Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. "He works hard for the money" Agrees to 4 year 52$ million deal page 32

[djFan71]

$32,658 beyond being able to dodge the tax by giving away Yabusele.

$29,772 if Nader is sucessfully given away with cash and Bird is signed.

Hard for me to believe it's actually an exact 4/52, if those are the kinds of tiny margins we're talking about. You really can't tweak it by 30k to give yourself much greater flexibility?

4/51.86 is all it would have taken.


Edit: Whoops, off by an order of magnitude. 300k, not 30k. Still hard to understand how they couldn't have settled at 4/50.5

I gotta imagine this is rounding in reporting, right? Not everyone, esp in the media, is quite as picky about these things. Even the tweet says "around $11.6M". So, I'm sure we have that wiggle room. Zarren is definitely one of the picky ones.

I think the margin is actually too large for it to be lack of precision. 4/50.5 would not likely get announced as 4/52.

It partially makes me think that Ainge still expects to be active enough on the trade market that he's just not bothered about tiptoeing around too carefully.

Whoops, yeahs, I didn't expand $300K + 8% out 4 years for the total difference. Was thinking "around 11.6M" could be off by your original 30k-ish, then didn't readjust for your order of magnitude. Oh well, I guess either a) they don't care about starting the tax, b) we're hearing wrong numbers, c) someone else may be in the Yabs/Nader dump group (seems unlikely), or d) stay on trade alert!

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Wow. He's the type of player I'd like to have around because most championship teams need that dog, but 13 mil with that kind of trash a** offense? Idk about that

The offense is better with him on the court. Plus it becomes a very tradeable contract if someone like AD becomes available. There's a reason o Connor and others are saying it's a good deal for both sides.

People complained that AB's deal was an overpay as well, but just like with that deal, Danny is just ahead of the curve with the rising cap.

Fair enough, but let's not take the point too far. When the Cs finally traded Bradley's contract, they didn't get a great return for it.

[ConstableGeneva]

Godfather-approved signing...

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[Scoonie]

The more incentives the better, whether it be for body fat or performance.

[djFan71]

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Just in case anyone else is wondering: http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q74

In the first season of a contract the base salary, likely bonuses and unlikely bonuses must all fit within the salary cap or exception.

[Baller1234a]

Dump Yabu Waive and Stretch Nader Sign Bird to min gets us to 408k into the tax. Looks like the move is to trade Morris.

[captain green]

Pfft smart better learn to shoot otherwise this is a huge over pay and potential depth depletion.
We had leverage and pissed it away. No team was going to pay him that even if unrestricted.
Bad move

[Feed Your Head]

Godfather-approved signing...

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How many times was Smarts name the first words out of Horfords mouth in post games this year? Brad and Al are CEO's of the Smart fan club.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Its possible we just pay the tax— it may be a bad look to Kyrie to dump a usefull player to cheap out on the tax in the future.

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[Valid]

Pfft smart better learn to shoot otherwise this is a huge over pay and potential depth depletion.
We had leverage and pissed it away. No team was going to pay him that even if unrestricted.
Bad move

Yeah because I'm sure you know more than the best GM in the league. lol.

[VeryMuchWoke]

Its possible we just pay the tax— it may be a bad look to Kyrie to dump a useful player to cheap out on the tax in the future.

The only thing that makes me think we won't pay the tax is that we didn't give Smart a declining deal. If it's a given we're paying the tax this year, we should have just paid him 14M this year and made him more tradeable.

[SMTBSI]

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I'm absolutely baffled. Doing something just slightly other than the standard 8% raises - first year salary off by 54k.

They must have a reason to do this. It's a tiny adjustment to make for absolutely no reason.

There's got to be some way it fits in with either something they plan to do, or how the other salaries on the team change in the coming seasons.

Crap. I've got some work ahead of me.

[meatball sub]

Maybe he'll play more within his limitations now that he's not chasing a contract? If he shoots less or shoots at a higher percentage then this deal may not turn out to be a problem. Just shoot less, Marcus. You got paid, now please shoot less.

[rickrolled]

What if Smarts "very tradable" contract isnt so tradable a year from now?

What superstar will be available? Dont even say AD he aint coming to Boston.

Teams trading their superstar would like expiring contracts, not someone owed 3/40 and is a one way player that doesnt think Any shot is a bad shot?

Don't worry. If we are trying trading for AD, Smart won't be the one holding us back. It will be whether we want to send both Tatum and Brown, on top of whatever else they are asking for.

I get that, but that 3/40 left would make no sense for a rebuilding team cause we need that 12-13 million in salary out.

What if Smarts "very tradable" contract isnt so tradable a year from now?

What superstar will be available? Dont even say AD he aint coming to Boston.

Teams trading their superstar would like expiring contracts, not someone owed 3/40 and is a one way player that doesnt think Any shot is a bad shot?

Not sure I understand this question here: What if it isn't? What if it is?

What superstar will be available? Who knows. That's how these league works. You never know.

Right. Don't say PG is staying in OKC. Don't say the Spurs are trading Kawhi. Don't say.......

If we don't trade Marcus, well I guess he plays then. Seeing as how will be still paying him to play.

The former what if it isn't tradable. Why would anyone take on that if they trade a superstar and are rebuilding, makes no sense, then we'd have to send more assets to a 3rd team to unload him.

[Edug27]

Maybe he'll play more within his limitations now that he's not chasing a contract? If he shoots less or shoots at a higher percentage then this deal may not turn out to be a problem. Just shoot less, Marcus. You got paid, now please shoot less.

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I'm absolutely baffled. Doing something just slightly other than the standard 8% raises - first year salary off by 54k.

They must have a reason to do this. It's a tiny adjustment to make for absolutely no reason.

There's got to be some way it fits in with either something they plan to do, or how the other salaries on the team change in the coming seasons.

Crap. I've got some work ahead of me.

Fark.

As of right now we're over the tax line by 3.047746

Rozier makes 3.050390


That can't be it, but it's quite coincidental.

[SmartWentCrazy]

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I'm absolutely baffled. Doing something just slightly other than the standard 8% raises - first year salary off by 54k.

They must have a reason to do this. It's a tiny adjustment to make for absolutely no reason.

There's got to be some way it fits in with either something they plan to do, or how the other salaries on the team change in the coming seasons.

Crap. I've got some work ahead of me.

Fark.

As of right now we're over the tax line by 3.047746

Rozier makes 3.050390


That can't be it, but it's quite coincidental.

Hmmm. Who needs a PG? Phoenix? Orlando? Anyone else?

[captain green]

Pfft smart better learn to shoot otherwise this is a huge over pay and potential depth depletion.
We had leverage and pissed it away. No team was going to pay him that even if unrestricted.
Bad move

Yeah because I'm sure you know more than the best GM in the league. lol.

I know it's a bad deal don't have to be an expert to know that. What is the upside to overpaying when we had leverage? Where is the upside to losing depth? Where is the upside to being a tax repeater now ? And finally what is the upside to his game improving?

[tombattor]

Trading players in the last year of their deal never works out that way. They don’t get huge returns like Tatum and Brown.

When was the last time you saw a guy at the level of AD at his age getting traded? Never. So it's not going to happen. But if it did, it will take a king's ransom. Don't even tell me about Kawhi or PG because neither is close to AD's level. If we ever were trading for AD, we have to at least include Tatum or Brown. Most likely both. Unless they have become superstars by then themselves.

Again, IF AD is ever to be traded, it'll be because the Pelicans fear he'll opt out of the last year of his deal and walk. Whether it gets that far is anyones guess. But if a trade were to ever take place, that'll be the reason. So they'll either go the OKC route with KD... or try and move him before it gets that far. He'll be 26 in 2019, when they'll try to move him in this scenario.

Kawhi right now just turned 27.
Paul George was 26 when traded.
Kevin Love was 25.
Chris Paul was 26.
Dwight was 26.
Kyrie was 25.

But none of those guys were projected to be the best player in the league.