OT: Melo signs with Rockets

FinallyImHere · Post #21 » by **FinallyImHere** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:16 pm

What a joke of an offseason, Rockets fans I hope you enjoyed these last two years of playoffs runs.

To think that people actually thought Daryl Morey was better than Danny Ainge.

Bologna Smasher · Post #22 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:16 pm

spicy6 wrote:
Bologna Smasher wrote:I think he should work out a lot better on the Rockets this year and than he did with the Thunder. He actually fills a need on this roster. Almost anything is an upgrade to how Ryan Anderson played last year.

Tucker is the starting PF not anderson. Unless you think melo starts at sf (which is a bad idea) I dont know what need this fills unless its bench scoring which should help the rockets.

I think they move Tucker back to SF this year and have Carmelo start at PF. Tucker filled in nicely there last year, but I wouldn't want him playing so many minutes there again due to his lack of height. Carmelo obviously isn't going to improve a defense, but his extra length should help somewhat.

nbafan38 · Post #23 » by **nbafan38** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:21 pm

I know every likes to rag on Melo but for the veterans minimum it's not a bad pickup

OdomFan · Post #24 » by **OdomFan** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:28 pm

If Chris Paul can't help him improve no one can.

Scalabrine · Post #25 » by **Scalabrine** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:31 pm

Capela/Nene/Anderson
Melo/Anderson/Tucker
Tucker/Melo/Ennis/Green
Harden/Gordon/Green
Paul/Harden/MCW

Still don't see why people would want to bring Melo off the bench in favor of Ryan Anderson or James Ennis. It's not like either of those guys are lockdown defenders... Melo will be better then he was last year with this team. The style of play suits him way more.

Post #26 » by **THE J0KER** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:31 pm

letsgorockets wrote:I don't mind Melo on the minimum, if acts up or causes any grief, cut him. Not biggie, it's some reward and no risk. My question is if Melo was willing to accept the min, why the **** did we let Moute walk when we have the tax MLE still in hand!? I hope Morey has a move in mind, or that just makes no **** sense.

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Maybe FO is prepared to be in a position to match some unexpected Capela offer scenario.

king_james_vers · Post #27 » by **king_james_vers** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:32 pm

John Murdoch wrote:How is this OT?

Because Melo isn't a real basketball player anymore.

Noctilux · Post #28 » by **Noctilux** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:33 pm

How much is Melo paying the Rockets to play for them?

king_james_vers · Post #29 » by **king_james_vers** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:36 pm

THE J0KER wrote:I can't understand why people complaining about Melo coming to Rockets even now when he agrees to play for the veteran minimum, and Ariza (and Mbah a Moute) left Houston!?

Houston team is stronger today than yesterday for sure, but Capela case is more important for their 2018-19 season.

I think Melo is a good pickup at the vet min; he does have modest upside.

However, Melo is now 34, and will be 35 by next postseason. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's a complete non-factor. I could totally see this ending up like Joe Johnson.

Not a bad signing, but just not something to get excited about at this point. It's okay though, these are the types of players teams should fill out their roster with.

letsgorockets · Post #30 » by **letsgorockets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:39 pm

THE J0KER wrote:
letsgorockets wrote:I don't mind Melo on the minimum, if acts up or causes any grief, cut him. Not biggie, it's some reward and no risk. My question is if Melo was willing to accept the min, why the **** did we let Moute walk when we have the tax MLE still in hand!? I hope Morey has a move in mind, or that just makes no **** sense.

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Maybe FO is prepared to be in a position to match some unexpected Capela offer scenario.

From where though? We already have, reportedly, $17/season on the table. Sacramento used up too much of their cap to beat that, Atlanta used up it's cap taking bad contracts/assets, and Chicago used theirs up on Lavine/Parker. There's no one out there with big, scary money left. I thought surely we were holding the tax MLE for Melo, and that's why we lost Moute. Now I know that's not the case, if Morey doesn't have something up his sleeve, I'm gonna be pissed. This is starting to sink of cost control, and the new owner better open up that wallet real wide, or get the **** outta town.

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MelosSoreWrist · Post #31 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:40 pm

Scalabrine wrote:Capela/Nene/Anderson
Melo/Anderson/Tucker
Tucker/Melo/Ennis/Green
Harden/Gordon/Green
Paul/Harden/MCW

Still don't see why people would want to bring Melo off the bench in favor of Ryan Anderson or James Ennis. It's not like either of those guys are lockdown defenders... Melo will be better then he was last year with this team. The style of play suits him way more.

In what way does the style of play in Houston fit better with him? I'm asking a genuine question. Melo likes to iso with the ball. Houston's offensive gameplan is having either Harden or Paul with the ball for 20 sec in every possession. Melo would be a spot up 3 point shooter in the corner in this offense. He hated that in DAntoni's offense in NY. Hated that in OKC. Now here he is again.

Red_Bird · Post #32 » by **Red_Bird** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:40 pm

FinallyImHere wrote:What a joke of an offseason, Rockets fans I hope you enjoyed these last two years of playoffs runs.

To think that people actually thought Daryl Morey was better than Danny Ainge.

Lol, signing Melo for the vet min doesn't jeopardize the Rockets in the playoffs. If he stinks it up, they can easily cut him.

Hubert44 · Post #33 » by **Hubert44** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:41 pm

Remember Iverson in Detroit? This'll be like that.

MaxRider · Post #34 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:42 pm

letsgorockets wrote:I don't mind Melo on the minimum, if acts up or causes any grief, cut him. Not biggie, it's some reward and no risk. My question is if Melo was willing to accept the min, why the **** did we let Moute walk when we have the tax MLE still in hand!? I hope Morey has a move in mind, or that just makes no **** sense.

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because Morey love to use MLE to sign second rounders
seem like he is saving it for Melton and Hartenstein

TimRobbins · Post #35 » by **TimRobbins** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:42 pm

letsgorockets wrote:I don't mind Melo on the minimum, if acts up or causes any grief, cut him. Not biggie, it's some reward and no risk. My question is if Melo was willing to accept the min, why the **** did we let Moute walk when we have the tax MLE still in hand!? I hope Morey has a move in mind, or that just makes no **** sense.

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Melo was bought out. He has no incentive to take more than the minimum.

RoyceDa59 · Post #36 » by **RoyceDa59** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:43 pm

If he comes off the Bench I think he can be a valuable addition for them. If he demands to start and stifles their ball movement in exchange for inefficient iso-scoring, while playing no defense, it will make them much worse.

I hope for Houston's sake it's the former. Melo is a bench player at this point in his career.

MaxRider · Post #37 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:46 pm

MelosSoreWrist wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:Capela/Nene/Anderson
Melo/Anderson/Tucker
Tucker/Melo/Ennis/Green
Harden/Gordon/Green
Paul/Harden/MCW

Still don't see why people would want to bring Melo off the bench in favor of Ryan Anderson or James Ennis. It's not like either of those guys are lockdown defenders... Melo will be better then he was last year with this team. The style of play suits him way more.

In what way does the style of play in Houston fit better with him? I'm asking a genuine question. Melo likes to iso with the ball. Houston's offensive gameplan is having either Harden or Paul with the ball for 20 sec in every possession. Melo would be a spot up 3 point shooter in the corner in this offense. He hated that in DAntoni's offense in NY. Hated that in OKC. Now here he is again.

you said it yourself, Houston iso 80% of the time, they just added a player love to iso, fit perfectly :lol:

letsgorockets · Post #38 » by **letsgorockets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:47 pm

TimRobbins wrote:
letsgorockets wrote:I don't mind Melo on the minimum, if acts up or causes any grief, cut him. Not biggie, it's some reward and no risk. My question is if Melo was willing to accept the min, why the **** did we let Moute walk when we have the tax MLE still in hand!? I hope Morey has a move in mind, or that just makes no **** sense.

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Melo was bought out. He has no incentive to take more than the minimum.

Maybe so, but that's not the issue. I'm happy Melo took the min. Maybe it's a sign he'll swallow some ego to make this work, at least I hope so. The issue is why the hell didn't we match the Clippers offer? We had the exception sitting there. I get not paying Ariza $15 million, that's crazy money, but Moute for $4-5 million? That's a great deal, and we let him walk.

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MaxRider · Post #39 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:48 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:If he comes off the Bench I think he can be a valuable addition for them. If he demands to start and stifles their ball movement in exchange for inefficient iso-scoring, while playing no defense, it will make them much worse.

I hope for Houston's sake it's the former. Melo is a bench player at this point in his career.

i don't care he start or reserve
the important part is who play the most min
CP3 start, but go to the bench after 4 min and return 4 min later
Morey said it perfectly
season opening roster =/= playoff roster
there is still trade deadline to make changes

Scalabrine · Post #40 » by **Scalabrine** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:51 pm

MelosSoreWrist wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:Capela/Nene/Anderson
Melo/Anderson/Tucker
Tucker/Melo/Ennis/Green
Harden/Gordon/Green
Paul/Harden/MCW

Still don't see why people would want to bring Melo off the bench in favor of Ryan Anderson or James Ennis. It's not like either of those guys are lockdown defenders... Melo will be better then he was last year with this team. The style of play suits him way more.

In what way does the style of play in Houston fit better with him? I'm asking a genuine question. Melo likes to iso with the ball. Houston's offensive gameplan is having either Harden or Paul with the ball for 20 sec in every possession. Melo would be a spot up 3 point shooter in the corner in this offense. He hated that in DAntoni's offense in NY. Hated that in OKC. Now here he is again.

He wasn't that in D'Antonis offense in NY. What are you talking about?

Also, D'antonis offense is completely different then it was in NY. Now he plays ISO ball and exploits mismatches. That's Melos game right there! OKC wants Russ to get the rebound and push, Melo is more of a half court player. Paul and Harden are also much better passers then Westbrook and George. They look to get guys opportunities way more then Westbrook who only really wants to pass if hes getting an assist.