Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj

[NatP4]

Windhorsts comments about Gortat make me so mad. Gortat was literally just speaking the truth about this team. No one else wanted to say it because of our mentally fragile team culture and lack of leadership. Wall is 50% of the problem in our pick and roll defense, Wall posting a .515 TS% while taking 16 shots a game is a problem. Wall ranking in the mid 50s for point guards in DRPM is a problem. What do we hear from the media and 90% of the fanbase? All Gortat hate. A 33 year old role player.

Bullcrap. This team has a lot of problems. Not all of it is Wall. Gortat's problem was running his mouth about all the team's issues but never looking in the mirror. I heard Wall address his shortcomings numerous times. When did Gortat?

GTFO.

Gortat's MO was running off and skipping his post-game media availability whenever he had bad game. Crying like a ***** about how the coaching staff doesn't give him post touches. Getting benched in the playoffs for playing like garbage, and then crying to the FO asking for a trade. Insulting his teammates by saying to the media "we have the worst bench in the league" when he wasn't even a starting-caliber player himself

Someone find me one example of John ducking from the media or not taking responsibility for himself after every single game.

You mean calling Otto passive? Crying about not having an athletic big? Blaming Gortat for the pick and roll defense in a team meeting?

Have you ever heard wall say “yeah I take a lot of dumb shots and don’t even try on defense”

Atleast everyone else on the roster actually gives effort (besides Morris)

Such a losing culture where we make every excuse for the franchise player and blame everything on a 33 year old role player that averaged 25 minutes per game

[NatP4]

Bullcrap. This team has a lot of problems. Not all of it is Wall. Gortat's problem was running his mouth about all the team's issues but never looking in the mirror. I heard Wall address his shortcomings numerous times. When did Gortat?

GTFO.

Did you even read what I posted? That’s the entire point. The media and this fanbase act like the entire issue with this team is Gortat and Otto Porter being passive.

You’ve heard wall address his shortcomings multiple times and never heard Gortat do so? Now you’re just lying.

Did Gortat take responsibility for being played off the floor in the playoffs?
No, he cried to the media about "not getting respect" and said he wanted to be traded. He's an awful teammate and always has been, if you're gonna try to defend that joker you are barking up the wrong tree.

You’re just making things up. He didn’t even request to be traded. He literally said that the front office already had their mind made up.

That’s what this fanbase doesn’t understand. It’s not about your talent level, or the fact that Gortat got played off the floor. It’s about playing hard and being committed to making the right play every time down the floor. How good was Paul pierce when he was here? He was washed up, at the end of his career, but he played the right way. He called out wall and Beal and even Porter for their commitment to actually winning. It makes no sense whatsoever to point and say “WELL GORTAT ONLY AVERAGED 8 POINTS A GAME SO WHY IS HE TALKING”

[pcbothwel]

Hawks fan view of Dwight- I was never a Dwight fan but once he joined the Hawks, he got a clean slate from me. You will get numbers from him - points and rebounds, that's a given but unfortunately it does not always lead to winning. For a guy his size, he's an unwilling and lazy screen setter since he's more concerned with either looking for a lob or getting the ball and getting the rebound. All Dwight should focus on is rebounding and defense but he's still concerned with post touches that will disrupt your offense flow. He's still not a great post player and what made him great in the post during his Orlando days was his sheer size, speed and athleticism to overpower guys. Unfortunately, he doesn't have that anymore.
Where he is gonna kill you the most is PnR defense....it's really bad. He doesn't like to step up and re-route the guy he's gonna step back so he can look for a rebound first, leaving the shooter with an easy freethrow line shot, over and over again. On the perimter he's just not wuick enough togo out and get back to paint.
Good Luck with Dwight, maybe this is the year he gets 'it.'

I think the big issue with Dwight when he played with Atlanta, is that his lack of touches caused him to be uninvolved in the game. You can say that his post touches disrupt the offense, but if you are going to get a guy like Dwight Howard giving him post touches is the cost of doing business. Would it be nice if Dwight simply decided to be a big man like Capela or D. Jordan or Rudy Gobert? Yes. But that Dwight came into the NBA at a different time. Giving Howard touches, so that he remains invested in the game is a great trade off.

I think our hope going forward, is that the Dwight that we have has matured and is more willing to sacrifice for the team. If not, we aren't paying him a significant amount of money so we could easily move on from him.

That's the problem - he still thinks he's due post touches like he's Orlando Dwight when he was able to overpower and outquick his defenders. He's not that guy anymore. Plus he's not getting double team in the post like his Orlando teams which helped with having shooters. Teams are playing him straight up in the post and he has not done enough over the years to develpment his post game as his athleticism has declined. The most he has is a little running hook shot and sometimes even that is really bad.

One thing that needs to be brought up is his salary. Since 2011, DH12 had the following salary rankings in the NBA:
2011: 9th
2012: 5th
2013: 6th
2014: 4th
2015: 4th
2016: 14th
2017: 23rd
2018: 201st

Yes, I know he is getting his money from the buyout. But the point is the dynamic DRASTICALLY changes with what the team he is playing for owes him and feels the need to cater to his needs.
No team in his entire career had less investment in him before

[JWizmentality]

Windhorsts comments about Gortat make me so mad. Gortat was literally just speaking the truth about this team. No one else wanted to say it because of our mentally fragile team culture and lack of leadership. Wall is 50% of the problem in our pick and roll defense, Wall posting a .515 TS% while taking 16 shots a game is a problem. Wall ranking in the mid 50s for point guards in DRPM is a problem. What do we hear from the media and 90% of the fanbase? All Gortat hate. A 33 year old role player.

Bullcrap. This team has a lot of problems. Not all of it is Wall. Gortat's problem was running his mouth about all the team's issues but never looking in the mirror. I heard Wall address his shortcomings numerous times. When did Gortat?

GTFO.

Did you even read what I posted? That’s the entire point. The media and this fanbase act like the entire issue with this team is Gortat and Otto Porter being passive.

You’ve heard wall address his shortcomings multiple times and never heard Gortat do so? Now you’re just lying.

Your entire post was Wall doesn't get enough blame. Stop picking on Gortat.

[Illmatic12]

Did you even read what I posted? That’s the entire point. The media and this fanbase act like the entire issue with this team is Gortat and Otto Porter being passive.

You’ve heard wall address his shortcomings multiple times and never heard Gortat do so? Now you’re just lying.

Did Gortat take responsibility for being played off the floor in the playoffs?
No, he cried to the media about "not getting respect" and said he wanted to be traded. He's an awful teammate and always has been, if you're gonna try to defend that joker you are barking up the wrong tree.

You’re just making things up. He didn’t even request to be traded. He literally said that the front office already had their mind made up.

That’s what this fanbase doesn’t understand. It’s not about your talent level, or the fact that Gortat got played off the floor. It’s about playing hard and being committed to making the right play every time down the floor. How good was Paul pierce when he was here? He was washed up, at the end of his career, but he played the right way. He called out wall and Beal and even Porter for their commitment to actually winning. It makes no sense whatsoever to point and say “WELL GORTAT ONLY AVERAGED 8 POINTS A GAME SO WHY IS HE TALKING”

Wall averaged 26/10 in the playoffs, he looked committed to me. What about the guy who was talking about wanting to retire in Orlando in the middle of a season, how committed was he?

John had every right to complain about Gortat and his presence on the team. Why was he a starter on a team that had playoff aspirations? A slow/lazy big who doesn't defend the PnR, doesn't rebound, doesn't set screens and actively holds the team back in the playoffs.

What you don't seem to understand is that no franchise committed to winning would give a 5yr contract to a 30yo unathletic center who can't do anything other than PnR and set illegal screens.

[NatP4]

Bullcrap. This team has a lot of problems. Not all of it is Wall. Gortat's problem was running his mouth about all the team's issues but never looking in the mirror. I heard Wall address his shortcomings numerous times. When did Gortat?

GTFO.

Did you even read what I posted? That’s the entire point. The media and this fanbase act like the entire issue with this team is Gortat and Otto Porter being passive.

You’ve heard wall address his shortcomings multiple times and never heard Gortat do so? Now you’re just lying.

Your entire post was Wall doesn't get enough blame. Stop picking on Gortat.

Windhorst was talking about Wall and Gortat, that’s why I mentioned wall. The narrative is “blame Gortat for everything, Wall is responsible for all of his success, bla bla bla” the national media literally has no clue about any John Wall flaws. They don’t even watch the wizards play.

Look at Beals GF, she jumps on Twitter blaming a guy that has averaged a double double for YEARS, for not getting enough rebounds, when Morris literally averages 5 per game. The national media has never said anything about Morris being total garbage, maybe I should’ve mentioned him instead, but again, he’s not the topic in the video.

[NatP4]

Did Gortat take responsibility for being played off the floor in the playoffs?
No, he cried to the media about "not getting respect" and said he wanted to be traded. He's an awful teammate and always has been, if you're gonna try to defend that joker you are barking up the wrong tree.

You’re just making things up. He didn’t even request to be traded. He literally said that the front office already had their mind made up.

That’s what this fanbase doesn’t understand. It’s not about your talent level, or the fact that Gortat got played off the floor. It’s about playing hard and being committed to making the right play every time down the floor. How good was Paul pierce when he was here? He was washed up, at the end of his career, but he played the right way. He called out wall and Beal and even Porter for their commitment to actually winning. It makes no sense whatsoever to point and say “WELL GORTAT ONLY AVERAGED 8 POINTS A GAME SO WHY IS HE TALKING”

Wall averaged 26/10 in the playoffs, he looked committed to me. What about the guy who was talking about wanting to retire in Orlando in the middle of a season, how committed was he?

John had every right to complain about Gortat and his presence on the team. Why was he a starter on a team that had playoff aspirations? A slow/lazy big who doesn't defend the PnR, doesn't rebound, doesn't set screens and actively holds the team back in the playoffs.

What you don't seem to understand is that no franchise committed to winning would give a 5yr contract to a 30yo unathletic center who can't do anything other than PnR and set illegal screens.

What a dumb post. Gortat is not lazy, Gortat was a solid PNR defender for years, Gortat does rebound, obviously. “Doesn’t set screens” what?

We aren’t talking about the playoffs here, I’ve acknowledged that Wall was a beast in the playoffs countless times. Gortat made these comments during the season, obviously. Wall was terrible in the regular season, his defense was awful. He was an inefficient chucker. We all know this.

Gortat was a good player for the wizards. Wall doesn’t have every right to complain about anyone on the team. Not until he plays hard and makes an effort to make the right play everytime down the court, and even then, complaining about teammates is horrible leadership, especially from the franchise leader. Just watch Chris Paul, the best competitor in the game, always trying to make the right play, never takes a play off. That’s why he was the Nba leader in RPM. He’s a monster.

And again, you simply don’t get it. You immediately start posting John wall stats and picking apart gortats ability level. It doesn’t f****** matter. It doesn’t matter if Wall averages 100 points and Gortat averages 0 points and 15 turnovers per game. Leadership is about playing hard and playing be right way no matter what. It’s not about ability, it’s about playing the right way. Simple stuff. Leadership 101.

[Illmatic12]

You’re just making things up. He didn’t even request to be traded. He literally said that the front office already had their mind made up.

That’s what this fanbase doesn’t understand. It’s not about your talent level, or the fact that Gortat got played off the floor. It’s about playing hard and being committed to making the right play every time down the floor. How good was Paul pierce when he was here? He was washed up, at the end of his career, but he played the right way. He called out wall and Beal and even Porter for their commitment to actually winning. It makes no sense whatsoever to point and say “WELL GORTAT ONLY AVERAGED 8 POINTS A GAME SO WHY IS HE TALKING”

Wall averaged 26/10 in the playoffs, he looked committed to me. What about the guy who was talking about wanting to retire in Orlando in the middle of a season, how committed was he?

John had every right to complain about Gortat and his presence on the team. Why was he a starter on a team that had playoff aspirations? A slow/lazy big who doesn't defend the PnR, doesn't rebound, doesn't set screens and actively holds the team back in the playoffs.

What you don't seem to understand is that no franchise committed to winning would give a 5yr contract to a 30yo unathletic center who can't do anything other than PnR and set illegal screens.

What a dumb post. Gortat is not lazy, Gortat was a solid PNR defender for years, Gortat does rebound, obviously. “Doesn’t set screens” what?

We aren’t talking about the playoffs here, I’ve acknowledged that Wall was a beast in the playoffs countless times. Gortat made these comments during the season, obviously. Wall was terrible in the regular season, his defense was awful. He was an inefficient chucker. We all know this.

Gortat was a good player for the wizards. Wall doesn’t have every right to complain about anyone on the team. Not until he plays hard and makes an effort to make the right play everytime down the court, and even then, complaining about teammates is horrible leadership, especially from the franchise leader. Just watch Chris Paul, the best competitor in the game, always trying to make the right play, never takes a play off. That’s why he was the Nba leader in RPM. He’s a monster.

And again, you simply don’t get it. You immediately start posting John wall stats and picking apart gortats ability level. It doesn’t f****** matter. It doesn’t matter if Wall averages 100 points and Gortat averages 0 points and 15 turnovers per game. Leadership is about playing hard and playing be right way no matter what. It’s not about ability, it’s about playing the right way. Simple stuff. Leadership 101.

I literally remember you arguing with me several months ago that Wall has "never carried the team" and that Otto has a better track record. I could pull up that convo again but there's no need.. glad you've come around.

And John Wall was injured during the season. To Gortat -- don't call out a teammate who was playing through injury (while trying to carry your old *** like a backpack, no less). Gortat was mostly passable in his tenure here but consistently limited our ceiling against great teams. He got outplayed in the playoffs nearly every series he played for us. And last season he was awful all-around, regular season and playoffs.

You can talk about leadership and "playing the right way" and all sorts of imaginary intangibles, but the bottom line is that John Wall's "leadership" isn't the reason why the team hasn't had more success.. that's a red herring argument that handwaves the real issues with the team.

[JWizmentality]

Did you even read what I posted? That’s the entire point. The media and this fanbase act like the entire issue with this team is Gortat and Otto Porter being passive.

You’ve heard wall address his shortcomings multiple times and never heard Gortat do so? Now you’re just lying.

Your entire post was Wall doesn't get enough blame. Stop picking on Gortat.

Windhorst was talking about Wall and Gortat, that’s why I mentioned wall. The narrative is “blame Gortat for everything, Wall is responsible for all of his success, bla bla bla” the national media literally has no clue about any John Wall flaws. They don’t even watch the wizards play.

Look at Beals GF, she jumps on Twitter blaming a guy that has averaged a double double for YEARS, for not getting enough rebounds, when Morris literally averages 5 per game. The national media has never said anything about Morris being total garbage, maybe I should’ve mentioned him instead, but again, he’s not the topic in the video.

If you don't want the media spotlight on you. Shut yo damn mouth! Your argument boils down to "God I wish the media knew how terrible John Wall was." Which is why you man crush Gortat so much. He flew your Wall banner high and proud. To what end and purpose, my friend? We know his flaws. And the media has called out the entire team, namely Wall AND Beal (who always conveniently escapes your vitriol) who like to run their mouths about how good they are.

Hopefully, everyone stops talking and focuses on winning this year...will be much more quiet without Gortat. They can suck in silence.

[nate33]

Seems like he has his own personal issues that he needs to take to heart..

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I love it when losers who have never played competitive sports speak about athletes in that manner.

I really hate this tactic of attacking an individual personally to try to discredit him, when it has nothing to do with the argument at hand. The fact that Russillo got stupid drunk one night has no bearing on his take that the Wizards are overconfident and have done nothing to deserve the high self-esteem that they evidently have.

[NatP4]

Your entire post was Wall doesn't get enough blame. Stop picking on Gortat.

Windhorst was talking about Wall and Gortat, that’s why I mentioned wall. The narrative is “blame Gortat for everything, Wall is responsible for all of his success, bla bla bla” the national media literally has no clue about any John Wall flaws. They don’t even watch the wizards play.

Look at Beals GF, she jumps on Twitter blaming a guy that has averaged a double double for YEARS, for not getting enough rebounds, when Morris literally averages 5 per game. The national media has never said anything about Morris being total garbage, maybe I should’ve mentioned him instead, but again, he’s not the topic in the video.

If you don't want the media spotlight on you. Shut yo damn mouth! Your argument boils down to "God I wish the media knew how terrible John Wall was." Which is why you man crush Gortat so much. He flew your Wall banner high and proud. To what end and purpose, my friend? We know his flaws. And the media has called out the entire team, namely Wall AND Beal (who always conveniently escapes your vitriol) who like to run their mouths about how good they are.

Hopefully, everyone stops talking and focuses on winning this year...will be much more quiet without Gortat. They can suck in silence.

I mean, yes, I am glad that Wall received a little backlash from team mates, maybe it helped a little bit with his playoff performance, maybe not. He needed to be called out to a certain extent. Brooks even called him out for his defense.

Do I think it was 99% just him getting back to healthy? Yeah probably.

I really don’t have a problem with Beal. I know you hate the guy, but he plays hard, and he’s unselfish. It’s not like he’s trying to suck in crunch time. He wasn’t as good in 2017-2018 as he was in 2016-2017, but he was still really good.

My argument is simple “Gortat is the guy that receives all of the blame, but he was just speaking the truth” I’m no Gortat fanboy, I was complaining about the guy all playoffs. He’s way better than Morris though.

[payitforward]

I often disagree with Nat, no secret about that. But, in this case, I'm happy to support his overall point: Marcin Gortat was a heck of a player for us.

Kicking the guy who just walked out the door isn't my idea of the right way to act.

[Wizardspride]

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[JWizmentality]

I often disagree with Nat, no secret about that. But, in this case, I'm happy to support his overall point: Marcin Gortat was a heck of a player for us.

Kicking the guy who just walked out the door isn't my idea of the right way to act.

Then even more so for kicking the guy who has been our best player since Arenas and still here no?

Yes, Gortat was great for us. Wish him well. But the perception that the media was heaping all the blame on him is incorrect. Gortat decided to complain to the media and when you're the first one to open your mouth. You attract that microscope. Truth or not. If you're going to point out the flaws in someone else, you best be ready to look in the mirror.

[deneem4]

I often disagree with Nat, no secret about that. But, in this case, I'm happy to support his overall point: Marcin Gortat was a heck of a player for us.

Kicking the guy who just walked out the door isn't my idea of the right way to act.

Then even more so for kicking the guy who has been our best player since Arenas and still here no?

Yes, Gortat was great for us. Wish him well. But the perception that the media was heaping all the blame on him is incorrect. Gortat decided to complain to the media and when you're the first one to open your mouth. You attract that microscope. Truth or not. If you're going to point out the flaws in someone else, you best be ready to look in the mirror.

Gortat sucked the last 2 years and he has limited this period...name a worst starting center

[JWizmentality]

I often disagree with Nat, no secret about that. But, in this case, I'm happy to support his overall point: Marcin Gortat was a heck of a player for us.

Kicking the guy who just walked out the door isn't my idea of the right way to act.

Then even more so for kicking the guy who has been our best player since Arenas and still here no?

Yes, Gortat was great for us. Wish him well. But the perception that the media was heaping all the blame on him is incorrect. Gortat decided to complain to the media and when you're the first one to open your mouth. You attract that microscope. Truth or not. If you're going to point out the flaws in someone else, you best be ready to look in the mirror.

Gortat sucked the last 2 years and he has limited this period...name a worst starting center

Gortat was far from the worst starting Center in the NBA. Not even I'll go that far.

[payitforward]

Gortat didn't suck the last two years. & Wall isn't as good as fans think he is (which isn't a criticism of him). What went down between them you have no idea.

This kind of discussion where 'I've got my hero, & I will defend my hero. He who knocks my hero is a villain' is about the movies not about the real world.

[prime1time]

Did Gortat take responsibility for being played off the floor in the playoffs?
No, he cried to the media about "not getting respect" and said he wanted to be traded. He's an awful teammate and always has been, if you're gonna try to defend that joker you are barking up the wrong tree.

You’re just making things up. He didn’t even request to be traded. He literally said that the front office already had their mind made up.

That’s what this fanbase doesn’t understand. It’s not about your talent level, or the fact that Gortat got played off the floor. It’s about playing hard and being committed to making the right play every time down the floor. How good was Paul pierce when he was here? He was washed up, at the end of his career, but he played the right way. He called out wall and Beal and even Porter for their commitment to actually winning. It makes no sense whatsoever to point and say “WELL GORTAT ONLY AVERAGED 8 POINTS A GAME SO WHY IS HE TALKING”

Wall averaged 26/10 in the playoffs, he looked committed to me. What about the guy who was talking about wanting to retire in Orlando in the middle of a season, how committed was he?

John had every right to complain about Gortat and his presence on the team. Why was he a starter on a team that had playoff aspirations? A slow/lazy big who doesn't defend the PnR, doesn't rebound, doesn't set screens and actively holds the team back in the playoffs.

What you don't seem to understand is that no franchise committed to winning would give a 5yr contract to a 30yo unathletic center who can't do anything other than PnR and set illegal screens.

While it is certainly true that Wall put up good numbers in the playoffs, they came at the expense of the ball movement offense that worked well while John was injured. Ball movement dissapeared, and we turned to the Beal and Wall show. Porter was reduced to a spot up shooter, and Wall called his own number way too many times. Eventually the offense devolved in to John driving with reckless abandon to the hoop with the goal of drawing fouls instead of finishing. Other than the random series against the Hawks 2 years ago and a couple other random games, any time you talk about Wall scoring a lot of points the team is worse off. Porter is drastically more efficient than Wall, but Wall insists on calling his own number. If John Wall bought into the team concept where he might sometimes not be the "star" this team would be drastically better off. Hopefully as he matures, his superman complex will fade away.

[deneem4]

Then even more so for kicking the guy who has been our best player since Arenas and still here no?

Yes, Gortat was great for us. Wish him well. But the perception that the media was heaping all the blame on him is incorrect. Gortat decided to complain to the media and when you're the first one to open your mouth. You attract that microscope. Truth or not. If you're going to point out the flaws in someone else, you best be ready to look in the mirror.

Gortat sucked the last 2 years and he has limited this period...name a worst starting center

Gortat was far from the worst starting Center in the NBA. Not even I'll go that far.

Name worse one...warriors dont count

[Illmatic12]

You’re just making things up. He didn’t even request to be traded. He literally said that the front office already had their mind made up.

That’s what this fanbase doesn’t understand. It’s not about your talent level, or the fact that Gortat got played off the floor. It’s about playing hard and being committed to making the right play every time down the floor. How good was Paul pierce when he was here? He was washed up, at the end of his career, but he played the right way. He called out wall and Beal and even Porter for their commitment to actually winning. It makes no sense whatsoever to point and say “WELL GORTAT ONLY AVERAGED 8 POINTS A GAME SO WHY IS HE TALKING”

Wall averaged 26/10 in the playoffs, he looked committed to me. What about the guy who was talking about wanting to retire in Orlando in the middle of a season, how committed was he?

John had every right to complain about Gortat and his presence on the team. Why was he a starter on a team that had playoff aspirations? A slow/lazy big who doesn't defend the PnR, doesn't rebound, doesn't set screens and actively holds the team back in the playoffs.

What you don't seem to understand is that no franchise committed to winning would give a 5yr contract to a 30yo unathletic center who can't do anything other than PnR and set illegal screens.

While it is certainly true that Wall put up good numbers in the playoffs, they came at the expense of the ball movement offense that worked well while John was injured. Ball movement dissapeared, and we turned to the Beal and Wall show. Porter was reduced to a spot up shooter, and Wall called his own number way too many times. Eventually the offense devolved in to John driving with reckless abandon to the hoop with the goal of drawing fouls instead of finishing. Other than the random series against the Hawks 2 years ago and a couple other random games, any time you talk about Wall scoring a lot of points the team is worse off. Porter is drastically more efficient than Wall, but Wall insists on calling his own number. If John Wall bought into the team concept where he might sometimes not be the "star" this team would be drastically better off. Hopefully as he matures, his superman complex will fade away.

What you mean to say is that Otto completely disappeared in the playoffs - you can say his injury was a factor- and the Wizards had no chance at advancing in any playoff series we’ve ever had without Wall & Beal going insane .

I just have one question - are you trying to troll to be funny or to get a reaction? Was the team better off when Otto got outplayed by a rookie Taurean Prince in a playoff series? And the team was worse when Wall dropped 40 in a close out game on the road?

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This playoffs when Beal fouled out of Game 4 and John played out of his mind to carry the team, we were worse off? Can anyone else tell me if this guy is serious or a troll

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The funny thing is, I can tell someone didn’t watch the Raptors series or doesn’t understand basketball to think John Wall was somehow hurting the Wizards team. Wall was the only reason Washington even won 2 games vs Toronto, and his play in the postseason over the past few years has been masking a lot of the problems with the team. If John played like Kyle Lowry usually does in the postseason (except minus the Raptors bench) and the Wizards kept losing on the first round, players like Gortat and Otto would have been traded from this roster a long time ago.