Who are the "bastard sons" in your team's history?

Dupp · Post #21 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:58 am

Hooplah wrote:
Monky15 wrote:
Hooplah wrote:Allen Iverson, Ben Gordon, Josh Smith. Basically everyone that got Joe Dumars fired.

Don't forget Charlie V

OP asked for great players.

Ben Gordon
Josh smith

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Post #22 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:00 am

NBAFan93 wrote:Do Warriors fans think of KD this way? Just curious. Seems like his situation could potentially invoke these types of feelings.

No.

Hooplah · Post #23 » by **Hooplah** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:09 am

Dupp wrote:
Hooplah wrote:
Monky15 wrote:
Don't forget Charlie V

OP asked for great players.

Ben Gordon
Josh smith

Pause

They had their moments. Just not with the Pistons.

JermaineOYea · Post #24 » by **JermaineOYea** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:13 am

smartyz456 wrote:to be clear, i'm talking about the players who have played for your franchise who, while great, are someone who you will never see as one of your own

players who played for your team who doesn't deserve to have the love and adulation of your fanbase

i'll start. the bastard sons of the lakers are lebron and dwight howard for obvious reasons

how about yours?

What the hell kind of topic is this? And why am I even replying? Ffs, get a life.

Saint Lazarus · Post #25 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:19 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:Do Warriors fans think of KD this way? Just curious. Seems like his situation could potentially invoke these types of feelings.

No.

You're not actually a Warriors fan though.

Hooplah · Post #26 » by **Hooplah** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:20 am

JermaineOYea wrote:
smartyz456 wrote:to be clear, i'm talking about the players who have played for your franchise who, while great, are someone who you will never see as one of your own

players who played for your team who doesn't deserve to have the love and adulation of your fanbase

i'll start. the bastard sons of the lakers are lebron and dwight howard for obvious reasons

how about yours?

What the hell kind of topic is this? And why am I even replying? Ffs, get a life.

Let me help you out. The Pacers' "bastard son's" are everyone who's ever played for them aside from Reggie Miller.

jason bourne · Post #27 » by **jason bourne** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:20 am

#1 would be Coach Don Nelson. He was an arrogant dumb bastard of a GM who traded away Mitch Richmond of Run TMC. The other two of Run TMC being Chris Mullin and Tim Hardaway. They could have won a chip had they stayed together. Nelson also gave up three unprotected #1 picks + rights to Anfernee Hardaway for rights to Chris Webber. After winning ROY, Nelson and CWebb could not get along and he traded him leading to a depressing situation and many consecutive losing seasons.

Another would be Rick Barry. The guy is a selfish prick who left the team for the ABA. What puts him in the bastard sons category is after finishing his career, he wanted to get an executive position on the team in order to run it. Good thing he never got close to sniffing an executive seat. It's his a-hole personality and not his b-ball skills that made fans and Warriors management alike not want him as an executive.

Finally, I liked Monta Ellis, but many Warriors fans would probably list him because of missed game-winning shots. Forever tied to the Andrew Bogut trade. The Warriors wanted to keep Ellis and trade the oft-injured Stephen Curry, but the Bucks balked at that deal. Fortunately, keeping Curry led to three chips. Also, Coach Mark Jackson despite turning the team around even though he had no prior coaching experience. Fans probably do not appreciate his ISO ball offense.

Post #28 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:24 am

Saint Lazarus wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:Do Warriors fans think of KD this way? Just curious. Seems like his situation could potentially invoke these types of feelings.

No.

You're not actually a Warriors fan though.

That's news to me! Honestly, only the GM Bob Myers feels that way about KD.

Dominator83 · Post #29 » by **Dominator83** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:30 am

JermaineOYea wrote:
smartyz456 wrote:to be clear, i'm talking about the players who have played for your franchise who, while great, are someone who you will never see as one of your own

players who played for your team who doesn't deserve to have the love and adulation of your fanbase

i'll start. the bastard sons of the lakers are lebron and dwight howard for obvious reasons

how about yours?

What the hell kind of topic is this? And why am I even replying? Ffs, get a life.

cpfsf · Post #30 » by **cpfsf** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:54 am

PharmD wrote:lol the Wolves haven't had any great players play for the franchise. I guess maybe Chauncey Billups and AK47 are the closest we can get.

i'd pick stephon marbury though referring to him as bastard son seems a bit harsh. i don't feel he ever cared about playing for the timberwolves. i heard the rumors. he disliked mchale, jealousy of KG, NY homesick. who knows. in the end marbury forced a trade. so while he is among the best to play in minnesota, it felt more like a rental agreement than a legacy. which sucks since i started watching basketball because i was so excited about that duo. they were really fun to watch.

Frank Dux · Post #31 » by **Frank Dux** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:03 am

OP should be banned for this post

smartyz456 · Post #32 » by **smartyz456** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:25 am

picc wrote:The narrative about the only laker fans not receptive to Lebron in P&G being "kobe fans" is so incredibly lazy. Its such low hanging fruit, for narrow-minded people. As if there arent 10,000 reasons to not like Lebron and he's actually universally loved outside the city limits of LA.

thanks for backing me up

it seems that people do not believe that there is a sizable portion of laker fans who do not want lebron on the team

we will be paying a 34 year old lebron 40 mil a year while he marginalizes ingram, lonzo, kuz and hart

how exciting!

Saint Lazarus · Post #33 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:25 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Saint Lazarus wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:No.

You're not actually a Warriors fan though.

That's news to me! Honestly, only the GM Bob Myers feels that way about KD.

I mean, it's pretty clear that you're just a spurned-Seattle fan. You'd be a fan of Satan if KD signed with the Lake of Sulfur 666ers.

I'm sure there are plenty of Warriors fans who see KD as a bandwagon player and prefer Draymond/Klay/Curry.

Calamity_Cometh · Post #34 » by **Calamity_Cometh** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:00 am

LakersLegacy · Post #35 » by **LakersLegacy** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:23 am

D Fisher Snow

Fencer reregistered · Post #36 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:48 am

It's easy for the Celtics: Judas Shuttlesworth. Almost nobody leaves the Celtics on bad terms, but he's an exception.

Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell was briefly another candidate, but he's been a Celtic radio broadcaster for a long time now, so that's ancient history.

Rick Fox was a decent player for the Cs, but not great, and he left on fine terms. Similarly Brian Shaw.

Jay 20 · Post #37 » by **Jay 20** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:50 am

Saint Lazarus wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Saint Lazarus wrote:
You're not actually a Warriors fan though.

That's news to me! Honestly, only the GM Bob Myers feels that way about KD.

I mean, it's pretty clear that you're just a spurned-Seattle fan. You'd be a fan of Satan if KD signed with the Lake of Sulfur 666ers.

I'm sure there are plenty of Warriors fans who see KD as a bandwagon player and prefer Draymond/Klay/Curry.

Define "plenty"..

I bet it would be extremely hard to find a Warriors fan that would feel that way about Durant. If they do then I question their Warriors fandem kinda like the dude who changed teams because LeBron joined the Lakers?? Come on...

Post #38 » by **boomershadow** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:11 pm

Hooplah wrote:
JermaineOYea wrote:
smartyz456 wrote:to be clear, i'm talking about the players who have played for your franchise who, while great, are someone who you will never see as one of your own

players who played for your team who doesn't deserve to have the love and adulation of your fanbase

i'll start. the bastard sons of the lakers are lebron and dwight howard for obvious reasons

how about yours?

What the hell kind of topic is this? And why am I even replying? Ffs, get a life.

Let me help you out. The Pacers' "bastard son's" are everyone who's ever played for them aside from Reggie Miller.

For me it's Ron Artest with no hesitation. I don't care what awards he won or how good he was. He forced a trade after the organization stood by him even though he seriously damaged the organizations reputation and image. The team with him on it the year the Brawl happened was probably a more serious contender than any of the previous Reggie teams, even the one that made the Finals. He fact that he went on to play for the BS Lakers just makes it worse in my eyes.

The only knock on Danny Granger was that he couldn't stay healthy.

The situation with Paul George ended badly, but there were some good years in those Pacers/Heat ECFs. And the trade ended up bringing in the current face of our Fran hise.

Impuniti · Post #39 » by **Impuniti** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:17 pm

smartyz456 wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:Lol at Kobe stans trying to pass up for laker fans.

If lebron wins 1 or 2 rings for us he will be a " bastard son" my ass.

oh i am a laker fan for life

i'm just gonna be a warrior fan until lebron leaves the lakers

i just cant root for the cheating, flopping primadonna douchebag even if he's on the team

true laker fans don't root for lebron

axeman23 · Post #40 » by **axeman23** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:23 pm

smartyz456 wrote:
Hellcrooner wrote:Lol at Kobe stans trying to pass up for laker fans.

If lebron wins 1 or 2 rings for us he will be a " bastard son" my ass.

oh i am a laker fan for life

i'm just gonna be a warrior fan until lebron leaves the lakers

i just cant root for the cheating, flopping primadonna douchebag even if he's on the team

true laker fans don't root for lebron