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Melo will be a good fit here. He's not done. He stayed healthy last year, fit well defensively, and they were overall better when he was on the court. they trying to appease Paul George in a contract year and let him lead their bench. But Carmelo Anthony was far better in that role. For the most part he didn't really show decline physically. The numbers are the same generally as the year before. He took my fire career high in threes out of necessity, many of which she had to pick up off his ankles from poor passes from Westbrook and George.... which they only would do when they couldn't score themselves.
Their biggest problems were lack of systems and adjustments. They switched everything and blame Melo because teams would attack him, but what seems mostly took advantage of was the guards that switched with him in the paint. Melo could force misses and they would get offensive rebounds and score. Or he could drive the ball handler into the paint and no big was there to actually help defend the rim. Yet they would make no adjustments.
Offensively it was just a mess because Donovan had no system. That's in large because Westbrook can't fit into one. when they started the allowing for Melo, George, and Russell to take the same amount of shots. Melo out performed them. He took a back seat in a Chris Bosh role, but they never developed anything to get the best out of all of them. Hence all three of them have very inefficient shooting numbers.
He never really wanted to go to OKC. Westbrook and George being there of course helped, but it's clear that the Rockets was a better fit for him. and truth be told I think having a player like him there after Paul went down could have gotten them over the hump.
Melo will bounce back. For one he's always play well with strong playmakers like Paul and Harden. Both have infinitely larger basketball IQs than a Russell Westbrook. This is also essentially the system that he was Olympic Melo in, and he's familiar with it from New York.
It will be a good pickup for you guys, and I think make you more versatile. perhaps is better this time because he will have a better understanding of what his role should be. Of course he wants more one-on-one opportunities. But he is working on being a better spot-up shooter to prolong his career. Plus you won't have all that fanfare as if it was a huge big three. Less pressure.
Their biggest problems were lack of systems and adjustments. They switched everything and blame Melo because teams would attack him, but what seems mostly took advantage of was the guards that switched with him in the paint. Melo could force misses and they would get offensive rebounds and score. Or he could drive the ball handler into the paint and no big was there to actually help defend the rim. Yet they would make no adjustments.
Offensively it was just a mess because Donovan had no system. That's in large because Westbrook can't fit into one. when they started the allowing for Melo, George, and Russell to take the same amount of shots. Melo out performed them. He took a back seat in a Chris Bosh role, but they never developed anything to get the best out of all of them. Hence all three of them have very inefficient shooting numbers.
He never really wanted to go to OKC. Westbrook and George being there of course helped, but it's clear that the Rockets was a better fit for him. and truth be told I think having a player like him there after Paul went down could have gotten them over the hump.
Melo will bounce back. For one he's always play well with strong playmakers like Paul and Harden. Both have infinitely larger basketball IQs than a Russell Westbrook. This is also essentially the system that he was Olympic Melo in, and he's familiar with it from New York.
It will be a good pickup for you guys, and I think make you more versatile. perhaps is better this time because he will have a better understanding of what his role should be. Of course he wants more one-on-one opportunities. But he is working on being a better spot-up shooter to prolong his career. Plus you won't have all that fanfare as if it was a huge big three. Less pressure.
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M2J wrote:Melo will be a good fit here. He's not done. He stayed healthy last year, fit well defensively, and they were overall better when he was on the court. they trying to appease Paul George in a contract year and let him lead their bench. But Carmelo Anthony was far better in that role. For the most part he didn't really show decline physically. The numbers are the same generally as the year before. He took my fire career high in threes out of necessity, many of which she had to pick up off his ankles from poor passes from Westbrook and George.... which they only would do when they couldn't score themselves.
Their biggest problems were lack of systems and adjustments. They switched everything and blame Melo because teams would attack him, but what seems mostly took advantage of was the guards that switched with him in the paint. Melo could force misses and they would get offensive rebounds and score. Or he could drive the ball handler into the paint and no big was there to actually help defend the rim. Yet they would make no adjustments.
Offensively it was just a mess because Donovan had no system. That's in large because Westbrook can't fit into one. when they started the allowing for Melo, George, and Russell to take the same amount of shots. Melo out performed them. He took a back seat in a Chris Bosh role, but they never developed anything to get the best out of all of them. Hence all three of them have very inefficient shooting numbers.
He never really wanted to go to OKC. Westbrook and George being there of course helped, but it's clear that the Rockets was a better fit for him. and truth be told I think having a player like him there after Paul went down could have gotten them over the hump.
Melo will bounce back. For one he's always play well with strong playmakers like Paul and Harden. Both have infinitely larger basketball IQs than a Russell Westbrook. This is also essentially the system that he was Olympic Melo in, and he's familiar with it from New York.
It will be a good pickup for you guys, and I think make you more versatile. perhaps is better this time because he will have a better understanding of what his role should be. Of course he wants more one-on-one opportunities. But he is working on being a better spot-up shooter to prolong his career. Plus you won't have all that fanfare as if it was a huge big three. Less pressure.
I feel like you’re traderwest, just going the opposite of what you usually do
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Be wary of placing too much stock in the OKC experiment.
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Mil signed Trevon Duval to a 2 way deal. He played well for our SL team but no room with Melton and the MCW signing.
Duval was rated higher than Collin Sexton coming out of high school and went to the better college but a year later Sexton was the 8th overall pick while Duval went undrafted.
Duval was rated higher than Collin Sexton coming out of high school and went to the better college but a year later Sexton was the 8th overall pick while Duval went undrafted.
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texasholdem wrote:Mil signed Trevon Duval to a 2 way deal. He played well for our SL team but no room with Melton and the MCW signing.
Duval was rated higher than Collin Sexton coming out of high school and went to the better college but a year later Sexton was the 8th overall pick while Duval went undrafted.
from what i heard
he played well in the first game and not much after that
rank 6th in the nation out of high school
went to one of the top NCAA basketball school and play for one of the greatest NCAA coach of all time
then wen undrafted
he must be really bad
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MaxRider wrote:texasholdem wrote:Mil signed Trevon Duval to a 2 way deal. He played well for our SL team but no room with Melton and the MCW signing.
Duval was rated higher than Collin Sexton coming out of high school and went to the better college but a year later Sexton was the 8th overall pick while Duval went undrafted.
from what i heard
he played well in the first game and not much after that
rank 6th in the nation out of high school
went to one of the top NCAA basketball school and play for one of the greatest NCAA coach of all time
then wen undrafted
he must be really bad
He also had 12 pts,3 assists in only 14 minutes vs the Clippers in SL so he had more than one good game. His shot isn't very good but he's very good at getting to the rim. I just found it interesting a difference a year makes. He had 20 pts and 6 assists vs Kansas in the Elite 8 this past March but Duke lost.
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C - Capela (RFA), Nene, Hartenstein, Onuaku
PF - Tucker, Anderson, Zhou
SF- Anthony, Ennis, Green
SG - Harden, Gordon, Melton (draft right)
PG - Paul, Carter-Williams
two-way - Edwards, Adel???
without any trade, this probably look like our roster
PF - Tucker, Anderson, Zhou
SF- Anthony, Ennis, Green
SG - Harden, Gordon, Melton (draft right)
PG - Paul, Carter-Williams
two-way - Edwards, Adel???
without any trade, this probably look like our roster
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I would have liked to have signed Vince Carter, really, if only to be able to say, “We have James Harden, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, and Vince Carter on the Rockets.”
Also he can shoot 3’s really well and is usually good for a few throwback dunks a year.
Oh well.
Also he can shoot 3’s really well and is usually good for a few throwback dunks a year.
Oh well.
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He can be waived at any time so it's no sure thing, but they signed Gary Clark right after the draft to be a two way guy and held him out of SL when his injury wasn't that bad, unless he really disappoints in camp I'd imagine he gets a spot thereMaxRider wrote:C - Capela (RFA), Nene, Hartenstein, Onuaku
PF - Tucker, Anderson, Zhou
SF- Anthony, Ennis, Green
SG - Harden, Gordon, Melton (draft right)
PG - Paul, Carter-Williams
two-way - Edwards, Adel???
without any trade, this probably look like our roster
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K_chile22 wrote:He can be waived at any time so it's no sure thing, but they signed Gary Clark right after the draft to be a two way guy and held him out of SL when his injury wasn't that bad, unless he really disappoints in camp I'd imagine he gets a spot thereMaxRider wrote:C - Capela (RFA), Nene, Hartenstein, Onuaku
PF - Tucker, Anderson, Zhou
SF- Anthony, Ennis, Green
SG - Harden, Gordon, Melton (draft right)
PG - Paul, Carter-Williams
two-way - Edwards, Adel???
without any trade, this probably look like our roster
undraftee usually sign not 100% guaranteed contract, so it's nothing big
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“OKC had bad FIT.”
- Melo
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250839/Carmelo-Anthony-Oklahoma-City-Wasnt-A-Good-Fit
- Melo
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250839/Carmelo-Anthony-Oklahoma-City-Wasnt-A-Good-Fit
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Yeah I know, it's probably 0% guaranteed, just saying he has the inside track. Adel would have to over perform and he would have to under performMaxRider wrote:K_chile22 wrote:He can be waived at any time so it's no sure thing, but they signed Gary Clark right after the draft to be a two way guy and held him out of SL when his injury wasn't that bad, unless he really disappoints in camp I'd imagine he gets a spot thereMaxRider wrote:C - Capela (RFA), Nene, Hartenstein, Onuaku
PF - Tucker, Anderson, Zhou
SF- Anthony, Ennis, Green
SG - Harden, Gordon, Melton (draft right)
PG - Paul, Carter-Williams
two-way - Edwards, Adel???
without any trade, this probably look like our roster
undraftee usually sign not 100% guaranteed contract, so it's nothing big
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moofs wrote:“OKC had bad FIT.”
- Melo
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250839/Carmelo-Anthony-Oklahoma-City-Wasnt-A-Good-Fit
I mean...I've never been a fan of Melo, and I'm still not convinced about him despite it being worth a shot due to basically not giving up anything in the process. I also don't disagree that this is a better situation for him than OKC, mainly due to his good pal Paul being here running the show. If he can't be effective with him and Harden then he probably doesn't have a place in the league anymore.
We all saw how everyone was so certain Paul and Harden wouldn't FIT together, and how wrong they were...I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic about how Melo will FIT in. I think Paul is going to earn that paycheck this year keeping him in line and in the best situation for success.
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moofs wrote:“OKC had bad FIT.”
- Melo
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250839/Carmelo-Anthony-Oklahoma-City-Wasnt-A-Good-Fit
He will be just fine here.

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ReFIT
I like it!
I like it!
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