Kawhi Thread, Numero 4 -- Traded to Raptors for DeRozan, others

[truth18]

You just going to forget they signed the best player in all of sports to a 4 year deal?

This has what exactly to do with me saying they won't get Leonard or George in multiple threads?

Cave/Valid/others disagreed. Many others said it was a lock for them to aquire one of those players. It wasn't. My take was correct.

All your post does is reinforce my point. Even with Lebron, they couldn't get George or KL this year.

You nailed it this offseason, brother. Props. And what's even better is that Philly also got skunked. lol.

Its awesome stuff. Once BC lost his job I was fairly certain they were **** this off-season but I can't lie, a small part of me was worried Lebron went there anyway.

Honestly doesn't even seem like that was a factor though, he was never going to Philly.

[CelticsLV]

There it is. Maybe KL ends up in LA in 2019 but until then I'm quite smug with my consistent take on this issue.

One last time: don't believe the LA media hype. No George. No Leonard. Things have changed.

You just going to forget they signed the best player in all of sports to a 4 year deal?

This has what exactly to do with me saying they won't get Leonard or George in multiple threads?

Cave/Valid/others disagreed. Many others said it was a lock for them to aquire one of those players. It wasn't. My take was correct.

All your post does is reinforce my point. Even with Lebron, they couldn't get George or KL this year.

Not sure why you even put Leonard in there when he wasn't FA? Completely different situation. I think they could've gotten Leonard but they simply decided not to bend over for the Spurs.

[Valid]

Just remember boys and girls, TRUST THE PROC...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is exactly what that pathetic franchise deserves. You don't say "Screw you" to your fans for 6 years by intentionally losing every game you can and then expect to suddenly by a great team. Philly has established a culture of losing, and that is exactly what they are going to continue to do!!!!

They thought they were gonna be the best team in the East and now they are the third-best team in their own division. It's hilarious.

[truth18]

You just going to forget they signed the best player in all of sports to a 4 year deal?

This has what exactly to do with me saying they won't get Leonard or George in multiple threads?

Cave/Valid/others disagreed. Many others said it was a lock for them to aquire one of those players. It wasn't. My take was correct.

All your post does is reinforce my point. Even with Lebron, they couldn't get George or KL this year.

Not sure why you even put Leonard in there when he wasn't FA?

Again, because I was arguing with many folks who said George and/or Leonard was a lock to LA this summer. There is no deeper meaning here outside of that.

What's so complicated here exactly?

[LarryBirdsFingr]

i like it for both teams.. SAS definitely caved when it came to value but they get a proven 28 yr old All Star to add to their team.. That will allow them to compete in the West.. For Toronto, they get out of the DD contract and hope they can convince Leonard to stay.. If not, they hit the reset button

Nah. I don't like this for the Spurs at all. DeRozan is a grossly overrated player on a bad contract and the Spurs couldn't even swipe Anunoby in the deal. Awful deal for them.

Toronto is the only team who was willing to trade for him without a guarantee that he will even show up to play. Pretty sure San Antonio just turned a rotten tomato into at least a serviceable grocery store tomato, certainly not a fancy heirloom, but better than nothing.

[Moose23]

Demar really pissed now.

He was told at summer league he would not be traded.

If Kawhi refuses to report or fails medical and deal falls through this will be disaster for toronto.

Lol.

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[truth18]

Demar really pissed now.

He was told at summer league he would not be traded.

If Kawhi refuses to report or fails medical and deal falls through this will be disaster for toronto.

Lol.

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You picked the right squad, Moose.

[Valid]

i like it for both teams.. SAS definitely caved when it came to value but they get a proven 28 yr old All Star to add to their team.. That will allow them to compete in the West.. For Toronto, they get out of the DD contract and hope they can convince Leonard to stay.. If not, they hit the reset button

Nah. I don't like this for the Spurs at all. DeRozan is a grossly overrated player on a bad contract and the Spurs couldn't even swipe Anunoby in the deal. Awful deal for them.

Toronto is the only team who was willing to trade for him without a guarantee that he will even show up to play. Pretty sure San Antonio just turned a rotten tomato into at least a serviceable grocery store tomato, certainly not a fancy heirloom, but better than nothing.

I understand that, but they couldn't at least squeeze OG out of the deal? This might be the worst return for a superstar player I've ever seen.

[Edug27]

There it is. Maybe KL ends up in LA in 2019 but until then I'm quite smug with my consistent take on this issue.

One last time: don't believe the LA media hype. No George. No Leonard. Things have changed.

You just going to forget they signed the best player in all of sports to a 4 year deal?

This has what exactly to do with me saying they won't get Leonard or George in multiple threads?

Cave/Valid/others disagreed. Many others said it was a lock for them to aquire one of those players. It wasn't. My take was correct.

All your post does is reinforce my point. Even with Lebron, they couldn't get George or KL this year.

You said 'don't believe the LA media hype'? I guess I'm confused on what that means? Does it mean players don't wan't to be in LA like the media thinks?? Or does it mean that LA can't seal the deal for these players? Because Leonard demanded to go to LA. PG also wanted to go to LA and said he was disappointed that they didn't trade for him.

[cloverleaf]

Whatever it does for Toronto and San Antonio, I think Boston dodged a bullet.

I think the C's can get by the Raps this year--who then fall apart.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Nah. I don't like this for the Spurs at all. DeRozan is a grossly overrated player on a bad contract and the Spurs couldn't even swipe Anunoby in the deal. Awful deal for them.

Toronto is the only team who was willing to trade for him without a guarantee that he will even show up to play. Pretty sure San Antonio just turned a rotten tomato into at least a serviceable grocery store tomato, certainly not a fancy heirloom, but better than nothing.

I understand that, but they couldn't at least squeeze OG out of the deal? This might be the worst return for a superstar player I've ever seen.

Dude. Think about that risk, look at it on paper. San Antonio makes mistakes, but if they pulled the trigger on this, it certainly was the best option on the table.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Nah. I don't like this for the Spurs at all. DeRozan is a grossly overrated player on a bad contract and the Spurs couldn't even swipe Anunoby in the deal. Awful deal for them.

Toronto is the only team who was willing to trade for him without a guarantee that he will even show up to play. Pretty sure San Antonio just turned a rotten tomato into at least a serviceable grocery store tomato, certainly not a fancy heirloom, but better than nothing.

I understand that, but they couldn't at least squeeze OG out of the deal? This might be the worst return for a superstar player I've ever seen.

Toronto had leverage. When the guy you're trading away turns down the supermax, and then tells everyone he would prefer to be traded to only 2 teams, you are going to get pennies on the dollar.

[Edug27]

Toronto is the only team who was willing to trade for him without a guarantee that he will even show up to play. Pretty sure San Antonio just turned a rotten tomato into at least a serviceable grocery store tomato, certainly not a fancy heirloom, but better than nothing.

I understand that, but they couldn't at least squeeze OG out of the deal? This might be the worst return for a superstar player I've ever seen.

Dude. Think about that risk, look at it on paper. San Antonio makes mistakes, but if they pulled the trigger on this, it certainly was the best option on the table.

The fact that they even got Poeltl and a possible pick is a win for them. SA didn't have much leverage here. It was either take the trash LA was offering.... or have Derozan.

[Larry Legend 33]

"It starts with Jaylen + SAC19"

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAAAA

I bet Spurstalk is having quite the little meltdown.

[ViperGTS]

I understand that, but they couldn't at least squeeze OG out of the deal? This might be the worst return for a superstar player I've ever seen.

Dude. Think about that risk, look at it on paper. San Antonio makes mistakes, but if they pulled the trigger on this, it certainly was the best option on the table.

The fact that they even got Poeltl and a possible pick is a win for them. SA didn't have much leverage here. It was either take the trash LA was offering.... or have Derozan.

And people here were throwing out some ridiculous packages.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Leonard is phenomenal, but Toronto isn't good enough to beat us even with him.

And LMAOOOO at Philadelphia. Just LMAOOOOO. They go from thinking they are getting LeBron and Kawhi to settling for Wilson Chandler and then Nemanja Bjelica backs out of his contract.

Kawhi going to Toronto is best-case scenario for us. He doesn't go to Philly, and the Lakers don't get what they want.

This is great.

[philly]WTF are you talking about? Wilson Chandler is a generational bench piece. We got the unprotected Miami pick which is basically better than the top pick from this past draft. Youre such a homer[/philly]

[ViperGTS]

"It starts with Jaylen + SAC19"

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAAAA

I bet Spurstalk is having quite the little meltdown.

Bingo. Was never hapoening. Thank god Danny is an adult.

[truth18]

You just going to forget they signed the best player in all of sports to a 4 year deal?

This has what exactly to do with me saying they won't get Leonard or George in multiple threads?

Cave/Valid/others disagreed. Many others said it was a lock for them to aquire one of those players. It wasn't. My take was correct.

All your post does is reinforce my point. Even with Lebron, they couldn't get George or KL this year.

You said 'don't believe the LA media hype'? I guess I'm confused on what that means? Does it mean players don't wan't to be in LA like the media thinks?? Or does it mean that LA can't seal the deal for these players? Because Leonard demanded to go to LA. PG also wanted to go to LA and said he was disappointed that they didn't trade for him.

When Jeanie was posting stuff like "never underestimate" and Shelburne/the ESPN LA people were incinuating that it was a 100% lock to acquire George or Leonard, I strongly disagreed. LA media hype, LA forum hype, etc, were all incorrect. People assumed these players would end up there (even more so after Bron) based on nothing but the distant past and an inconsistent "championship" culture. They believed that LAL would get them because they are LAL. That's not how this league works and hasn't for some time, Bron or not. That's how current GS works.

LA got a huge dose of reality this offseason.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Also, pop is going to hand the keys to Murray this season. He's all in on this kid. He literally said so directly to my face. If you look at the other moves they made, this is exactly the type of roster to give him a good shot to grow. DeRozan is flawed, but if he's in the pressure release valve role next to Murray, with improved coaching I can't see how this looks terrible for their long term goals.

[Larry Legend 33]

"It starts with Jaylen + SAC19"

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAAAA

I bet Spurstalk is having quite the little meltdown.

Bingo. Was never hapoening. Thank god Danny is an adult.

I wish I could pull up every single time one of those clowns on the trade board said this would be different than PG/Boogie.