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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#421 » by DCZards » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:56 pm

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nate33 wrote:The crack about making it to the Finals reminds me a bit of Wall and Beal. Wall and Beal constantly proclaim themselves the best backcourt in the league but never seem to manage better than 5th place in the woeful Eastern Conference. Howard really does believe he is one of the very best centers in the league who can carry his team to the Finals, despite multiple seasons proving otherwise. Yes, he made the Finals 8 freaking years ago, but looking at his recent performances, his teams have won 36, 43 and 41 games. Howard needs to own that.


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Post#422 » by NatP4 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:51 pm

My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.
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Post#423 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:19 pm

NatP4 wrote:My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.

Watch him in Atlanta when he had some other decent players around him. His playing style in Charlotte was completely different from his previous few years, I think the Hornets knew they had no chance of winning so they let Howard do whatever he wanted.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#424 » by nate33 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:19 pm

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NatP4 wrote:My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.

Watch him in Atlanta when he had some other decent players around him. His playing style in Charlotte was completely different from his previous few years, I think the Hornets knew they had no chance of winning so they let Howard do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, I think Howard needs strong leadership from his teammates and coach in order to play the right way. I fear that we lack the winning culture to make it work. The Wizards already have an oversupply of the same bad habits that Howard brings with him. They're selfish, overconfident, and focused on individual success and not team success. If anything, they'll feed on each others' bad habits.

That said, anything is possible when you have talent. Maybe Howard and Morris shape up in preparation for a new contract. Maybe Wall and Beal recognize that it's time to put up or shut up. There's certainly a chance it'll work out.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#425 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:31 pm

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NatP4 wrote:My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.

Watch him in Atlanta when he had some other decent players around him. His playing style in Charlotte was completely different from his previous few years, I think the Hornets knew they had no chance of winning so they let Howard do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, I think Howard needs strong leadership from his teammates and coach in order to play the right way. I fear that we lack the winning culture to make it work. The Wizards already have an oversupply of the same bad habits that Howard brings with him. They're selfish, overconfident, and focused on individual success and not team success. If anything, they'll feed on each others' bad habits.

That said, anything is possible when you have talent. Maybe Howard and Morris shape up in preparation for a new contract. Maybe Wall and Beal recognize that it's time to put up or shut up. There's certainly a chance it'll work out.

See where you're coming from but not sure I totally agree nate. Washington has a lot of talented players with playoff experience. They may not be perfect in their habits , but they aren't career losers or anything, it's not like we are bringing Howard into a tanking type situation.

Compare the Wizards to last year's Hornets which had the roster of a lottery team, it's a completely different situation. I certainly have some concerns but I think the extent of the Wizards lack of "winning culture" is overstated. Furthermore Dwight Howard has only missed the playoffs 4 times in his 14 year career. He takes a lot of heat, but I think the idea that Howard is a loser or doesn't want to win is also very overstated and unfair.

Just two seasons ago this roster won 49 games.. if healthy these guys can and will win games with Howard in the fold. I am actually tiring of the talk about "personalities" etc , imo professional basketball is not that complicated where we as fans need to psychoanalyze every player on a team. Generally teams that have talent and stay healthy will be successful, and I am looking forwarrd to the Wizards doing just that.
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Re: Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj 

Post#426 » by NatP4 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:43 pm

Ok, I see what you’re saying. Much different and more disciplined player on the hawks. We better be getting that guy. Set screens and roll.
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Post#427 » by JWizmentality » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:00 pm

Yup, this team already has some terrible habits and is very undisciplined. This could be a disaster with Howard. Saying you won't brag anymore is not a culture change.
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Post#428 » by gtn130 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:55 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.

Watch him in Atlanta when he had some other decent players around him. His playing style in Charlotte was completely different from his previous few years, I think the Hornets knew they had no chance of winning so they let Howard do whatever he wanted.


Yeah with Ernie Grunfeld and Scott Brooks leading the strong winning culture here in DC, I imagine Dwight will have his most disciplined and professional season of his career.
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Post#429 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:07 pm

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NatP4 wrote:My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.

Watch him in Atlanta when he had some other decent players around him. His playing style in Charlotte was completely different from his previous few years, I think the Hornets knew they had no chance of winning so they let Howard do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, I think Howard needs strong leadership from his teammates and coach in order to play the right way. I fear that we lack the winning culture to make it work. The Wizards already have an oversupply of the same bad habits that Howard brings with him. They're selfish, overconfident, and focused on individual success and not team success. If anything, they'll feed on each others' bad habits.

That said, anything is possible when you have talent. Maybe Howard and Morris shape up in preparation for a new contract. Maybe Wall and Beal recognize that it's time to put up or shut up. There's certainly a chance it'll work out.


That's why I'm happy for Gortat to be on another team.

This is going to be real obvious by 10-15 games into the season when the Wizards are at or near .500. They're going to be losing teams that are more connected defensively and better coached. John Wall and Bradley Beal are what they are. GOOD but not great. Wall is not even a good leader. Howard is what he is.

This is NOT going to end up well, even though the team has 50-win plus talent.

Brooks is a BAD coach. As much as I talked badly about Flip Saunders as a coach, I think Brooks is possibly THE WORST coach the Wizards have had in recent memory. Teammates snipe at one another when THE COACH permits such a culture. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. Stars jack shots and do not defend, but coach doesn't have the stones to DO SOMETHING. He plays the worst lineups. Hates Satoransky. Kisses Wall's butt. Brooks is getting paid a lot and he absolutely does NOTHING to justify it.
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Post#430 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:51 pm

NatP4 wrote:My god, Howard’s game footage in infuriating. Being a guard on his team has to be so frustrating. The guy doesn’t set any screens, doesn’t give the ball up when he gets a rebound, wants to play PG, he doesn’t roll whenever he does finally set a good screen, he just stands there and waits for the ball so he can launch an awful jumpshot.

He’s like the anti Gortat, so lazy, doesn’t set any good screens, doesn’t care about winning at all. This is going to end miserably.


If Howard doesn't screen, or is a lazy screener, it could be disastrous for us given Brooks lack of any real offense....you throw-in Rivers wild game and all bets are off. Remember, Brooks is a weak coach who is afraid of confrontation with his players.
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/06/29/report-john-walls-lazy-defense-at-center-of-squabble-with-marcin-gortat/

OTOH, this mix might work-out somehow
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Post#431 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:43 pm

Dwight is so lazy if there were a job in bed he would sleep on the floor.
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Post#432 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:44 pm

Dwight is so lazy he doesn't run away from screens, that's just too hard.
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Post#433 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:48 pm

Dwight's motto: Just set the screen! But not today...
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Post#434 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:34 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Dwight's motto: Just set the screen! But not today...


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Post#435 » by NatP4 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:25 pm

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Illmatic12 wrote:Watch him in Atlanta when he had some other decent players around him. His playing style in Charlotte was completely different from his previous few years, I think the Hornets knew they had no chance of winning so they let Howard do whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, I think Howard needs strong leadership from his teammates and coach in order to play the right way. I fear that we lack the winning culture to make it work. The Wizards already have an oversupply of the same bad habits that Howard brings with him. They're selfish, overconfident, and focused on individual success and not team success. If anything, they'll feed on each others' bad habits.

That said, anything is possible when you have talent. Maybe Howard and Morris shape up in preparation for a new contract. Maybe Wall and Beal recognize that it's time to put up or shut up. There's certainly a chance it'll work out.


That's why I'm happy for Gortat to be on another team.

This is going to be real obvious by 10-15 games into the season when the Wizards are at or near .500. They're going to be losing teams that are more connected defensively and better coached. John Wall and Bradley Beal are what they are. GOOD but not great. Wall is not even a good leader. Howard is what he is.

This is NOT going to end up well, even though the team has 50-win plus talent.

Brooks is a BAD coach. As much as I talked badly about Flip Saunders as a coach, I think Brooks is possibly THE WORST coach the Wizards have had in recent memory. Teammates snipe at one another when THE COACH permits such a culture. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. Stars jack shots and do not defend, but coach doesn't have the stones to DO SOMETHING. He plays the worst lineups. Hates Satoransky. Kisses Wall's butt. Brooks is getting paid a lot and he absolutely does NOTHING to justify it.


Preach. He does absolutely nothing.
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Post#436 » by Dark Faze » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:58 pm

Brooks is the biggest fear I have for the upcoming season
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Post#437 » by keynote » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:07 pm



The worst.

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Post#438 » by JWizmentality » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:10 pm

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The worst.



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Post#439 » by FAH1223 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:51 pm

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The worst.


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