Future Draft Games

[Dr Positivity]

I like it. You can take Magic if you want, but you either have to pony up for his peak season (1986-87) or your Robin options are severely limited (and they're already reduced somewhat). Normally you don't have to do that kind of calculus with Magic.

The other benefit of going in order is that everyone can properly plan out their FGA usage which would be a bit of a headache otherwise.

I like it, too. If the other signups fizzle out I'd be in.

Hey guys, it's the return of CSF! Any of you guys wants to run this next? I can run it if nobody else wants too. This idea intrigued me the most right now. I'll probably start this soon as the other draft is nearly over.

I might make a poll too to see where everyone's head at.

First post has been updated with the most recent ideas!

You can start it, you do a good job hosting

[Dr Positivity]

Hey guys, it's the return of CSF! Any of you guys wants to run this next? I can run it if nobody else wants too. This idea intrigued me the most right now. I'll probably start this soon as the other draft is nearly over.

I might make a poll too to see where everyone's head at.

First post has been updated with the most recent ideas!

To be clear, your Robins have two restrictions - they must have lower FGAs than your Batman AND be non-MVPs?

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

I think we have different games in mind. The one I was thinking of would be

Round 1 - MVP or worse
Rounds 2-3 - 1st team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than Round 1 pick
Rounds 4-8 - 3rd team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than either Round 2/3 pick

Unlike the Batman/Robin game, there would be no option to select the Robins or supporting cast group first, you would have to go in the above order. Furthermore the players would be taken individually

[ChicagoSportsFan21]

To be clear, your Robins have two restrictions - they must have lower FGAs than your Batman AND be non-MVPs?

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

I think we have different games in mind. The one I was thinking of would be

Round 1 - MVP or worse
Rounds 2-3 - 1st team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than Round 1 pick
Rounds 4-8 - 3rd team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than either Round 2/3 pick

Unlike the Batman/Robin game, there would be no option to select the Robins or supporting cast group first, you would have to go in the above order. Furthermore the players would be taken individually

Yeah, we do have different games in mind. I was looking at a quick and efficient 3 round game where one round you would take the MVP with the highest FGA, one round you would take the robins-2nd/3rd highest FGA, and one round you would take your supporting cast which would be your 4th-8th FGA. This would be post-merger. The only thing I may change is that you don't have to take your MVP in the first round, but you can take MVP any round to make it little more entertaining. FGA calculation might be a little tricky, but I think it will make the strategy much more interesting. The breakdown would be as previously:

1 Batman: MVP or worse/no restrictions
2 Robin: 1st or 2nd team All-NBA or worse
5 Supporting cast: - 3 3rd team All-NBA or worse (includes All-star as worse than 3rd team All-NBA), plus 2 must not have made either all-star team or All-NBA

Thoughts?

[Dr Positivity]

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

I think we have different games in mind. The one I was thinking of would be

Round 1 - MVP or worse
Rounds 2-3 - 1st team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than Round 1 pick
Rounds 4-8 - 3rd team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than either Round 2/3 pick

Unlike the Batman/Robin game, there would be no option to select the Robins or supporting cast group first, you would have to go in the above order. Furthermore the players would be taken individually

Yeah, we do have different games in mind. I was looking at a quick and efficient 3 round game where one round you would take the MVP with the highest FGA, one round you would take the robins-2nd/3rd highest FGA, and one round you would take your supporting cast which would be your 4th-8th FGA. This would be post-merger. The only thing I may change is that you don't have to take your MVP in the first round, but you can take MVP any round to make it little more entertaining. FGA calculation might be a little tricky, but I think it will make the strategy much more interesting. The breakdown would be as previously:

1 Batman: MVP or worse/no restrictions
2 Robin: 1st or 2nd team All-NBA or worse
5 Supporting cast: - 3 3rd team All-NBA or worse (includes All-star as worse than 3rd team All-NBA), plus 2 must not have made either all-star team or All-NBA

Thoughts?

Yea this seems good to me. Has a lot of strategy

[Fadeaway_J]

Yes I was under that impression. I'll have to take a closer look at the previous one, but the twist in this one that is new is that it has to be lower FGAs than your Batman.

I think we have different games in mind. The one I was thinking of would be

Round 1 - MVP or worse
Rounds 2-3 - 1st team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than Round 1 pick
Rounds 4-8 - 3rd team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than either Round 2/3 pick

Unlike the Batman/Robin game, there would be no option to select the Robins or supporting cast group first, you would have to go in the above order. Furthermore the players would be taken individually

Yeah, we do have different games in mind. I was looking at a quick and efficient 3 round game where one round you would take the MVP with the highest FGA, one round you would take the robins-2nd/3rd highest FGA, and one round you would take your supporting cast which would be your 4th-8th FGA. This would be post-merger. The only thing I may change is that you don't have to take your MVP in the first round, but you can take MVP any round to make it little more entertaining. FGA calculation might be a little tricky, but I think it will make the strategy much more interesting. The breakdown would be as previously:

1 Batman: MVP or worse/no restrictions
2 Robin: 1st or 2nd team All-NBA or worse
5 Supporting cast: - 3 3rd team All-NBA or worse (includes All-star as worse than 3rd team All-NBA), plus 2 must not have made either all-star team or All-NBA

Thoughts?

This is what I was expecting as well. Personally I would prefer the rounds in a set order, but that's not a dealbreaker.

[Laimbeer]

I think we have different games in mind. The one I was thinking of would be

Round 1 - MVP or worse
Rounds 2-3 - 1st team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than Round 1 pick
Rounds 4-8 - 3rd team All-NBA or worse, lower FGAs than either Round 2/3 pick

Unlike the Batman/Robin game, there would be no option to select the Robins or supporting cast group first, you would have to go in the above order. Furthermore the players would be taken individually

Yeah, we do have different games in mind. I was looking at a quick and efficient 3 round game where one round you would take the MVP with the highest FGA, one round you would take the robins-2nd/3rd highest FGA, and one round you would take your supporting cast which would be your 4th-8th FGA. This would be post-merger. The only thing I may change is that you don't have to take your MVP in the first round, but you can take MVP any round to make it little more entertaining. FGA calculation might be a little tricky, but I think it will make the strategy much more interesting. The breakdown would be as previously:

1 Batman: MVP or worse/no restrictions
2 Robin: 1st or 2nd team All-NBA or worse
5 Supporting cast: - 3 3rd team All-NBA or worse (includes All-star as worse than 3rd team All-NBA), plus 2 must not have made either all-star team or All-NBA

Thoughts?

This is what I was expecting as well. Personally I would prefer the rounds in a set order, but that's not a dealbreaker.

Yes, I like the groups and being able to draft them in the order you like. Taking higher FGA tiers later would be tricky but part of the strategy.

[Fadeaway_J]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

[Laimbeer]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

I like it, particularly the fact it puts players in pools that you must draw one each from. Adds to the strategy.

[Fadeaway_J]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

I like it, particularly the fact it puts players in pools that you must draw one each from. Adds to the strategy.

Actually I wasn't thinking of restricting how many players you take from each pool. Do you think it would be necessary?

[Laimbeer]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

I like it, particularly the fact it puts players in pools that you must draw one each from. Adds to the strategy.

Actually I wasn't thinking of restricting how many players you take from each pool. Do you think it would be necessary?

Oh, I was thinking you'd require one and only one from each of those five levels. Might add to the strategy.

[Dr Positivity]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

I would play, but it is pretty similar to a peak WS draft, since that correlates well to a players highest accolade year.

How about being forced to draft one of and pay that accolade's price for MVP, All-NBA 1st team, All-NBA 2nd team and All-NBA 3rd team/All-star, and the other four players must be non all-stars?

[Fadeaway_J]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

I would play, but it is pretty similar to a peak WS draft, since that correlates well to a players highest accolade year.

How about being forced to draft one of and pay that accolade's price for MVP, All-NBA 1st team, All-NBA 2nd team and All-NBA 3rd team/All-star, and the other four players must be non all-stars?

Yeah I guess that works.

[8on]

Still a good idea, and I’m not sure why anyone would object!

Black players only, 70s to now. West, Havlicek, Walton, Bird, McHale, Stockton, Price, the Barrys, Mullin, Manu, Nash, Peja, Petrovic, Majerle, Detlef, Dirk, Love and more are gone. Could be interesting without all of those shooters

I would run it if it received enough interest.

[migya]

Still a good idea, and I’m not sure why anyone would object!

Black players only, 70s to now. West, Havlicek, Walton, Bird, McHale, Stockton, Price, the Barrys, Mullin, Manu, Nash, Peja, Petrovic, Majerle, Detlef, Dirk, Love and more are gone. Could be interesting without all of those shooters

I would run it if it received enough interest.

They maybe find it racist.

[janmagn]

Still a good idea, and I’m not sure why anyone would object!

Black players only, 70s to now. West, Havlicek, Walton, Bird, McHale, Stockton, Price, the Barrys, Mullin, Manu, Nash, Peja, Petrovic, Majerle, Detlef, Dirk, Love and more are gone. Could be interesting without all of those shooters

I would run it if it received enough interest.

They maybe find it racist.

My problem isn't that it may be racist.

There was talk about all white game some time ago and racism wasn't the reason why it went down. The reason was that there was players that were mixed and how we should view them. Guys like Blake Griffin and Klay Thompson were the problem if I remember correctly

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[8on]

Blake and Klay are light-skinned. A small amount of research will determine if a player is part-black. Jason Kidd: black. Klay's dad is Mychal Thompson, so obviously he qualifies. If there are any other concerns, I'll make a commissioner's ruling.

[Dr Positivity]

I would like to revisit the tournament style game that was played a few times last year - after the first round 8 advance, then 4 advance, then the final 4 have a draft to determine the winners. I thought playing to advance was a cool incentive

[migya]

Still a good idea, and I’m not sure why anyone would object!

They maybe find it racist.

My problem isn't that it may be racist.

There was talk about all white game some time ago and racism wasn't the reason why it went down. The reason was that there was players that were mixed and how we should view them. Guys like Blake Griffin and Klay Thompson were the problem if I remember correctly

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I was joking, don't think anyone would find that racist.

[Fadeaway_J]

Still a good idea, and I’m not sure why anyone would object!

Black players only, 70s to now. West, Havlicek, Walton, Bird, McHale, Stockton, Price, the Barrys, Mullin, Manu, Nash, Peja, Petrovic, Majerle, Detlef, Dirk, Love and more are gone. Could be interesting without all of those shooters

I would run it if it received enough interest.

I don't get the appeal honestly. The vast majority of the players we usually draft (and especially the stars) are black anyway. You're removing maybe about 20-25% of the typical player pool, but most of them are complementary players who wouldn't be missed that much. Guys like Price, Peja, Petrovic, and Love aren't even picked a lot of the time.

I was never big on the white guys draft idea either, but at least I can see where it significantly shakes up the player pool. This one just seems like a regular 70s to now game with a few random stars missing.

[Laimbeer]

OK, so this is a twist I was close to proposing for the current game, but it could also work in a regular eight-round draft.

Basically the players would again be divided into tiers, but each tier would correspond to the highest level of accolade each player achieved over the course of their career. I'd rank them as follows:

1. MVP
2. All-NBA First Team
3. All-NBA Second Team
4. All-NBA Third Team
5. All-Star

The difference would be that you have to pick a season corresponding to each accolade. So if your player won an MVP, you have to use that season (or one of those seasons). If he made All-NBA First Team at an any time, you can't drop down to a Second Team year to save FGA. And so on down the line. You could pick any number of players from each tier, as well as players who never achieved any of those accolades and wouldn't be subject to any restrictions on the season chosen.

Just an example, using my team in the Batman/Robin game, I'd be forced to select:

- D-Rob's MVP season (1994-95)
- Pierce's All-NBA Second Team season (2008-09)
- Mason's All-NBA Third Team season (1996-97)

The whole idea is that if you pick Player X in the MVP tier for example, you also have to pay an MVP price. This obviously won't impact everyone, but suddenly the calculus changes for guys like D-Rob, Hakeem, and Barkley whose MVP seasons are usually avoided to save FGA, or someone like Iguodala who is often used as a bench player.

I would play, but it is pretty similar to a peak WS draft, since that correlates well to a players highest accolade year.

How about being forced to draft one of and pay that accolade's price for MVP, All-NBA 1st team, All-NBA 2nd team and All-NBA 3rd team/All-star, and the other four players must be non all-stars?

Yeah I guess that works.

I would agree with one of each and also add only one of each. That gives people the flexibility to draft, say, their MVP late knowing they won't all be snapped up.