Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. "He works hard for the money" Agrees to 4 year 52$ million deal page 32

[ConstableGeneva]

4/44 that can go up to 50 if he reaches certain performance and/or health thresholds (not sure if they can do this). Sign on the dotted line, Mahcus!

[sarcasma]

This is astoundingly stupid if Boston does this. Why would we outbid ourselves?
What the hell is going to happen when we re-sign Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and after the tax we are paying SMART $26 million or even $39?
What is going to happen when we draft 2 guard studs in the lottery next year and Brad wont play them because SMART has to get his minutes?
What happens when we have to let Horford or Hayward go because due to the repeater tax because Boston is paying SMART $39 million a year.
I just cant fathom this rumor is true.

[thelarrybirdx]

This is astoundingly stupid if Boston does this. Why would we outbid ourselves?
What the hell is going to happen when we re-sign Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and after the tax we are paying SMART $26 million or even $39?
What is going to happen when we draft 2 guard studs in the lottery next year and Brad wont play them because SMART has to get his minutes?
What happens when we have to let Horford or Hayward go because due to the repeater tax because Boston is paying SMART $39 million a year.
I just cant fathom this rumor is true.

Hmm very interesting. Sounds like you know more about the cap than Ainge and Zarren. Really makes me think.


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[brackdan70]

This is astoundingly stupid if Boston does this. Why would we outbid ourselves?
What the hell is going to happen when we re-sign Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and after the tax we are paying SMART $26 million or even $39?
What is going to happen when we draft 2 guard studs in the lottery next year and Brad wont play them because SMART has to get his minutes?
What happens when we have to let Horford or Hayward go because due to the repeater tax because Boston is paying SMART $39 million a year.
I just cant fathom this rumor is true.

I appreciate your thoughtful measured reaction. So refreshing.

[Feed Your Head]

This is astoundingly stupid if Boston does this. Why would we outbid ourselves?
What the hell is going to happen when we re-sign Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and after the tax we are paying SMART $26 million or even $39?
What is going to happen when we draft 2 guard studs in the lottery next year and Brad wont play them because SMART has to get his minutes?
What happens when we have to let Horford or Hayward go because due to the repeater tax because Boston is paying SMART $39 million a year.
I just cant fathom this rumor is true.

You should settle down, and brace yourself because it's coming from Woj, Himmelsbach, and yahoo.

[jeremym480]

This is astoundingly stupid if Boston does this. Why would we outbid ourselves?
What the hell is going to happen when we re-sign Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and after the tax we are paying SMART $26 million or even $39? We could trade Smart and/or someone else.
What is going to happen when we draft 2 guard studs in the lottery next year and Brad wont play them because SMART has to get his minutes? We could trade Smart and/or someone else.
What happens when we have to let Horford or Hayward go because due to the repeater tax because Boston is paying SMART $39 million a year. Let Horford go and let Smart could be our starting PF?
I just cant fathom this rumor is true.

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In all seriousness, there's too many variables to answer any of this now. The main ones being what's going on with the salary cap and will Kyrie be in Boston after next season. If he is Smart or Rozier will likely be gone, but if Kyrie jets then there's our PG tandem for 19/20.

Smart at $11-12M a year is a good deal and at the very least a nice trade-able contract to work with in the future. If shoots worse than last season and put shis hand through another picture frame or something stupid like that, then that's cause for concern. But until then can we calm down the the chicken-littling?

[klemen4]

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=11734050115b4f941da6584980907550
Great calculation if Smart first year salary is 10.7 mill, Bird resigned for minimum 1.3 mill, Nader cut and Yabu TRADED.

We would be just under tax line.

I think this is how it's be...only Nader probably cut and stretched...still Yabu will be gone imo.

[m haynes]

Maybe you haven't noticed, but players leave in free agency and when that player leaves, you don't replace him with a cutout of that player. You replace him with other players on your roster. So guarding against that possibility is hardly vomit worthy.

Sorry Tom but thats not how it reads.

Smart can run the offense and with T-Ro's scoring, we should be able to fill that hole.

That like adding a cup of water to a desert and saying we have water hole!

IMO MS has zero offensive game. he would be a complete failure if he played the whole game

If offense was his calling, your desert/cup of water analogy works, but it's not. So maybe he's like a shade in the hot desert. Sure, it's not water, but if you can get water from somewhere else, that shade will do wonders for you.

His shooting is atrocious. I can't defend that. However, you are also wrong, if you think he contributes nothing because of his poor shooting.

Ha Ha Pretty funny Tom. I think his whole offensive game stinks and if he has to be the main guy you are screwed! He can't shoot he can't penetrate and he can't finish at the rim.

[tombattor]

Sorry Tom but thats not how it reads.

That like adding a cup of water to a desert and saying we have water hole!

IMO MS has zero offensive game. he would be a complete failure if he played the whole game

If offense was his calling, your desert/cup of water analogy works, but it's not. So maybe he's like a shade in the hot desert. Sure, it's not water, but if you can get water from somewhere else, that shade will do wonders for you.

His shooting is atrocious. I can't defend that. However, you are also wrong, if you think he contributes nothing because of his poor shooting.

Ha Ha Pretty funny Tom. I think his whole offensive game stinks and if he has to be the main guy you are screwed! He can't shoot he can't penetrate and he can't finish at the rim.

But he's not the main guy. Nor will he be paid like it. You know the main guys in NBA makes $25~40M/yr...

[brackdan70]

I am getting anxious for some details....

[Jaqua92]

4 yr 50 mil? Lol

[tombattor]

This is astoundingly stupid if Boston does this. Why would we outbid ourselves?
What the hell is going to happen when we re-sign Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and after the tax we are paying SMART $26 million or even $39?
What is going to happen when we draft 2 guard studs in the lottery next year and Brad wont play them because SMART has to get his minutes?
What happens when we have to let Horford or Hayward go because due to the repeater tax because Boston is paying SMART $39 million a year.
I just cant fathom this rumor is true.

No one is going to forcefeed Smart minutes if we draft Michael Jordan next year. Calm down.

[m haynes]

Maybe you haven't noticed, but players leave in free agency and when that player leaves, you don't replace him with a cutout of that player. You replace him with other players on your roster. So guarding against that possibility is hardly vomit worthy.

Sorry Tom but thats not how it reads.

Smart can run the offense and with T-Ro's scoring, we should be able to fill that hole.

That like adding a cup of water to a desert and saying we have water hole!

IMO MS has zero offensive game. he would be a complete failure if he played the whole game

Then your opinion is wrong. The team has a better offensive rating when he is on the floor, and that' across a huge sample size.

Ya I read that throughout this forum his offensive stat/rating numbers which is ridicules. Ex I on the (standing at the half court line)court with Bird Magic and Russell my offensive rating would be through the roof!!!

[Iguodaladon]

I'm just gonna trust Ainge on this one, $12m would be the very max I would pay Smart, anything more than that seems like an overpay, but we don't have a bad contract on the books yet and Ainge has been very clever signing players to bargain contracts and avoiding signing good players right now so that we can get great players later, so I give them the benefit of the doubt if we sign Marcus for $44m+

Might also help to have a player earning a mid range type contract like that as well for future trade packages. I just hope this doesn't hinder us keeping this squad together in the future

[Feed Your Head]

4 yr 50 mil? Lol

Yes, great deal if it happens.

[tombattor]

Sorry Tom but thats not how it reads.

That like adding a cup of water to a desert and saying we have water hole!

IMO MS has zero offensive game. he would be a complete failure if he played the whole game

Then your opinion is wrong. The team has a better offensive rating when he is on the floor, and that' across a huge sample size.

Ya I read that throughout this forum his offensive stat/rating numbers which is ridicules. Ex I on the (standing at the half court line)court with Bird Magic and Russell my offensive rating would be through the roof!!!

It would, but those ratings will also show if replacing you with an average NBA player makes that team better. These stats are more comprehensive than you make it seem.

[m haynes]

That is not true at all Marcus Smart has a terrible ORTG because he is bad offensive player, @ 97 he is tied with Ojeleye for the worst among rotation players. For his career he is a slightly better 100. Rozier was a 109 lat season both Smart and Rozier had a 104 Defensive Rating which is very good compared to the rest of the team especially the guards.

The Celtics offensive rating when Smart was in this year was 108.4, was 107.9 when he was off. When terry was in their rating was 106.7, and when he was off it was 109.7.

That doesn't change the fact that Marcus Smart's offensive rating was 97 lets get real folks. Nobody is denying Marcus Smart has an impact but stop trying gaslight us with Marcus Smart and his awful shooting somehow is good for the offense.

I will buy that getting stops and turnovers makes it easier for guys like Tatum and Irving and Rozier to be even better offensive players but accept that this is what his happening and not this idea that Marcus Smart shooting 36% on 20% usage is really good offense that the rest of us are too stupid to appreciate.

Excellent post

[m haynes]

Then your opinion is wrong. The team has a better offensive rating when he is on the floor, and that' across a huge sample size.

Ya I read that throughout this forum his offensive stat/rating numbers which is ridicules. Ex I on the (standing at the half court line)court with Bird Magic and Russell my offensive rating would be through the roof!!!

It would, but those ratings will also show if replacing you with an average NBA player makes that team better. These stats are more comprehensive than you make it seem.

Come on Tom you had a chuckle when you read my comment

[Dogen]

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Plus I like our chances against Golden State better with Smart on the team than without.

If Boogie comes back healthy, Smart is the only PG in the NBA who can handle their 1-5 PnR with a switch. That has to mean something.

If Boogie comes back healthy, it’s likely not going to make much difference how much a PG can switch. That team is a load.

[batabatuta]

They probably decided to overpay him because they need a Kawhi stopper.