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Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019

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Re: Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019 

Post#41 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 3, 2018 3:25 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't get the point of trading for Kemba specifically tbh.

As for other stars, that is hard too, if the point is to attract Irving as a free agent and he really would like to play with one of Butler or Kawhi.

The point of trading for Kemba, if we want him, is that his cap hold will be much lower than what he'll get on the open market. If one of your "max targets" has only an $18mil hold, that is a very easy way to fit multiple maxes in.

I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Kemba at that kind of money, personally. Really at any realistic number for him. He's a really good player, but I'd rather just keep the in house rebuild going if a guy like Kyrie or Kawhi isn't coming here.

If not, wait til after the smoke of free agency clears and maybe make a move for a guy like McCollum.


I've been low key thinking about this too. I think McCollum would be a good trade target especially if things go south in Portland (i hear Dame is going to bolt).
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Re: Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019 

Post#42 » by Claud » Fri Aug 3, 2018 9:21 pm

Prok & others why are you guys so down on Levert? Am I taking crazy pills or something?

To me he already is at minimum a starting quality NBA player with a possibility to reach Jimmy Butler type ceiling. Star but maybe not superstar.

He definitely needs to clean up his game, but he is young and barely now starting to get his body right. Next season he will look even stronger and faster. He isn't LBJ type athlete but some of you guy make him sound like a bum athletically speaking.

Last season he was cooking athletic guards 1v1 when he was handling the ball in PnRs.

In my mind Levert is our #1 penetrator/creator as I look across the roster. Din and Russ are different types of guards.

To me Levert and Allen are the two guys I want to build around. Unsure about RHJ, Russ and Din. I think Musa can surprise a lot of folks.

The dream is to get Kyrie + Kawhi added to Levert + Fro. That team would be absolutely filthy. One can dream :D
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Re: Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019 

Post#43 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 3, 2018 9:46 pm

Claud wrote:Prok & others why are you guys so down on Levert? Am I taking crazy pills or something?

To me he already is at minimum a starting quality NBA player with a possibility to reach Jimmy Butler type ceiling. Star but maybe not superstar.


I dont think he has reached starting quality NBA player yet. not with how he defends and with how inconsistent he is. he does alot of things above average... maybe nearly everything above average. but not really good at any one thing.

i just dont see anything near an all-star ceiling given he doesnt have any great skill, isnt a great athlete, doesnt play above the rim,etc.... the only path to all-star i see for him is if he can be a full time PG and excel there, so i hope he gets more burn at PG. otherwsie i see him as a top notch role guy, and there is nothing wrong with that given he was drafted at #21

He needs to defend alot better, get alot better getting to the rim, and become a knockdown shooter.
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Re: Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019 

Post#44 » by MGrand15 » Sat Aug 4, 2018 2:21 am

Claud wrote:Prok & others why are you guys so down on Levert? Am I taking crazy pills or something?

To me he already is at minimum a starting quality NBA player with a possibility to reach Jimmy Butler type ceiling. Star but maybe not superstar.

He definitely needs to clean up his game, but he is young and barely now starting to get his body right. Next season he will look even stronger and faster. He isn't LBJ type athlete but some of you guy make him sound like a bum athletically speaking.

Last season he was cooking athletic guards 1v1 when he was handling the ball in PnRs.

In my mind Levert is our #1 penetrator/creator as I look across the roster. Din and Russ are different types of guards.

To me Levert and Allen are the two guys I want to build around. Unsure about RHJ, Russ and Din. I think Musa can surprise a lot of folks.

The dream is to get Kyrie + Kawhi added to Levert + Fro. That team would be absolutely filthy. One can dream :D


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Re: Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019 

Post#45 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Aug 4, 2018 2:25 am

Claud wrote:Prok & others why are you guys so down on Levert? Am I taking crazy pills or something?

To me he already is at minimum a starting quality NBA player with a possibility to reach Jimmy Butler type ceiling. Star but maybe not superstar.

He definitely needs to clean up his game, but he is young and barely now starting to get his body right. Next season he will look even stronger and faster. He isn't LBJ type athlete but some of you guy make him sound like a bum athletically speaking.

Last season he was cooking athletic guards 1v1 when he was handling the ball in PnRs.

In my mind Levert is our #1 penetrator/creator as I look across the roster. Din and Russ are different types of guards.

To me Levert and Allen are the two guys I want to build around. Unsure about RHJ, Russ and Din. I think Musa can surprise a lot of folks.

The dream is to get Kyrie + Kawhi added to Levert + Fro. That team would be absolutely filthy. One can dream :D


Prok is pretty much the only one who has written him off. I'm not going to do that because I saw too much potential from him last season running the offense and he really is a mentally tough kid imo because he started the season off horrifically and he kept his head on straight and got it together. That shouldn't go unnoticed. I think he definitely can develop into a solid starting caliber backcourt player.

He just needs to become more consistent, and strong enough to get around screens and deal with lengthier line ups. I think he has one of the best bball IQs on the team, excellent ball handle, and attacks the basket hard north to south. In no way shape or form should we be capping his potential right now. I think he's going to have a huge season especially since he's been in the gym getting stronger. But he has got to give us consistent production 4 out of every 5 nights. Right now, just like Russell, he is up one night and then down the next. If we're going to count him as a building block, LeVert needs to show that he can be reliable every night.

I'm not sure how you're unsure of RHJ, who was the best overall player on the team last season and the most consistent producer across the board but you're penciling in LeVert as a guy you want to build around. RHJ outplayed LeVert on both ends the entire season and was the most consistent player on the team. If Hollis Jefferson's 3point shot shows promise this season the conversation will change in a dramatic fashion
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Re: Doing the Math: How to Sign 2 Max FAs in 2019 

Post#46 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Aug 4, 2018 2:30 am

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Claud wrote:Prok & others why are you guys so down on Levert? Am I taking crazy pills or something?

To me he already is at minimum a starting quality NBA player with a possibility to reach Jimmy Butler type ceiling. Star but maybe not superstar.


I dont think he has reached starting quality NBA player yet. not with how he defends and with how inconsistent he is. he does alot of things above average... maybe nearly everything above average. but not really good at any one thing.

i just dont see anything near an all-star ceiling given he doesnt have any great skill, isnt a great athlete, doesnt play above the rim,etc.... the only path to all-star i see for him is if he can be a full time PG and excel there, so i hope he gets more burn at PG. otherwsie i see him as a top notch role guy, and there is nothing wrong with that given he was drafted at #21

He needs to defend alot better, get alot better getting to the rim, and become a knockdown shooter.


I think at PG is where he really showed some high level, quality play. I think if he can defend better and get that 3point shot into the 37% range that will be huge for him.

I think he's good at getting to the rim, but I've noticed that he's not as effective versus line ups with length. Milwaukee comes to mind.

I see no reason as to why he cannot develop into a solid NBA starter at bare minimum.
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