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Post#421 » by Chandan » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:13 pm

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Chandan wrote:Hey, derozan is trash. Deal with it.


You will have to deal with the trash, because that is where this team is headed after Khwai takes care of his own, just like he should.


Kawhi is gone after this season. But he gifted us with getting rid of derozans presence. Thats enough for me.

This whole fiasco just proved what a loser derozan is. Instead of approaching Masai and told him he felt disrespected, first thing he does is whine on social media.
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Post#422 » by Hackett » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:13 pm

Morse Code wrote:So happy DeMar is gone. His self entitlement and lack of accountability for his failures always infuriated me. Now this? This is like a high school girl getting dumped for a supermodel and he's trying to throw shade cuz he's hurt. **** off.


He gave his heart and soul to this team... lack of accountability?? Thats all you bro. Fans like you have destroyed this club. We will be **** for a decade because of these short sighted moves.

Free agents are seeing how we treat those that give us their all. We ARE TRASH. Any player/coach that gives his loyalty to this team should have their heads checked.

Khwai, do what is best for you.... the snake in the office certainly wont.
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Post#423 » by Truthrising » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:14 pm

Tired of the DeRozan self entitlement BS.. we should’ve traded him after the Wizards playoff loss..he should just be thankful how the organization helped build him up to where he is at this point and rewarded him with the $130 million dollar contract instead of sulking on how the organization screwed him over. 1st world problems :nonono: :nonono:
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Post#424 » by Hackett » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:16 pm

Chandan wrote: But he gifted us with getting rid of derozans presence. Thats enough for me.

This whole fiasco just proved what a loser derozan is.



This team will never smell success the likes they had when they had Derozan again.... for a decade maybe two... this will go down in history as the turning point, and you will change your alias before this new season is up, because you were part of the problem not the solution.
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Post#425 » by Topher » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:16 pm

The word sacrifice is used too loosely.
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Post#426 » by whysoserious » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:16 pm

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The trade doesn't happen overnight my guy. It's in the works for weeks. Masai told DD at summer league that he wouldn't be traded. If Derozan asks, just say all options are open as you know since it's a business.

Don't need to be a snake about it. This is where Demar is hurt


You have no evidence that Masai said the words "you won't be traded". Demar implied that's what he was told but even in the interview he doesn't state for fact that he was told he won't be traded (unless I missed it). It was more so he believed that since they were talking about his future in Toronto that he believed no trade would happen.

At one point, I believe Demar said he asked if he was being traded and he said he was told no, Masai says he says nothing was imminent. There's a lot of grey here and lot that both sides can perceive the discussion differently, yet both feel they are being clear. Demar is hurt and emotional, I'd say his judgement and ability to remember things absolutely the way they went down has been drastically affected by his current emotional state.

Stop playing in to this narrative that Masai lied and we snaked Demar. Look back at Masai's history and his relationship with his players, there's nothing there that shows malicious intent to lie about things. In fact, he's honest and transparent, way more than most GM's are with their players.
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Post#427 » by HiMyNameIsTrey » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:18 pm

Lmao, Derozan talking about sacrificing his years here? This guy really is clueless and the way he mentions Lebron shows once again he doesn’t have a winner’s mentality. Masai should have traded this bum 5 years ago
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Post#428 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:18 pm

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lambo23 wrote:I think DeRozan just would have liked more honesty. Masai said he wouldn't be traded. That's just a snake move honestly to then trade him days later after saying he wouldn't be.


What did you want him to do if he thought a deal was unrealistic with the spurs? He talked about next season with DD and dd interpreted that as he wouldn't be traded. People really need to stop pushing this false narrative that MU went to DD and told him "im not trading you" when he really had a deal done with RC buford in his blackberry and was just waiting a couple days to announce it for the LOLs


Maybe Masai felt Demar would be upset whether he was informed "openly" or not and Masai REALLY wanted this deal and above all else NO leaks. I admire how Demar wanted to be Mr. Toronto and grow into the franchise player whether some think him legit or not. So we didn't get past the ECF with him so bloody what. We watch this freakin game and we are not in uniform. Masai being a snake? Sometimes managers have do sneaky and if it was me in Demar shoes I would feel the same way. I would remind myself after twenty seconds that Imhave 28 million reasons each year to take it like a man as the compensation more than makes up for any upsetting emotional attachments. Demar also hinted Masai got really cosy with them all making them feel more than secure there. For that and other reasons Masai should have been more forthcoming with the agent because it is situations like this where agents get paid. Maybe Masai was worried about Demar telling Rudy and the thing blows up in the press before final terms are/were agreed to. You know then Ainge white knights in with a better offer.

At the end I think things went down like this. SA did not want the Lakers to get Kawhi. Toronto did not want Boston or Philly to get him. Everything else is chips fall where they may.
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Post#429 » by Hackett » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:19 pm

This is how you turn a 59 win club into garbage.


The entitled fans already turned on Derozan, and they have not had one game with their new boy. Hope every single player that wanted to sign here sees this. So they can do their best to avoid this trash heap.
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Post#430 » by Chandan » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:20 pm

Truthrising wrote:Tired of the DeRozan self entitlement BS.. we should’ve traded him after the Wizards playoff loss..he should just be thankful how the organization helped build him up to where he is at this point and rewarded him with the $130 million dollar contract instead of sulking on how the organization screwed him over. 1st world problems :nonono: :nonono:


The word is ungrateful. He always knew how to play the victim card though. Thank the city, thank the fans, thank the country. No way to look bad. He doesn't realize none of those would have supported him if the organization forced his name down our throat and Masai gave him chances after chances to "prove'm"?
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Post#431 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:20 pm

HiMyNameIsTrey wrote:Lmao, Derozan talking about sacrificing his years here? This guy really is clueless and the way he mentions Lebron shows once again he doesn’t have a winner’s mentality. Masai should have traded this bum 5 years ago


Probably two years ago but not the reasons you mention.
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Post#432 » by pkiskool » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:21 pm

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Chandan wrote:Hey, derozan is trash. Deal with it.


You will have to deal with the trash, because that is where this team is headed after Khwai takes care of his own, just like he should.


Kawhi is gone after this season. But he gifted us with getting rid of derozans presence. Thats enough for me.

This whole fiasco just proved what a loser derozan is. Instead of approaching Masai and told him he felt disrespected, first thing he does is whine on social media.

Not everyone reacts to a situation the same way.
Using social media is just one of the forms of outlets, just like approaching Masai straight up would be.
It's basically a difference in calling your boss vs emailing your boss.
People have different preferences.
Yes, using IG gets the public on notice but I'm sure we would have found out had he gone to Masai straight up anyway.
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Post#433 » by HiMyNameIsTrey » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:21 pm

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HiMyNameIsTrey wrote:Lmao, Derozan talking about sacrificing his years here? This guy really is clueless and the way he mentions Lebron shows once again he doesn’t have a winner’s mentality. Masai should have traded this bum 5 years ago


Probably two years ago but not the reasons you mention.


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Post#434 » by carlosey » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm

Time to move on really. Good luck to Demar, but this is getting old.
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Post#435 » by traps#10 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm

whysoserious wrote:Chris Hayes went in to that interview with the purpose of exploiting Demar's emotion and tried to make the interview go a certain way looking to make Toronto looking bad. He didn't do any follow-up on certain statements when it was positive about Toronto but he tried to keep pushing it back to the snaked/lied to angle.

Hayes is a troll of a reporter. He was throwing shade on the Kawhi/Toronto angle before it even got serious. And now that he saw an opening in a specific situation to slam Toronto further.

As for the interview and Demar's responses. I think for the most part they are fair. I think the conversation he and Masai had, there's so much grey area to what was discussed. Demar can look at things from his perspective and see it differently than Masai and there's nothing wrong with that. He's also a very emotional dude in general, dealing with some depression issues he shared with the world earlier this year and dealing with serious health issues for his father. It was a convergence of events that is leading to this response from Demar. I think he could handle it better than he is right now but I'm not going to strongly hold it against him.

I'd rather remember that this kid came to Toronto, made it his home, repped the city every chance he could, showed his loyalty to the organization and city. Love the fans. Set the culture for this organization (dude used to go to G League games here to support the young guys) and he deserves to be remembered fondly by the fans regardless of how this all played out with his departure.


This is very well written and should be the post of the thread.
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Post#436 » by Topher » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm

Chandan wrote:
Truthrising wrote:Tired of the DeRozan self entitlement BS.. we should’ve traded him after the Wizards playoff loss..he should just be thankful how the organization helped build him up to where he is at this point and rewarded him with the $130 million dollar contract instead of sulking on how the organization screwed him over. 1st world problems :nonono: :nonono:


The word is ungrateful. He always knew how to play the victim card though. Thank the city, thank the fans, thank the country. No way to look bad. He doesn't realize none of those would have supported him if the organization forced his name down our throat and Masai gave him chances after chances to "prove'm"?


Time to find a new slant. It’s getting real old.
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Post#437 » by whysoserious » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm

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Derozan is starting to annoy me, making us look so bad. He wasn't treated badly, in fact his abysmal performances over the last 3 years caused that.



sacrifice? whaaat sacrifice??



Just wow... some of the fans are really out to lunch. The Management of the team after this loss was atrocious, stab wounds to the most committed members of the team. The ones that gave the most were the ones that were thrown under the bus.

Nothing will come of this trade. These moves will be remembered as some of the worst in franchise history. Up there with trading away Vince Carter in his prime for chump change.




As a player I would never play for a team managed this way. As a coach I would never want to work for Masai. He is a snake. We will get what we sow. We talk about how important it is for players to carry themselves a certain way, how important loyalty is, and than BAM we fire coach Casey during the franchise's best performance and COY honors, we make an example of OUR MOST COMMITTED PLAYER in front of the entire league.

No way in hell will Kwahi trust the snake that runs this franchise. Why should he? We are going to have to clean house to get rid of this awful stench that Masai brought on to this organization. Kwahi will have Derozan's back.


Some of you are optimistic, but that will fade... because we showed clearly how we reward commitment to this team and that will catch up to us.


Masai, talks about respect, but he doesn't seem to think it applies to his moves and actions and all he has done was slither this off season. Just another African con man. All talk, and very little substance.


Seriously, you need to stop with this Masai is a snake angle. You're basically feeding in to the narrative being pushed with little to no evidence.

Masai stuck with Casey for 5 freaking years despite coming up short on multiple occasions and including three playoff sweeps. Seriously, how many GM's stick by their coaches that long through that many failures? Sure Lebron was our biggest challenge but the Pacers and depleted Celtics put up a bigger fight against the Cavs this year than first seed in the conference.

As for Demar, he stuck with him too for the length of his tenure, always supported him and the players. He's built that trust with the players because he's honest, open and transparent with all of them.

Whatever happened here in the exchange between Demar and Masai prior to the trade, we'll never know. There's two sides to the whole thing. All we can do is look back on the history of both individuals and there's nothing to support that Masai is a snake or liar.

You are reacting emotionally (just like Demar is) because you're upset he's gone. That's fine, be upset, no one would call you out on that. But stating things as ridiculous as this trade will be worse than Vince, that we get what we sow, that no coach or player is going to want to play for us now is absolutely unnecessary and not based in reality.
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Post#438 » by tdotrep2 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm

Hackett wrote:This is how you turn a 59 win club into garbage.


The entitled fans already turned on Derozan, and they have not had one game with their new boy. Hope every single player that wanted to sign here sees this. So they can do their best to avoid this trash heap.


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Post#439 » by MavCarter » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm

Hackett wrote:
Derozan is starting to annoy me, making us look so bad. He wasn't treated badly, in fact his abysmal performances over the last 3 years caused that.



sacrifice? whaaat sacrifice??



Just wow... some of the fans are really out to lunch. The Management of the team after this loss was atrocious, stab wounds to the most committed members of the team. The ones that gave the most were the ones that were thrown under the bus.

Nothing will come of this trade. These moves will be remembered as some of the worst in franchise history. Up there with trading away Vince Carter in his prime for chump change.




As a player I would never play for a team managed this way. As a coach I would never want to work for Masai. He is a snake. We will get what we sow. We talk about how important it is for players to carry themselves a certain way, how important loyalty is, and than BAM we fire coach Casey during the franchise's best performance and COY honors, we make an example of OUR MOST COMMITTED PLAYER in front of the entire league.

No way in hell will Kwahi trust the snake that runs this franchise. Why should he? We are going to have to clean house to get rid of this awful stench that Masai brought on to this organization. Kwahi will have Derozan's back.


Some of you are optimistic, but that will fade... because we showed clearly how we reward commitment to this team and that will catch up to us.


Masai, talks about respect, but he doesn't seem to think it applies to his moves and actions and all he has done was slither this off season. Just another African con man. All talk, and very little substance.


What a terrible **** post please log off and break whatever device you used to create this disgrace of a post in half
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Post#440 » by ruckus » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:23 pm

dillio wrote:Did the people that are trashing DeMar actually watch the video? Apart from the couple of soundbites, he wasn't overly negative/critical and every time he talked about Toronto, Canada, or the Raptors, his voice choked up a little. How can you watch/listen to that interview and be mad at the guy?


I'm convinced most people on this board don't watch the videos and don't read the articles. They're all a bunch of Stephen A Smith/Skip Bayless hot take wannabes.

Most franchises would be lucky to have a player that repped the city and franchise as hard as Demar did for Toronto. Hell, he's still wearing his Raptors hat!
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