Clint Capela Agrees To Five-Year, $90M Deal With Rockets

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Am I the only one who thinks Capela is overrated...?

Nearly 20 million a year for a guy who gas no offensive skills and can't even stay on the court in the 4th quarter due to his career 48% FT...? I know rebounding and rim protection are important, but in today's NBA committing 90 million to a big man who can't make a basket past 10 feet doesnt seem smart.

averaged 18 points per 36 on 65% TS. how many guys in the league can say that? any others at all?

Dwight Howard averaged 19.7 per 36 on 58% TS. That was the worst percentage from the field for him in 12 years. Dwight shot over 60% from the field two years in a row prior to this past season. They both suck at free throw shooting. They are in the same ballpark and Dwight is passed around the league like a hot potato...

Key differences:
Dwight is paid millions more, is stubborn, causes locker room issues, and loses in almost every key statistical category outside of raw points.
https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=243&player_ids%5B%5D=1497&season=2017

I swear, the guys who are bashing this deal are basically just making noises.
If you take all the players who are in the same category, they're ALL paid over 18 million.

Clint is the most efficient. He's better than or comparable to most of them defensively. They all require being fed the ball to score. Only 4 of them rebound marginally better than him, and he beats all of them on TS%.
He's paid the least.

Capela, Clint $15.52
Jordan, DeAndre $21
Drummond, Andre $22
Kanter, Enes $17
Whiteside, Hassan $22
Gobert, Rudy $23
Adams, Steven $22.5
Towns, Karl-Anthony (rookie)
Valanciunas, Jonas $16.5
Jokic, Nikola $26
Dwight Howard $23

https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=1264&player_ids%5B%5D=1497&player_ids%5B%5D=129&player_ids%5B%5D=506&player_ids%5B%5D=298&player_ids%5B%5D=1378&player_ids%5B%5D=1419&player_ids%5B%5D=3070&player_ids%5B%5D=1314&player_ids%5B%5D=1500&season=2017

Don't be jealous. It's not befitting.

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Am I the only one who thinks Capela is overrated...?

Nearly 20 million a year for a guy who gas no offensive skills and can't even stay on the court in the 4th quarter due to his career 48% FT...? I know rebounding and rim protection are important, but in today's NBA committing 90 million to a big man who can't make a basket past 10 feet doesnt seem smart.

averaged 18 points per 36 on 65% TS. how many guys in the league can say that? any others at all?

Dwight Howard averaged 19.7 per 36 on 58% TS. That was the worst percentage from the field for him in 12 years. Dwight shot over 60% from the field two years in a row prior to this past season. They both suck at free throw shooting. They are in the same ballpark and Dwight is passed around the league like a hot potato...

so the answer to my question is zero?

capela is putting up numbers on a per minute basis as good as dwight howard ever did. capela is 24, howard is 32. dwight got a larger deal than capela just did at age 30

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averaged 18 points per 36 on 65% TS. how many guys in the league can say that? any others at all?

Dwight Howard averaged 19.7 per 36 on 58% TS. That was the worst percentage from the field for him in 12 years. Dwight shot over 60% from the field two years in a row prior to this past season. They both suck at free throw shooting. They are in the same ballpark and Dwight is passed around the league like a hot potato...

so the answer to my question is zero?

capela is putting up numbers on a per minute basis as good as dwight howard ever did. capela is 24, howard is 32. dwight got a larger deal than capela just did at age 30

Dwight was a force that took the league by storm and had a team built around him because he was so physically imposing and dominant as the age of 19. To say that Capela is just as effective as Dwight was by using a per minute stat shows how truly misguided you are. Sometimes the numbers are just dumb to compare when the reality was so obviously night and day different.

There is a reason not one team offered Capela a full max. Capela is not a franchise player, not even close. He is a good complimentary player though. If Dwight was on the market at age 23, he would have had his choice of 30 max contracts to choose from. That would be just as true today as well. Dwight was already a three time all star by age 23 and Capela is not making an all star team any time soon. Comparing the two players by using adjusted stats is irresponsible. If there was one team that thought those projected stats could be reality for Capela, they would have offered a max contract. But they didn't, cuz he's not.

I only used Dwight in a comparison to show how a player in the same ballpark as Capela CURRENTLY (and we had to use a really down season to make Capela look good) is passed around like a dirty shirt and not worth much at all in the modern game. Capela is as good as a 30+ year old Dwight. Capela couldn't hold Dwight's jock in his prime, it's silly to assert that in any way.

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Dwight Howard averaged 19.7 per 36 on 58% TS. That was the worst percentage from the field for him in 12 years. Dwight shot over 60% from the field two years in a row prior to this past season. They both suck at free throw shooting. They are in the same ballpark and Dwight is passed around the league like a hot potato...

so the answer to my question is zero?

capela is putting up numbers on a per minute basis as good as dwight howard ever did. capela is 24, howard is 32. dwight got a larger deal than capela just did at age 30

Dwight was a force that took the league by storm and had a team built around him because he was so physically imposing and dominant as the age of 19. To say that Capela is just as effective as Dwight was by using a per minute stat shows how truly misguided you are.

good thing i didn't say that. you shouldn't have to make **** up if your argument is any good

and building a team around dwight didn't work very well. why? because he was and is a black hole on offense. the magic offense was merely above average in the 4 season stretch where they won 50+ games. defense was the primary reason they were as good as they were

There is a reason not one team offered Capela a full max. Capela is not a franchise player, not even close.

nobody said that either. keep shifting the goalposts

if you had been paying attention, this conversation is about whether capela deserves the contract he GOT

Comparing the two players by using adjusted stats is irresponsible

irresponsible? what do you think the function of this forum is?

i used the stat i did because it's the fairest way to compare. using raw stats distorts the comparison more. if one guy averages 20/10 and another averages 10/5 and you have no other context, the first guy looks better by leaps and bounds. but if the second guy is playing half the minutes it completely changes the context of the comparison. on the other hand, using per 36 and not mentioning minutes played is not nearly as misleading

If there was one team that thought those projected stats could be reality for Capela

seriously? how much worse do you think he would play if he got 36 minutes a night? there is ZERO reason to believe that his play would decline playing a handful more minutes a night

I only used Dwight in a comparison to show how a player in the same ballpark as Capela CURRENTLY (and we had to use a really down season to make Capela look good) is passed around like a dirty shirt and not worth much at all in the modern game.

there's a reason 30 teams passed on dwight and capela got a big contract

see that, i used your own argument against you

the ACTUAL reason that dwight did not get a big offer are his age and the financial reality this offseason. it was still the "modern game" two offseasons ago and he got a big contract. so make up another excuse. because clearly clint capela's game works just fine in the modern nba

Capela is as good as a 30+ year old Dwight

actually, he's better. which is why he got a much bigger contract

see there, i did it again to ya!

Capela couldn't hold Dwight's jock in his prime, it's silly to assert that in any way.

good. thing. i. didn't!

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so the answer to my question is zero?

capela is putting up numbers on a per minute basis as good as dwight howard ever did. capela is 24, howard is 32. dwight got a larger deal than capela just did at age 30

Dwight was a force that took the league by storm and had a team built around him because he was so physically imposing and dominant as the age of 19. To say that Capela is just as effective as Dwight was by using a per minute stat shows how truly misguided you are.

good thing i didn't say that. you shouldn't have to make **** up if your argument is any good

and building a team around dwight didn't work very well. why? because he was and is a black hole on offense. the magic offense was merely above average in the 4 season stretch where they won 50+ games. defense was the primary reason they were as good as they were

There is a reason not one team offered Capela a full max. Capela is not a franchise player, not even close.

nobody said that either. keep shifting the goalposts

if you had been paying attention, this conversation is about whether capela deserves the contract he GOT

Comparing the two players by using adjusted stats is irresponsible

irresponsible? what do you think the function of this forum is?

i used the stat i did because it's the fairest way to compare. using raw stats distorts the comparison more. if one guy averages 20/10 and another averages 10/5 and you have no other context, the first guy looks better by leaps and bounds. but if the second guy is playing half the minutes it completely changes the context of the comparison. on the other hand, using per 36 and not mentioning minutes played is not nearly as misleading

If there was one team that thought those projected stats could be reality for Capela

seriously? how much worse do you think he would play if he got 36 minutes a night? there is ZERO reason to believe that his play would decline playing a handful more minutes a night

I only used Dwight in a comparison to show how a player in the same ballpark as Capela CURRENTLY (and we had to use a really down season to make Capela look good) is passed around like a dirty shirt and not worth much at all in the modern game.

there's a reason 30 teams passed on dwight and capela got a big contract

see that, i used your own argument against you

the ACTUAL reason that dwight did not get a big offer are his age and the financial reality this offseason. it was still the "modern game" two offseasons ago and he got a big contract. so make up another excuse. because clearly clint capela's game works just fine in the modern nba

Capela is as good as a 30+ year old Dwight

actually, he's better. which is why he got a much bigger contract

see there, i did it again to ya!

Capela couldn't hold Dwight's jock in his prime, it's silly to assert that in any way.

good. thing. i. didn't!

You said, "capela is putting up numbers on a per minute basis as good as dwight howard ever did". Dwight's prime numbers were light years better than anything Capela has posted to date.

Building a team around Dwight got a FInals appearance, that is far better than any team built around Capela could dream of doing.

Sometimes using per 36 stats is just a way of trying to inflate the perception of a guy when a little more consideration could just come up with a real player that gave similar contributions at that stage of their careers. There are literally thousands of players from the past to choose from. Of the current players out there, I see Whiteside being a pretty good comparison. Although, that may be giving Capela just a bit too much credit, Whiteside hits free throws at a better clip and has produced more sustainably. Perhaps the age difference can account for some of that. OTOH that is the most reasonable comparison without trying to reach too far. Maybe I think those comparisons using per 36 stats is lazy, I dunno what got me all bent out of shape on this stuff, sorry if you feel I attacked you.

Capela would be worse if he played more minutes, he would be exposed by the matchups that drive him to the bench. Pretty simple. I don't think D'Antoni puts Capela on the bench just for the fun of it, he is a very productive player for the Rockets.

I don't see Capela being better than Dwight at this point. Attitudes aside, Dwight still puts up numbers that Capela nears on a per 36 basis and Dwight has been bouncing around teams for years. If you bounced Capela around in the same way, I don't see the same contributions. Capela is great for the Rockets, but Dwight can give those numbers to any team you put him on, big difference.

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Except the Rockets got better when we ditched Dwight and went with Capela.

It definitely seems like the goalposts moved.
Proof positive?

This is the first move of the offseason the Rockets have made that I thought made sense.

This thread started out with an agreement. Weird how the internet does that.