OT: Melo signs with Rockets

[Capn'O]

How is this OT?

Meant to post it on our board, I'd reckon.

[BallerTalk]

A year late but $26 million cheaper, I'll take it!

Good lookin' out OKC (and Atlanta).


Run It Back!!!

[Wolfgang630]

Good to see everyone in here ignored the Melo lover post lol.

Let’s see if melo will come off the bench. Hahaha

[Rotten Apple]

Good to see everyone in here ignored the Melo lover post lol.

Let’s see if melo will come off the bench. Hahaha

You clearly didn't ignore it. Cant believe you still a clown.

[Rotten Apple]

VS the Warriors last year with the Thunder.

105.4 ORTG-88.8 DRTG W
115.6 ORTG-97.9 DRTG W- only played 6 minutes before getting injured.
113.5 ORTG-106.8 DRTG L
77.6 ORTG-117.3 DRTG L

Positive net rating in 2 of 3 games in which he played huge minutes vs the Warriors and this is a Melo who wasn't used properly at all last year outside of the first 6 games of the season when he was mostly paired with Felton. This notion that "who's he gonna guard" is ridiculous.

Ariza for comparison

Regular Season
107.3 ORTG-121.4 DRTG W
104.9 ORTG-116.5 DRTG L

Playoffs
G1- 97.7 ORTG-119.3 DRTG L
G2- 126.9 ORTG-100.2 DRTG W
G3- 95.3 ORTG-130.7 DRTG L
G4- 103.8 ORTG-107.5 DRTG W
G5- 96.8 ORTG-96.2 DRTG W
G6- 92.0 ORTG-115.6 DRTG L
G7- 87.1 ORTG-108.5 DRTG L

Everyone loves ORTG and DRTG until BOOM...this happens.

"Advanced stats show"- RealGM

[XxIronChainzxX]

I can't understand why people complaining about Melo coming to Rockets even now when he agrees to play for the veteran minimum, and Ariza (and Mbah a Moute) left Houston!?

Houston team is stronger today than yesterday for sure, but Capela case is more important for their 2018-19 season.

Melo will be BBQ chicken for the Dubs every time he steps on the court. Utah feasted on him, and while they have some elite talent ala Mitchell, the Dubs are on another level.

[F N 11]

I think he should work out a lot better on the Rockets this year and than he did with the Thunder. He actually fills a need on this roster. Almost anything is an upgrade to how Ryan Anderson played last year.

He was actually decent when healthy. Its just his contract the gets ppl pissed

I have yet to see Melo be comfortable playing off ball. During Jeremy Lin's Linsanity run he came back and screwed everything up under D Antoni. Im curious to see how they want hiim to play. I can See Paul feeding him in good position. In terms of playing off ball I dont think thats going to happen. If it does good for Melo.

[Rotten Apple]

That Wolfgang dude is exactly why I hate this place.

Cant post anything without someone attacking you and calling you a name. Then I get out of character and retaliate.

What are we 5 years old? Why you gotta be a lover when you post some stats to disprove some narratives?

[Rotten Apple]

I can't understand why people complaining about Melo coming to Rockets even now when he agrees to play for the veteran minimum, and Ariza (and Mbah a Moute) left Houston!?

Houston team is stronger today than yesterday for sure, but Capela case is more important for their 2018-19 season.

Melo will be BBQ chicken for the Dubs every time he steps on the court. Utah feasted on him, and while they have some elite talent ala Mitchell, the Dubs are on another level.

False Melo wasn't cooked at all when playing GSW, check the stats above to disprove this theory you have.

[Pelon chingon]

Hate it for Hou. Things could really go bad.

[3toheadmelo]

Watch on YouTube

[XxIronChainzxX]

I can't understand why people complaining about Melo coming to Rockets even now when he agrees to play for the veteran minimum, and Ariza (and Mbah a Moute) left Houston!?

Houston team is stronger today than yesterday for sure, but Capela case is more important for their 2018-19 season.

Melo will be BBQ chicken for the Dubs every time he steps on the court. Utah feasted on him, and while they have some elite talent ala Mitchell, the Dubs are on another level.

False Melo wasn't cooked at all when playing GSW, check the stats above to disprove this theory you have.

Individual DRTG for 3 games is not at all meaningful. In fact DRTG in general is a bad stat. not even the W-L record is meaningful unelss you actually think that OkC twma would go 2-2 vs the Dubs in the post-seaatat.Not

[MaxRider]

i don't know people arguing this is bad move
veteran minimum
it's cheap option

[Rotten Apple]

Melo will be BBQ chicken for the Dubs every time he steps on the court. Utah feasted on him, and while they have some elite talent ala Mitchell, the Dubs are on another level.

False Melo wasn't cooked at all when playing GSW, check the stats above to disprove this theory you have.

Individual DRTG for 3 games is not at all meaningful. In fact DRTG in general is a bad stat. not even the W-L record is meaningful unelss you actually think that OkC twma would go 2-2 vs the Dubs in the post-seaatat.Not

How does it not matter now? It shows GS didn't "bbq chicken" Melo when he was on the court AND OKC was fine offensively with Melo on the court. If having a positive net rating isn't a good thing for Melo vs GS then I don't wanna hear anything about anymore advanced stats regarding players because if Melo had a 120 DRTG and 90 ORTG you'd all bash him.

[MaxRider]

Hate it for Hou. Things could really go bad.

wait until they sign Wade

[BallerTalk]

i don't trust Luc to replace Ariza
he didn't get a surgery to repair his shoulder
he isn't even confident to make a layup
remember Kings void his contract because his right shoulder failed the physical

Isn't the Kings this from a while ago tho? I get what you're saying, but he's a better option than anything we're gonna find on the market.

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not after he dislocated his shoulder twice after a dunk in a season

Yeah the first injury was very flukish, an awkward landing where he jammed his shoulder trying to catch his balance.
It was the second one that concerned me more because it came on a routine dunk just four months after the first one.
I'm still surprised he hasn't had surgery, especially after the affect it had on him in the playoffs.

[MelosSoreWrist]

He wasn't that in D'Antonis offense in NY. What are you talking about?

Also, D'antonis offense is completely different then it was in NY. Now he plays ISO ball and exploits mismatches. That's Melos game right there! OKC wants Russ to get the rebound and push, Melo is more of a half court player. Paul and Harden are also much better passers then Westbrook and George. They look to get guys opportunities way more then Westbrook who only really wants to pass if hes getting an assist.

Specifically in NY under DAntoni the friction was Melo refusing to sit in the corner. That was an issue.

In Houston, Harden or Paul has the ball for every possession. They are the mismatches. Melo isnt.

Spot up Melo is the solution. And that wouldve been the solution in OKC. But he wasnt. He is no longer good enough to iso for numerous possessions in a game. But the problem is that he thinks he is.

last off-season people predicted Harden/CP3 will not work but Westbrook/PG13/Melo will
because both Harden/CP3 need the ball and there is only one ball (like PG13/Melo don't need the ball)
so now the argument come up again?
Rockets met with Melo before the trade
they must see something Melo can help them
let them figure it out

Plenty of people, in fact it seemed the majority, thought Melo would not mesh well with Westbrook.. both liking to operate with the ball in their hands. And in fact they did not. The supporters of it cited "Olympic Melo," who at this point might not exist anymore.

And there were plenty of supporters who believed Harden and Paul would work. The reasoning was.. instead of having 80% of Rocket possession lead by elite point guard play, you would have 100% of it. Harden and Paul didnt have to fight each other every possession. When both were on the court, one would mostly be a spot up guy while the other operated the offense. Also there was a history in this with Paul allowing Blake Griffin to operate the offense for parts of the game when they were with the Clippers.

There are reasons behind opinions. In the Rockets offense, Melo isos wont be seen as a viable option. And he is a mediocre pick and roll guy. Not quick and athletic enough to be a slasher. Melo's role in the Rockets offense has to be spot up guy. Same role he was suppose to play in OKC.

[XxIronChainzxX]

False Melo wasn't cooked at all when playing GSW, check the stats above to disprove this theory you have.

Individual DRTG for 3 games is not at all meaningful. In fact DRTG in general is a bad stat. not even the W-L record is meaningful unelss you actually think that OkC twma would go 2-2 vs the Dubs in the post-seaatat.Not

How does it not matter now? It shows GS didn't "bbq chicken" Melo when he was on the court AND OKC was fine offensively with Melo on the court. If having a positive net rating isn't a good thing for Melo vs GS then I don't wanna hear anything about anymore advanced stats regarding players because if Melo had a 120 DRTG and 90 ORTG you'd all bash him.

You don't understand the advanced stats that you are using. They're a rudimentary player comparison tool that is based on large sample sizes, not a way to assess how a player works in an a specific setting. They don't tell you anything useful in a small series. You have 3 games with GSW in the RS. That isn't a meaningful sample to draw inference from using these metrics.

It's like having a player shoot 16/20. Doesn't mean he's the goat shooter.

[F N 11]

I know I get labeled a Melo hater but I am not seeing what people see in Melo. His last good year was the dad Melo year with Rookie Porzinigs (15-16) when he was a willing passer he averaged 4.2 APG. He doesnt try on defense. My thought is Paul is his boy and will get him in good scoring position. However how will Mike like that in favor of his spread offense?

When people say Melo needs to come off the bench its not that they hate him, its just that at this point (emphasis on this point) in his career and the way he plays hes better suited for the bench.

Melo fans remind me of Iverson fans. They love how sexy he plays but cant see how he impacts the game negatively.

[Rotten Apple]

You don't understand the advanced stats that you are using.

NO. Your BBQ chicken post was just BS and you were wrong. Good day sir.