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Post#221 » by colaroaster » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:16 pm

if you think marcus has plateaued you might be right? another year of growth from rozier and others the celt's will have a stable core, as well they'll have financial flexibility to earmark the money for kyrie's contract or another blue chip. either way it's good business by celts mngt to play their cards vs. spending on emotion.
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Post#222 » by KumaJG » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:48 pm

Celtics have no flexibility lol
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Post#223 » by ermocrate » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:07 pm

The thing is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Dude hasn’t achieved nothing in his career, he should stop asking for something he hasn’t earned. I’m worried this douche is gonna ruin our season.
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Post#224 » by undertaker0 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:12 pm

ermocrate wrote:The thing is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Dude hasn’t achieved nothing in his career, he should stop asking for something he hasn’t earned. I’m worried this douche is gonna ruin our season.


He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal
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Post#225 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:16 pm

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ermocrate wrote:The thing is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Dude hasn’t achieved nothing in his career, he should stop asking for something he hasn’t earned. I’m worried this douche is gonna ruin our season.


He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal


Not really. Smart is in the very same department 10-11 mils. Danny ain't giving it cause he's attempting to not get the team into the tax payer list as long as he can.
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Post#226 » by undertaker0 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:17 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
undertaker0 wrote:
ermocrate wrote:The thing is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Dude hasn’t achieved nothing in his career, he should stop asking for something he hasn’t earned. I’m worried this douche is gonna ruin our season.


He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal


Not really. Smart is in the very same department 10-11 mils. Danny ain't giving it cause he's attempting to not get the team into the tax payer list as long as he can.


Smart very clearly deserves at least $1 mil/yr more than Exum. Like I said, Ainge isn't going to outbid himself. Smart will probably just sign the QO and hit FA next year.
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Post#227 » by ermocrate » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:22 pm

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ermocrate wrote:The thing is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Dude hasn’t achieved nothing in his career, he should stop asking for something he hasn’t earned. I’m worried this douche is gonna ruin our season.


He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal

He has to pick between the possibility to win a title and being overpaid, he was offered 12 and it was even too much, the only way he can earn more money is by going to a mediocre team and be a star there. Right now he has 5 players better than him on the team, 3 of witch are established all-stars, he can’t ask for more than 10/12, if he wants more he has to go away because an higher salary will hurt C’s future very much. The question is this, how much he is willing to ask a reasonable amount? He has to decide in a week tho because we don’t have time for this, we need to focus on winning championships. My suggestion would be make a 2y 18 million contract and bet on your ability to be a better player.
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Post#228 » by ermocrate » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:24 pm

undertaker0 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
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He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal


Not really. Smart is in the very same department 10-11 mils. Danny ain't giving it cause he's attempting to not get the team into the tax payer list as long as he can.


Smart very clearly deserves at least $1 mil/yr more than Exum. Like I said, Ainge isn't going to outbid himself. Smart will probably just sign the QO and hit FA next year.

Yeah, he deserve it, in Utah, not in Boston.
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Post#229 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:32 pm

ermocrate wrote:
undertaker0 wrote:
ermocrate wrote:The thing is getting more ridiculous by the minute. Dude hasn’t achieved nothing in his career, he should stop asking for something he hasn’t earned. I’m worried this douche is gonna ruin our season.


He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal

He has to pick between the possibility to win a title and being overpaid, he was offered 12 and it was even too much, the only way he can earn more money is by going to a mediocre team and be a star there. Right now he has 5 players better than him on the team, 3 of witch are established all-stars, he can’t ask for more than 10/12, if he wants more he has to go away because an higher salary will hurt C’s future very much. The question is this, how much he is willing to ask a reasonable amount? He has to decide in a week tho because we don’t have time for this, we need to focus on winning championships. My suggestion would be make a 2y 18 million contract and bet on your ability to be a better player.


The only way to earn big time money is for once in his career to shoot around .400 or over. If he does that he'll get the cash, if not ...
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Post#230 » by ermocrate » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:47 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
ermocrate wrote:
undertaker0 wrote:
He's really not asking for a lot though. If Dante Exum is getting $11 mil/yr, Smart is correct in asking for $13 mil/yr.

Celtics aren't going to outbid themselves but also want to sign him long term since next summer having all of Rozier, Smart, and Kyrie as FA's isn't ideal

He has to pick between the possibility to win a title and being overpaid, he was offered 12 and it was even too much, the only way he can earn more money is by going to a mediocre team and be a star there. Right now he has 5 players better than him on the team, 3 of witch are established all-stars, he can’t ask for more than 10/12, if he wants more he has to go away because an higher salary will hurt C’s future very much. The question is this, how much he is willing to ask a reasonable amount? He has to decide in a week tho because we don’t have time for this, we need to focus on winning championships. My suggestion would be make a 2y 18 million contract and bet on your ability to be a better player.


The only way to earn big time money is for once in his career to shoot around .400 or over. If he does that he'll get the cash, if not ...

He may get 15-16 from a desperate team right now but yeah for 18 and over he has to learn how to shoot.
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Post#231 » by klemen4 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:17 pm

For Smart signing let's say 2 year 20, million is still better than QO of 6 million because he would need to get 14 million first year salary in 2019 to get to 20 million for 18/19 and 19/20.

Deal will get done, it makes sense for both parties.
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Post#232 » by Bar Fight » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:20 pm

At this point I just want this resolved before camp. Whether he stays or leaves.
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Post#233 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:10 pm

klemen4 wrote:For Smart signing let's say 2 year 20, million is still better than QO of 6 million because he would need to get 14 million first year salary in 2019 to get to 20 million for 18/19 and 19/20.

Deal will get done, it makes sense for both parties.


Yeah, this. Getting 10 million this year and next also bumps his career earnings up a ton, and there’s security in that.
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Post#234 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:12 pm

I still think it’ll be three or four years and they’re fine tuning a number.. they really do want him here, and that gives his camp a little leverage to get Marcus’ deal back closer to “fair” value above this year’s market.. where he’d be lucky to get the MLE from another team, because of tax issues.
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Post#235 » by Froob » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:20 pm

GB can’t decide if Smart is good or not til he re-signs.
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Post#236 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:21 pm

If you sign smart for 13 bones, thats 7 bones per year over the QO. Those additional dollars could come back to **** us, or could be key to having a cost controlled back court if Kyrie leaves and we need to resign rozier for even more bones. Tough decisions
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Post#237 » by Edug27 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:22 pm

klemen4 wrote:For Smart signing let's say 2 year 20, million is still better than QO of 6 million because he would need to get 14 million first year salary in 2019 to get to 20 million for 18/19 and 19/20.

Deal will get done, it makes sense for both parties.


2 years 20 mil would be amazing.
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Post#238 » by Froob » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:29 pm

Who is Orlando playing at point? Shane Larkin would even be far better than who they had. Smart couldn’t even get an offer there?
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Post#239 » by klemen4 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:43 pm

3 year 33mill exum deal imo is what minimum they think they can get. Randle got 2 year 18 mill...so realistically Smart number should be in that range 9-11 million per year.

Imo if we start in 9 million range first year, 10 second, 11 third...we can stay under tax...that also should be the goal. Nader for sure will be gone, Yabu is in danger.
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Post#240 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:00 pm

Froob wrote:Who is Orlando playing at point? Shane Larkin would even be far better than who they had. Smart couldn’t even get an offer there?

No cap space. Teams that can offer MLE know they'll only get matched.

Edit: Smart won't sign on MLE money anyway.
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