The Celtics have a decision to make on Kyrie soon

[Baller1234a]

No, that's his 'regular' max. He'll be eligible for the designated veteran max which is a 5 for 219mil deal.

No he's not eligible for that. Designated Veteran or "Supermax" contracts can only be given to players who are on the team that drafted them or a team that traded for they while they were on their rookie contract. Kyrie knowingly gave the possibly for Supermax up when he requested and received a trade from the Cavs.

Okay, noted. 5/187 deal. Still a hefty a commitment.

That's a difference of about ~5mil a season.

That’s the same offer a Kemba or Middleton might get (a max). Plus he most likely take a 3+1 for the supermax at year 10 which would make the total 145,152,000 / 4 if he accepts the PO or $ 104,976,000 / 3 if he declines it.

[bisme37]

I think he ends up staying there for right now. Really have to see how well he comes back from his injury.

He's actually not even recovering from an injury. He's recovering from a successful surgery to remove an infection. He's about a week away from 5-on-5 play, he's pain free in his knee for the 1st time in 3 years, and there's no additional problem going on. I expect him to be a monster this season.

[wolves_89]

Wouldn't the max extension the Celtics could offer Irving be similar to what the Wolves offered Butler? I believe the max extension that Boston can offer Irving this off-season would be 4 years/$108M (the max the Wolves could offer Butler was 4 years/$110M).

[Benedict_Boozer]

I would trade him now if I was Boston. Very likely he walks, kyrie is a different dude


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[Froob]

Kyrie will remind everyone how good he is this season. Rozier is nowhere close to Kyrie as much as I love him.

Kyrie is one of the best playoff performers in the league. And it isn’t all LeBron, he’s straight up trashed Avery Bradley making difficult shot after difficult shot. Warriors had absolutely no answer for him.

[Homerclease]

I would trade him now if I was Boston. Very likely he walks, kyrie is a different dude


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Why is it very likely he walks again?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

He is looking to move to the Knicks or Nets so he can start working on his very own Broadway play - Uncle Drew: The Musical. I'm being dead serious, guys. He's caught the acting bug and wants to perform live on stage. This is what I'm hearing.

[zimpy27]

I would trade him now if I was Boston. Very likely he walks, kyrie is a different dude


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Why is it very likely he walks again?

His goals aren't to be on the best team possible. His goals are to be a better player and the leader of a team.

It's hard to know if he feels that way on Boston but given that he has 29 other options the odds aren't so good.

[Homerclease]

I would trade him now if I was Boston. Very likely he walks, kyrie is a different dude


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Why is it very likely he walks again?

His goals aren't to be on the best team possible. His goals are to be a better player and the leader of a team.

It's hard to know if he feels that way on Boston but given that he has 29 other options the odds aren't so good.

You didn’t answer the question

[The_Hater]

Make no mistake about it, if Danny Ainge thinks for even a second that Kyrie is leaving, he will trade him during the season. Ainge understands better than anyone that the least valuable asset is the one that walks away for nothing.

[IgorK]

Kyrie is the only legitimate superstar on that team. Scary Terry is nice but he didn't hit a Game 7 winning shot for all the marbles. Ainge will eventually give Kyrie whatever Kyrie wants.

[zimpy27]

Why is it very likely he walks again?

His goals aren't to be on the best team possible. His goals are to be a better player and the leader of a team.

It's hard to know if he feels that way on Boston but given that he has 29 other options the odds aren't so good.

You didn’t answer the question

Well they're are probably 3 other teams that he would prefer to play for given what he has said in the past, playing for Knicks, Nets, Clippers.

Even if they were equally likely, it's still 75% likely that he leaves.

[Homerclease]

His goals aren't to be on the best team possible. His goals are to be a better player and the leader of a team.

It's hard to know if he feels that way on Boston but given that he has 29 other options the odds aren't so good.

You didn’t answer the question

Well they're are probably 3 other teams that he would prefer to play for given what he has said in the past, playing for Knicks, Nets, Clippers.

Even if they were equally likely, it's still 75% likely that he leaves.

Do you have any proof that he prefers any of those teams to the Boston Celtics?

[AussieBuck]

No he's not eligible for that. Designated Veteran or "Supermax" contracts can only be given to players who are on the team that drafted them or a team that traded for they while they were on their rookie contract. Kyrie knowingly gave the possibly for Supermax up when he requested and received a trade from the Cavs.

Okay, noted. 5/187 deal. Still a hefty a commitment.

That's a difference of about ~5mil a season.

That’s the same offer a Kemba or Middleton might get (a max). Plus he most likely take a 3+1 for the supermax at year 10 which would make the total 145,152,000 / 4 if he accepts the PO or $ 104,976,000 / 3 if he declines it.

I guess "might" is true in the sense that it's not impossible and the Wiggins deal is a good example of that but I really doubt anyone wants to pay Middleton over 35 million a season.

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[bisme37]

His goals aren't to be on the best team possible. His goals are to be a better player and the leader of a team.

It's hard to know if he feels that way on Boston but given that he has 29 other options the odds aren't so good.

You didn’t answer the question

Well they're are probably 3 other teams that he would prefer to play for given what he has said in the past, playing for Knicks, Nets, Clippers.

Even if they were equally likely, it's still 75% likely that he leaves.

Wait... what has he said in the past? All he's said is how much he loves his coach and teammates and how his priority is to win a title this year and handle free agency when he's a free agent. That's what everyone says. The Knicks/Nets thing is coming from the NY media and the Clippers I don't even get it.

[Baller1234a]

Okay, noted. 5/187 deal. Still a hefty a commitment.

That's a difference of about ~5mil a season.

That’s the same offer a Kemba or Middleton might get (a max). Plus he most likely take a 3+1 for the supermax at year 10 which would make the total 145,152,000 / 4 if he accepts the PO or $ 104,976,000 / 3 if he declines it.

I guess "might" is true in the sense that it's not impossible and the Wiggins deal is a good example of that but I really doubt anyone wants to pay Middleton over 35 million a season.

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I mean that’s what they’re talking about over on the 76er board, to give Butler and Middleton a max contract offer. I would think the Bucks would offer the same.

[AussieBuck]

That’s the same offer a Kemba or Middleton might get (a max). Plus he most likely take a 3+1 for the supermax at year 10 which would make the total 145,152,000 / 4 if he accepts the PO or $ 104,976,000 / 3 if he declines it.

I guess "might" is true in the sense that it's not impossible and the Wiggins deal is a good example of that but I really doubt anyone wants to pay Middleton over 35 million a season.

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I mean that’s what they’re talking about over on the 76er board, to give Butler and Middleton a max contract offer. I would think the Bucks would offer the same.

Damn, we'd be absolutely **** for talent outside of Giannis but I couldn't imagine wanting to pay Mids that much. I'd have to let him walk at that figure and I love the guy.

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[Dupp]

188/5 is a lot better than 220/5 sobthat changes my view a little.

220- 188 = 32

[Throwback24]

After this season he's on a $21mil PO in which he will decline and become a FA.

Note that after this season, Terry Rozier will also be a RFA with a cap hold of over $9mil, Jaylen Brown will be on the last year of his rookie contract expecting a max deal, and Jayson Tatum two years after that. Gordon Hayward will still be owed over $66mil.

Kyrie's max deal for the Celtics is a 5 yr $219.2mil contract, which would start at $37.8mil in 19-20 and a whopping $49.8mil in 22-23.

With that in mind, how should the Celtics approach this situation?

His max is a $ 187,920,000/5 years deal with the last year at 42M

No, that's his 'regular' max. He'll be eligible for the designated veteran max which is a 5 for 219mil deal.

I would like to see him get that.

[clyde21]

188/5 is a lot better than 220/5 sobthat changes my view a little.

220- 188 = 32

$6mil a year variance. Not a huge deal in the context of this conversation though.