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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)


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Post#1242 » by Rich Rane » Wed Aug 1, 2018 6:38 pm

If anyone feels like being sick to their stomach, please read Manafort's daughter's leaked texts. What a :censored: scumbag of a person.
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Post#1243 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 1, 2018 7:24 pm

I read about him yesterday...once I got to the stuff about their mother I stopped.

I hope he's ready to die in jail.
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Post#1244 » by Rich Rane » Sat Aug 4, 2018 2:12 pm

Aaaand the POTUS went after LeBron, just after LeBron built a school for at risk kids. What a dumbass.
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Post#1247 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Aug 4, 2018 5:48 pm

Rich Rane wrote:Aaaand the POTUS went after LeBron, just after LeBron built a school for at risk kids. What a dumbass.


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Donald Trump Jr. just got thrown under the bus, headfirst with his pants around his ankles.

If Don Jr. was smart, which he isn't, he would be running towards Mueller's offices tomorrow morning first thing to save his own ass because this is some serious **** his dad just implicated him in.
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Post#1250 » by gigantes » Thu Aug 9, 2018 7:19 pm

One thing I've been saddened by is a somewhat widespread, tired / disgusted reaction about "all the relentless Trump hate." I notice the people reacting that way seem be on the middle-to-left part of the spectrum and seem to take a pretty casual approach to following news and politics.

Their mindset seems to be something like-- "I understand Trump isn't a great president, but it's just so unfair or even hateful for him to be getting such nonstop backlash."

Now, I do understand that most people prefer not to to kick someone when they're down, and that most people will naturally kind of stick up for the underdog and/or those getting attacked. That's just social nature and our built-in justice system, etc.

And so, predictably... the majority of the media and people who keep critiquing Trump start to be seen as "haters" by this group. But I think the real-er problem there goes back to themselves and their overly casual approach-- that they've essentially been lazy about understanding political events and are irritated not to have more interesting stuff to entertain them, or whatnot.

Meanwhile you have a different, slightly overlapping group of casuals who mainly voted for Trump as an FU to the system, or to the left, or because they thought it would be wicked funny and that sort of thing.

I guess my point is-- both groups still don't seem to grasp what a terrible choice Trump was (including at the Primary stage), and how his administration will indeed, directly cause most of them, their friends and families, real hardships down the road. So what do they do now...... double down?!
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Post#1251 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 9, 2018 8:32 pm

Trump had children taken away from their parents and put into cages. We don't even have to get into the rest of the laundry list of filthy things this animal has done during the first two years of his term. Just that fact alone makes me think that anyone who still defends him at this point is nothing short of vile.
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Post#1252 » by Roy Tarpley » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:02 pm

gigantes wrote:One thing I've been saddened by is a somewhat widespread, tired / disgusted reaction about "all the relentless Trump hate." I notice the people reacting that way seem be on the middle-to-left part of the spectrum and seem to take a pretty casual approach to following news and politics.


You mean middle-to-right? I don't know of any on the left who are tolerant of Trump.
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Post#1253 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:
gigantes wrote:One thing I've been saddened by is a somewhat widespread, tired / disgusted reaction about "all the relentless Trump hate." I notice the people reacting that way seem be on the middle-to-left part of the spectrum and seem to take a pretty casual approach to following news and politics.


You mean middle-to-right? I don't know of any on the left who are tolerant of Trump.


You'd be surprised. Racism and tolerance of it isn't necessarily an exclusive feature of the center-right.
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Post#1254 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:49 pm

gigantes wrote:One thing I've been saddened by is a somewhat widespread, tired / disgusted reaction about "all the relentless Trump hate." I notice the people reacting that way seem be on the middle-to-left part of the spectrum and seem to take a pretty casual approach to following news and politics.

Their mindset seems to be something like-- "I understand Trump isn't a great president, but it's just so unfair or even hateful for him to be getting such nonstop backlash."

Now, I do understand that most people prefer not to to kick someone when they're down, and that most people will naturally kind of stick up for the underdog and/or those getting attacked. That's just social nature and our built-in justice system, etc.

And so, predictably... the majority of the media and people who keep critiquing Trump start to be seen as "haters" by this group. But I think the real-er problem there goes back to themselves and their overly casual approach-- that they've essentially been lazy about understanding political events and are irritated not to have more interesting stuff to entertain them, or whatnot.

Meanwhile you have a different, slightly overlapping group of casuals who mainly voted for Trump as an FU to the system, or to the left, or because they thought it would be wicked funny and that sort of thing.

I guess my point is-- both groups still don't seem to grasp what a terrible choice Trump was (including at the Primary stage), and how his administration will indeed, directly cause most of them, their friends and families, real hardships down the road. So what do they do now...... double down?!


i mean, who cares what those people say? anyone who still supports, and really anyone that voted trump is either ignorant to the racial and class issues in this coountry, is an outright racist/doesnt care about the poor, or simply doesnt value human life or equality.

it is the biggest travesty of our lifetime that trump was even a candidate, let alone a president. the fact that people can discount even just the unprofessional tone of his tweets and lack of respect for others is unfathomable
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Post#1256 » by Roy Tarpley » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:50 pm

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Roy Tarpley wrote:
gigantes wrote:One thing I've been saddened by is a somewhat widespread, tired / disgusted reaction about "all the relentless Trump hate." I notice the people reacting that way seem be on the middle-to-left part of the spectrum and seem to take a pretty casual approach to following news and politics.


You mean middle-to-right? I don't know of any on the left who are tolerant of Trump.


You'd be surprised. Racism and tolerance of it isn't necessarily an exclusive feature of the center-right.


I don't know about those on the left who tolerate Trump, but I'm definitely aware and skeptical of white liberals, like in Oregon!

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/white-liberal-racism-why-progressives-are-unable-to-see-their-own-bigotry.html
https://www.vox.com/2017/1/18/14296126/white-segregated-suburb-neighborhood-cartoon
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Post#1257 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:20 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
You mean middle-to-right? I don't know of any on the left who are tolerant of Trump.


You'd be surprised. Racism and tolerance of it isn't necessarily an exclusive feature of the center-right.


I don't know about those on the left who tolerate Trump, but I'm definitely aware and skeptical of white liberals, like in Oregon!

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/white-liberal-racism-why-progressives-are-unable-to-see-their-own-bigotry.html
https://www.vox.com/2017/1/18/14296126/white-segregated-suburb-neighborhood-cartoon
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/racist-history-portland/492035/


Check into the Bernie Sanders area of the political spectrum where you had people outright voting for Trump out of spite for Hillary Clinton or refusing to vote at all(or voting 3rd party). I am no fan of Sec. Clinton but that did not stop me from voting for her in Nov. 2016 because I'd be insane to vote for a raving racist lunatic or enable him by not voting or making a protest vote. The hardcore Bernie Bros...well that's a different story. It's easy to tolerate certain things when it doesn't personally affect you and you lack the empathy to see or care how it negatively impacts other people, which is certainly an issue among white liberals. There are plenty of people who behave like this on the left.

For example, take a look at the whole "progressive" #walkaway movement that is (with help from Russian trolls) working to undermine the Democrats right now, encouraging far left progressives/liberals to not support the Democrats come November.

How in god's name at this point in this country could ANY person of center-left leanings think about not supporting the only party that stands between the rule of law and Trump basically going full blown authoritarian rule? The so called progressives, and lets not just single out white liberals because I see some people of color and lgbt folks falling for this #walkaway garbage as well, who are actively pushing this or supporting this clearly are tolerant of Trump if they are willing to throw the country off of a cliff. At a time like this, moderates to progressives to even extreme far leftists should be saying uh, we've got to get the GOP out of office and gain a super majority to neuter Trump long enough for Mueller to finish his report which will undoubtedly recommend that the President be impeached or indicted for numerous crimes. Instead, you have people who lean left literally just saying nope I would rather this country burn under Trump than do the right thing.

People think that the far right and far left in the United States are total opposites but on both ends you'll find people who revel in ignorance, racism, and tolerance of racism all the same. In other words, complete **** ing tools.
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Post#1258 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:38 pm

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I applaud him for openly talking about mental illness. But that's about where my respect for him ends.

Kanye West has the thought process of a child before he or she develops critical thinking skills. His reasoning for supporting Trump is because he wants to be "different"...like an edgy teenager. Mental health issues are not an excuse for what he's doing.

What he's doing, with the platform that he has, is ignorant, dangerous and devoid of all thought. He's enabling something that can, and already has, gotten people who look like him subjected to harassment, abuse, and killed, but he doesn't see that because he's at a point in his life where he feels insulated by his wealth.

The fact that he couldn't even answer Kimmel's last question speaks volumes about how little he actually is thinking about any of this. Being contrarian just for the sake of doing so isn't a sign of intelligence, its the hall marks of a douche bag buffoon.

Now compare his behavior to Lebron's, who is actively creating change in his community and influencing others with his kind of status to do the same. Lebron is insulated from a lot of things by his wealth, but the core difference is that Lebron has empathy for others where Kanye has either been stripped of it over the years or never really had it at all.
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Post#1259 » by gigantes » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:47 am

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gigantes wrote:One thing I've been saddened by is a somewhat widespread, tired / disgusted reaction about "all the relentless Trump hate." I notice the people reacting that way seem be on the middle-to-left part of the spectrum and seem to take a pretty casual approach to following news and politics.

You mean middle-to-right? I don't know of any on the left who are tolerant of Trump.

No, I certainly didn't mean from the right. The right would be more of an automatic fangs-out situation. IMO they're all-around easier to peg, anyway.

The portion of the left I'm talking about are more like people who don't follow politics much and/or just kind of give lip-service to this stuff. I.e., they're casually left (or dare I say it, Millenials?) and don't like being dragged in to deeper waters like reality is now doing to them, in fact.

So it gets very annoying for them, and at a certain point they start blaming the messenger, essentially.

I mean... sure, the Left-Center-Right spectrum is all well and good, but it's also just a concept. It's always breaking down here, there and everywhere. Even people from close-knit communities can turn on each other with remarkable viciousness, although that goes beyond what I really meant just above.
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Post#1260 » by bud29 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:54 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
You'd be surprised. Racism and tolerance of it isn't necessarily an exclusive feature of the center-right.


I don't know about those on the left who tolerate Trump, but I'm definitely aware and skeptical of white liberals, like in Oregon!

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/white-liberal-racism-why-progressives-are-unable-to-see-their-own-bigotry.html
https://www.vox.com/2017/1/18/14296126/white-segregated-suburb-neighborhood-cartoon
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/racist-history-portland/492035/


Check into the Bernie Sanders area of the political spectrum where you had people outright voting for Trump out of spite for Hillary Clinton or refusing to vote at all(or voting 3rd party). I am no fan of Sec. Clinton but that did not stop me from voting for her in Nov. 2016 because I'd be insane to vote for a raving racist lunatic or enable him by not voting or making a protest vote. The hardcore Bernie Bros...well that's a different story. It's easy to tolerate certain things when it doesn't personally affect you and you lack the empathy to see or care how it negatively impacts other people, which is certainly an issue among white liberals. There are plenty of people who behave like this on the left.

At the women's march last year, someone was carrying a sign that said "If Hillary won, we'd be at brunch right now." I think that perfectly captures my issue with many white liberals. They see injustices that have plagued our country for generations and think that they are a result of the 2016 election - that things only started to get bad once Trump became president. Trump is clearly awful and has made pretty much everything worse, but these problems don't magically go away with a democrat in office - and that's why I feel like a lot of the "#resist" crowd is so useless. It seems like the *only* component of their ideology is opposition to Trump, paying little mind to the underlying problems that made President Trump possible in the first place.

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