Apologize to Masai here

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Masai is so overrated.
He left the Denver as a treadmill team, and he did to Denver what he did to us over 5 years, make a team with a good regular season record that gets handled in the playoffs.

Yet in Masai we trust, for some reason.

cut copy paste seems to be what you are doing in every thread.

he doesn't know ****. he has only one thought. hence the copy and paste.

[SFour]

I've always trusted in Masai...he took the hard road by firing Casey and trading Demar...this is not easy on him. He's is putting his job on the line, he could've easily kept the same team and made the playoffs again.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

if Kawhi comes to Toronto, wins a championship, the Masai haters will still be out in full force. LOL

"but he traded Demar, he deserved that title - that title belongs to Demar, not Kawhi, Fire MAsai for trading our franchise player because he could have won that championship and not Kawhi"

[Young Moosehead]

Masai is so overrated.
He left the Denver as a treadmill team, and he did to Denver what he did to us over 5 years, make a team with a good regular season record that gets handled in the playoffs.

Yet in Masai we trust, for some reason.

What were the raptors up to before masai arrived?

They were a basement team no doubt, but the team has not improved at all for 3 years.

This is the first major move in the whole time period.
Don't see why he deserves any respect tbh.

Any respect? Surely his drafting alone has been more than deserving of respect. The fact that he drafted Siakam, OG, Fred and Delon with the 20th or worse pick alone makes him stand out as a GM. There are teams that have been in the top 20 of the draft over that same period of time and haven't acquired 1/2 that quality or quantity of players.

He managed to get positive value for players who were perceived as having limited value. Bargnani trade was great, Gay trade was good, had the Knicks/Lowry trade gone through it would have been good value (Artest, Shumpert and a Kinicks 1st). DD for Kawhi has the potential to be great, can't say either way yet, but in my books to do it without giving up our highest ceiling prospects means I see it as a win.

He is the only GM that has ever brought a legit MVP level player to this team.

Sure he has made some mistakes. I can acknowledge that his worse habits are bidding against himself, and overpaying to retain mid level talent. But to say he deserves no respect for what he has done? Compare it to BC and his carousel of mediocre, overpaid, underperforming vets. Or compare it Babcock and his selection of bust after bust despite having so many lottery picks. He definitely deserves more respect than he has received.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Im sorry for saying you were a fraud

Need a Homer SImpson with a Masai's a fraud shirt walking back into the bushes gif here.

[marcwagz]

Masai is so overrated.
He left the Denver as a treadmill team, and he did to Denver what he did to us over 5 years, make a team with a good regular season record that gets handled in the playoffs.

Yet in Masai we trust, for some reason.

cut copy paste seems to be what you are doing in every thread.

he doesn't know ****. he has only one thought. hence the copy and paste.

You are the worst kind of fan, the "blind defender"
Yet you bash on me for being a critical thinker.

[WuTang_CMB]

im not apologizing cuz iv been very impressed with what he's done in 5 years.

All the dumb idiots on this forum who dont know anything should be apologizing then deleting their accounts

[KL78192020]

Masai is done evaluating. Casey and Demar out.

[mrdressup]

Masai is really good at cleaning out the crap that obviously doesn't fit. He has always identified it and dealt with it. Only JV has survived his urge to purge.

[lebron stopper]

cut copy paste seems to be what you are doing in every thread.

he doesn't know ****. he has only one thought. hence the copy and paste.

You are the worst kind of fan, the "blind defender"
Yet you bash on me for being a critical thinker.

*Contrarian thinker

[Johnny Bball]

Anyone that used the word evaluating, said he doesn't take risks, questioned his balls like it was some peer pressure thing that a child would respond to, wanted him to make knee jerk reactions, couldn't see that the team he built was improving every year, called it BC's core only. Pretty much all of those people were clueless.

[Tanner]

I’ve said before Masai is a great drafter but has come up short in everything else the past couple of years. He has redeemed himself with this move. Either try to be really good or really bad, and finally he’s chosen one of the extremes without sacrificing any of his best young players. He’s back (for now).

[VanWest82]

Who thinks Obama was there with Masai going through all the updates with him as they happened? Can't wait for the behind the scenes stuff for this trade to come out.

[Boogie!]

I've always trusted in Masai...he took the hard road by firing Casey and trading Demar...this is not easy on him. He's is putting his job on the line, he could've easily kept the same team and made the playoffs again.

And been eliminated in the second round again.

Th is is only the hard round from the sense of media backlash and "loyalty" nonsense. From a basketball standpoint this was a no brainer. At least we know now that Masai wasn't lying when he said we will not be stuck in no man's land and that championship is the goal. If he had kept demar and casey and continued with this same team for the next few years then I wouldve been let down.

But this off-season has proved that he's for real. I fully trust in his basketball vision and iq.

[HiMyNameIsTrey]

Apologize for what? This trade has huge bust potential.

This trade is an absolute win-win for us. If Kawhi (unlikely) re-ups we just stole a top 5 superstar. If he leaves we still have pretty much all our young prospects (sans Yak) and dumped Demar's contract. If Kawhi is healthy and playing at even 80% we have a really good shot at the Finals. If it's not working out we can explore trades midseason and get additional assets. I'm treating it like a Derozan salary dump with the added bonus of renting Kawhi **** Leonard. It's an amazing deal.

[C_Money]

Apologize for what? This trade has huge bust potential.

This trade is an absolute win-win for us. If Kawhi (unlikely) re-ups we just stole a top 5 superstar. If he leaves we still have pretty much all our young prospects (sans Yak) and dumped Demar's contract. If Kawhi is healthy and playing at even 80% we have a really good shot at the Finals. If it's not working out we can explore trades midseason and get additional assets. I'm treating it like a Derozan salary dump with the added bonus of renting Kawhi **** Leonard. It's an amazing deal.

I’m not interested in rebuilding. So the “young prospects” who haven’t proven anything doesn't excite me too much.

[Anatomize]

He's one of the best GMs in the league and has been since we got him. Every GM is going to have some blemishes, Carroll flourished on BKN, if Casey had a proper offensive system and Carroll was healthy it's possible he could've at least been a very solid contributor for us (he had career stats this past season). Some of the deals he's handed out haven't been great (Powell for example), but then he finds gems like FVV and Siakam and all is forgivable.

He's had quite a few heists trade wise, yes we gave up DeMar but any time you can give up an allstar for a Western conference superstar you do it hands down, and on top of it he got an expiring deal in one of the best 3+D wings in the entire league. We've now become a team that can actually compete for a championship, which is amazing. No matter how well our previous core did, it's a horrible feeling that once you reach the playoffs you're not even confident you can beat lesser teams, no #1 seed should have to feel that way if they're a true #1 seed.

July 10, 2013:

Toronto Trades: Andrea Bargnani

Toronto Receives: Marcus Camby, Steve Novak, Quentin Richardson, 2014 second round pick, 2016 first round draft pick (lower between New York and Denver), and a 2017 second round pick


December 9, 2013:

Toronto Trades: Quincy Acy, Rudy Gay, and Aaron Gray

Toronto Receives: Chuck Hayes, Patrick Patterson, John Salmons, and Greivis Vasquez


June 29, 2014:

Toronto Trades: John Salmons

Toronto Receives: Lucas Nogueira and Lou Williams



June 25, 2015:

Toronto Trades: Greivis Vasquez

Toronto Receives: Norman Powell and a 2017 first round pick


July 18, 2018:

Toronto Trades: DeMar DeRozan, Poeltl, top 20 protected 1st round pick (if not in top 20 within 1 year, it becomes 2 second round picks)

Toronto Receives: Kawhi Leonard (expiring), Danny Green (expiring)


These deals are just amazing. He regularly receives solid players/expiring contracts/prospects/picks back for guys who aren't even in the league anymore. I mean he traded John Salmons for one of the best 6th men in the history of the NBA in Lou Williams and still managed to also get a prospect in Bebe.

Yes he's sat tight the past few years because we kept winning during the regular season, but this was just another fantastic deal to put on his resume.

I've never really had an issue with him outside of taking a little too long these past few years to pull the trigger, but hey, at least he's showing us he's willing to go all out and listen to our demands as fans, and he shows he has a commitment to winning a championship, that's as much as you can ask your GM for outside of complete competency (because god knows our previous GMs were some of the most incompetent people ever).

[Raps in 4]

I'm glad he finally did something. But I'll reserve judgement on this deal until next year. Whether or not he re-signs Kawhi or manages to S&T him will determine the success or failure of this trade for me.

If Kawhi walks and we get nothing for him, it will mean Masai had traded Yak + a 1st round pick to dump Demar's contract (which he gave out); basically a higher profile Demarre Carroll situation.

If we re-sign Kawhi, this becomes the best move in franchise history.

If we sign and trade him for assets (like Ingram or Kuzma), it becomes a positive move where we dumped Demar's contract and swapped or upgraded prospects.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

cut copy paste seems to be what you are doing in every thread.

he doesn't know ****. he has only one thought. hence the copy and paste.

You are the worst kind of fan, the "blind defender"
Yet you bash on me for being a critical thinker.

“Critical” ha. No one thinks you’re critically thinking here.

[maternal85]

You can really see who only became Raptor fans in the we the North era.

THANK YOU !! The ignorance can be too much. "Old school" raptor fans who use to watch them at the skydome (not rogers centre) on city tv, with barney across the chest know the real deal. These new "we the north" kids can be annoying at times. We finally have a competent GM with guts, who's not settling for anything less than a championship. High risk, high rewards. I like that method. Lebron James is not knocking at the door begging to sign with us folks. If K Leonard leaves then the rebuild officially starts with DD contract off the books. But I guarantee you MU will flip K Leonard into something if he leaves in a sign and trade. KL camp won't let him leave that much money on the table, a sign and trade will be done. I respect and Love DD. But doing something over and over again, while expecting a different result is simply insanity. After back to back sweep to the cavs, which we should have won this year, MU again made it clear; anyone can get it. MU is making it clear, if you do not produce or play up to expectation, your days will be numbered in Toronto. We've never had such a GM here, NEVER. Most GM's wouldn't fire a coach of the year and trade their "franchise" player away in the same year just based out of fear. MU did it within a week. Salute to MU. Even our ex coach Casey basically said he liked the trade.