worn cartilage. Because the pieces cannot grow back together, tears in this zone are usually surgically trimmed away.

Along with the type of tear you have, your age, activity level, and any related injuries will factor into your treatment plan.

The tears you get in sports are typically next to the bone/knee cap or in this example the inner 2/3.

Interesting though that some can heal on their own. Never heard that from my orthopedist. Maybe because it was a deeper tear. Typically they trim the tear off so it doesn't float around and cause more issues. About the only way to really know the extent of the tear is by using an arthroscope is what I was told. I've had 2 "clean outs" in my left knee. Both were quick procedures and I was fully recovered in less than 6 weeks if memory serves. I've got two little glass flasks with the parts they took out and a DVD of the procedure.... didn't have to pay extra for it either.

[peanutbutter]

There is alot of over thinking going on about Lonzo's knee.

Dr. Jerry Buss when he bought the Lakers and drafted Magic the term sports medicine had not been invented.

The Lakers have the best doctors that basketball players playing for the Lakers can buy.

Also anyone who takes anything Lavar says seriously is naive.

It is a distraction.

I agree that Lavar is a troll but people who distract real basketball talk with Lavar troll talk are trolls.

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[peanutbutter]

I do not dislike Lavar.

I worked in Chino Hills for a little over a year.

There have always been fake Laker fans who joi. The bamdwagon and really know nothing about basketball and as we can see are not adding to the conversation and just trolling me for instance. Which is interesting.

However, Lonzo having arthroscopic surgery is nothing more that scoping the knee. That is it. They are just going to acces whatever damage there is.

But the fake Laker fans with their fake curiosity and the obvious want to see Lonzo fail will always exist.

And of course there is the trolls who have nothing relevant to talk about other than me. (It is fascinating that there are now two trolls more focused on me than talking about basketball) it is precious.



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[peanutbutter]

I have not been a member of this forum for long.

I have too many friends who love the Lakers and we see games.

This is a good forum because it has tapatalk as a mobile app which is comvenient but the trolls are coming out and trolls are boring and are probably not the Laker fans they pretend they are.

Lonzo is for real.

The people who have a history of predicting that Lonzo will be a bust are getting nervous now that Lebron has joined the Lakers.

If a fake Laker fan has been here for the last year talking about how Lonzo will be traded and yet Lonzo is still a Laker, it must be frustrating.

If Lonzo has a good year this year?

The Lonzo Ball haters (even if they say they are a Laker fan) are going to lose a lot of credibility and will lash out when hey...

...all I can say is...

I told ya so.

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[peanutbutter]

There are pretend Laker fans here who always wanted to see Lonzo fail.

I cannot wait to see their responses this upcomong year.

If you are waiting for Lonzo to fail...

Go ahead and hold your breath...

Bet your money on it for all I care.

Lonzo had a good year last year.

He should have a better year this year.

By the all star break if everyone stopped talking about his knee if I dont remind everyone about his knee now... someone else will.

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[peanutbutter]

Someone leaked the Lonzo tear.

The odds on favorite is Lavar so no one would want to trade for him.

It looks like Lebron has no issues with Lonzo despite Lavar.

If no one leaked the tear, we would not be talking about it here.

There are other forums for Laker fans.

Fyi: from my observations the participants in some of the other forums are not that overly concerned.

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