Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty

[StopitLeo]

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I don't buy it. He can be hurt but I can't see management completely lying to him. He had to know there were discussions even if a trade didn't look likely at one point.

What don't you buy exactly? you think DD is liar now too?

I don't buy that DeRozan was intentionally deceived. He may very well have been told he wasn't being traded because at the time of the discussion a trade did not seem like it was going to happen. That doesn't mean he was lied to because he was later traded.

[OAKLEY_2]

The fact this is ending so badly shows the Raps predicament. They virtually cannot trust any players or their agents so it was kill or be killed.

[HighUpNorth]

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I don't buy it. He can be hurt but I can't see management completely lying to him. He had to know there were discussions even if a trade didn't look likely at one point.

What don't you buy exactly? you think DD is liar now too?

I don't buy that DeRozan was intentionally deceived. He may very well have been told he wasn't being traded because at the time of the discussion a trade did not seem like it was going to happen. That doesn't mean he was lied to because he was later traded.

He was lied to.

[refshateRaps]

Emotionally unstable. That's why he always under performs in the playoffs.

Just take it like a man and move on.

Spoken like a true man putting down other on RealGM from a computer in Moms basement. DD was put in a position bigger than he should have here, He wasn't a superstar. It worked out great for him financially, and I would argue he handled himself like a man his whole tenure and accomplished more than most athletes in this world. He was a special talent that worked very hard.

These cheap shots are why people with depression or anxiety stay silent.

[HighUpNorth]

The fact this is ending so badly shows the Raps predicament. They virtually cannot trust any players or their agents so it was kill or be killed.

Why would anyone trust the Raptors now? we had problem with free agents before but now LOL good luck

[Chandan]

See how mature and how much DeRozan has grown into a man before our eyes? The moment some **** goes down he degenerates into a pout throwing blames around and posting crytic message on Instagram like a emo girl.

I was told he was down to earth, level headed and has no ego and only want the best for the city of Toronto.

[StopitLeo]

What don't you buy exactly? you think DD is liar now too?

I don't buy that DeRozan was intentionally deceived. He may very well have been told he wasn't being traded because at the time of the discussion a trade did not seem like it was going to happen. That doesn't mean he was lied to because he was later traded.

He was lied to.

Ok, glad you were there to be able to confirm that.

[Childs]

Spurs were probably asking for too much and Toronto declined.

Toronto then probably told Demar there is no deal and he is gonna stay.

Spurs got desperate and said they can negotiate more and asked for less.

Toronto then was back on the table and Derozan got blindsided.

That's my theory.

That's very plausible. It could even have been something like the Spurs wanting DeMar + OG/Pascal+ protected first (same way as actual deal) and Toronto saying no to OG/Pascal. Deals is dead then RC Buford calls and says "What about Poeltl instead of OG/Siakam?" and the deal is done.

Don't forget Danny Green as the kicker in the deal.

Green is a very good player in this league and the perfect 3 + D shooting guard.

Wasn’t that like 2013 to 2014?

[HighUpNorth]

I don't buy that DeRozan was intentionally deceived. He may very well have been told he wasn't being traded because at the time of the discussion a trade did not seem like it was going to happen. That doesn't mean he was lied to because he was later traded.

He was lied to.

Ok, glad you were there to be able to confirm that.

No reason for DD to say he was lied to if he wasn't lied to.

[HighUpNorth]

See how mature and how much DeRozan has grown into a man before our eyes? The moment some **** goes down he degenerates into a pout throwing blames around and posting crytic message on Instagram like a emo girl.

I was told he was down to earth, level headed and has no ego and only want the best for the city of Toronto.

You are a pathetic human being.

Suspended, again

[Childs]

See how mature and how much DeRozan has grown into a man before our eyes? The moment some **** goes down he degenerates into a pout throwing blames around and posting crytic message on Instagram like a emo girl.

This is a guy I was told was down to earth, level headed and has no ego and only want the best for the city of Toronto.

This is weak.

[Jcity08]

I don't buy that DeRozan was intentionally deceived. He may very well have been told he wasn't being traded because at the time of the discussion a trade did not seem like it was going to happen. That doesn't mean he was lied to because he was later traded.

He was lied to.

Ok, glad you were there to be able to confirm that.

He was lied to by his delusion fans. Like Casey being an amazing, unfireable coach.

[SurgeIblocka]

Masai has lost all respect in my eyes. If it wasnt Masai then its still on him to ensure his staff doesnt say false sht. I dont care i Kawhi stays or goes but this interaction and lie to a loyal player who didnt even meet with any other team during free agency is just Fckn pathetic. Fake tears for Casey when he fired him and Masai’s true character is coming to light in how he handled this situation.

He better be on a flight back to hold a press conference on this issue of telling your star player he isnt getting traded and he traded him. I want to hear wtf he has to say for himself. Im livid

[MEDIC]

Also, if any of us get fired, do you think your boss cares that your wife is fighting with you at home? That your daughter has leukaemia? That your dad died? The business world keeps moving, it doesn't account for your personal losses and emotions, life is suffering, and business is business. You have to play in that field and not get bent out of shape because a team decided to move on from your services. I own an SEO company, and I've had clients come and clients leave, I can't get upset when clients leave, it's just part of the business, unless they slighted me in the process (and I don't think DeMar has a strong case there outside of his own ego because this team has given him the world).

Depends on the company. If its a sh*t one that doesn't care about its people, then yeah....

I've worked for companies that tried to help when you are going through a rough patch.

[Pooh_Jeter]

Was he lied to? I guess, but it's the reality of this business.

You're not going to immediately inform a player if their name comes up in a trade offer and if you are considering moving on from a player you aren't going to openly flaunt that unless they have demanded a trade or something.

The same goes for players though, LeBron was under no pressure to inform Dan Gilbert about his plans in free agency.

[Anatomize]

Also, if any of us get fired, do you think your boss cares that your wife is fighting with you at home? That your daughter has leukaemia? That your dad died? The business world keeps moving, it doesn't account for your personal losses and emotions, life is suffering, and business is business. You have to play in that field and not get bent out of shape because a team decided to move on from your services. I own an SEO company, and I've had clients come and clients leave, I can't get upset when clients leave, it's just part of the business, unless they slighted me in the process (and I don't think DeMar has a strong case there outside of his own ego because this team has given him the world).

Depends on the company. If its a sh*t one that doesn't care about its people, then yeah....

I've worked for companies that tried to help when you are going through a rough patch.

Yes, but they value the skills that you brought to the company and you're still a part of the team. They wouldn't NOT fire you because you're going through something, it's unrelated. You fire or hire people based on their skills (interpersonal, soft, hard, etc.) and other factors (overhead, conduct etc.).

A company's ethics and code of conduct isn't related to firing you, let's not mix those two up. Helping an employee who's still an employee has nothing to do with firing someone.

[SurgeIblocka]

Also, if any of us get fired, do you think your boss cares that your wife is fighting with you at home? That your daughter has leukaemia? That your dad died? The business world keeps moving, it doesn't account for your personal losses and emotions, life is suffering, and business is business. You have to play in that field and not get bent out of shape because a team decided to move on from your services. I own an SEO company, and I've had clients come and clients leave, I can't get upset when clients leave, it's just part of the business, unless they slighted me in the process (and I don't think DeMar has a strong case there outside of his own ego because this team has given him the world).

Depends on the company. If its a sh*t one that doesn't care about its people, then yeah....

I've worked for companies that tried to help when you are going through a rough patch.

If your employer tells you they love you and wont fire you a week before they fire you, thats a shady organization that no one wants to work for !

[MEDIC]

I hope the media asks Masai about this during the presser. It needs to be addressed.

[Anatomize]

Also, if any of us get fired, do you think your boss cares that your wife is fighting with you at home? That your daughter has leukaemia? That your dad died? The business world keeps moving, it doesn't account for your personal losses and emotions, life is suffering, and business is business. You have to play in that field and not get bent out of shape because a team decided to move on from your services. I own an SEO company, and I've had clients come and clients leave, I can't get upset when clients leave, it's just part of the business, unless they slighted me in the process (and I don't think DeMar has a strong case there outside of his own ego because this team has given him the world).

Depends on the company. If its a sh*t one that doesn't care about its people, then yeah....

I've worked for companies that tried to help when you are going through a rough patch.

If your employer tells you they love you and wont fire you a week before they fire you, thats a shady organization that no one wants to work for !

They told him they love him? Don't add false things to this story.

There are also other things at play here:

Who did he meet with? Was it Masai? Was it someone in the upper brass who didn't have knowledge that Masai is working on dealing him?

There could simply be miscommunication.

It also has to do with the fact that you want to avoid any mis-steps, say you tell him he's going to get moved, he could start talking to guys internally and messing up team chemistry/vibe. DeMar was extremely loyal and a great Raptor, I agree that SOMEONE (who ever it was) shouldn't have told him he wouldn't be dealt - it was poor conduct and a great mistake. I feel he'll get over it right quick, we sent him to one of the best organizations in pro-sports and the greatest NBA coach in history, we didn't do him any disfavours beyond that slight misstep; this was a necessary evil. I think it's hilarious that people always try to compare athletes to their jobs as if the two are somehow equal in scope and scale.

[pbj]

See how mature and how much DeRozan has grown into a man before our eyes? The moment some **** goes down he degenerates into a pout throwing blames around and posting crytic message on Instagram like a emo girl.

I was told he was down to earth, level headed and has no ego and only want the best for the city of Toronto.

Don't be a jerk