Political Roundtable Part XXI

[GhostofChenier]

Civility is not something I remotely care about.

Quit with the GIFs GOC. It's not contributing

Iz civility contributing. Sometimez GIF is bezt response to rudeness!!

[dckingsfan]

Civility is not something I remotely care about.

Sure you do. You hate when others aren't treated with civility. You rant about it (a good thing).

What we all want is civil discussion moving us forward. What you hate about Trump is his lack of civility and how that moves us backward.

What you want (in the end) for all is the consideration and respect that civility brings.

Don't mix what I am saying up with civil disobedience (or lack thereof). You can say what you are going to say without dropping the f'bomb or being like GC. And I am not saying to lay down either if confronted.

But in the end - you do care about civility. Just that you aren't going to extend to others what they don't extend to you.

[gtn130]

Civility is not something I remotely care about.

Sure you do. You hate when others aren't treated with civility. You rant about it (a good thing).

What we all want is civil discussion moving us forward. What you hate about Trump is his lack of civility and how that moves us backward.

What you want (in the end) for all is the consideration and respect that civility brings.

Don't mix what I am saying up with civil disobedience (or lack thereof). You can say what you are going to say without dropping the f'bomb or being like GC. And I am not saying to lay down either if confronted.

But in the end - you do care about civility. Just that you aren't going to extend to others what they don't extend to you.

Not so sure about this. I care about Trump being racist because of the real world impact it has - normalizing racism, the impact on policy, the people he hires; all of that stuff has direct material effect on people's lives. Don't think I've ever complained about anyone being uncivil in this thread - the posters who actually annoy me are the ones like Induveca who are completely intellectually dishonest. SD20 annoys me because his posts are novel-length and bat**** crazy.

I don't really care at all about people being mean to each other on message boards or being blunt with their arguments in political discourse - in fact the one thing I really dislike about the current liberal ethos is the concept of 'safe spaces' and how fragile people are when their positions are questioned. Having a harsh and realistic discussion about your views is ultimately a healthy thing imo, and people who run from it should be criticized for it.

[stilldropin20]

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[stilldropin20]

Trump has not done one racist thing. not one. rational nationalism and protecting your borders is fine, normal, and perfectly acceptable. Every developed country in the protects its borders and has immigration policies. The fact that minorities make up a small portion of trumps base is strictly due to lies from the left. more and more working class and working poor minorities are seeing through it day by day and seeing their bottom line improved under trump.

[stilldropin20]

Civility is not something I remotely care about.

Sure you do. You hate when others aren't treated with civility. You rant about it (a good thing).

What we all want is civil discussion moving us forward. What you hate about Trump is his lack of civility and how that moves us backward.

What you want (in the end) for all is the consideration and respect that civility brings.

Don't mix what I am saying up with civil disobedience (or lack thereof). You can say what you are going to say without dropping the f'bomb or being like GC. And I am not saying to lay down either if confronted.

But in the end - you do care about civility. Just that you aren't going to extend to others what they don't extend to you.

this poster clearly does NOT care about civility. he only cares about being treated civil himself or others he identifies with being treated civil. he could care less if everyone else literally burns alive and has made that point over and over and over. While people like me tell people like him encouraging and productive things like get a job, wait your turn, participate in markets. he tells us all we just need to die off and go away.

which is abhorrent. So stop apologizing for his behavior just because no one else engages in your redundant political folly and small world politics. you and him ae only aligned in your anti-trump basis...and his is hate based....yours in only moderately hate based.

certainly not stat based:

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trump at 29% because every single other news agency has been running a 3 year smear campaign against him. the fact that fox is at #2 and is aligned with trump tells you what the american people believe and the american people as a whole are not stupid nor easily fooled over time. That time has passed. the issues have been vetted. the american people have spoken. Fox #1 in rating by a country mile and across the board. Fox #2 in most trusted.

[Wizardspride]

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[GhostofChenier]

Nypost conserv. Lol!

[stilldropin20]

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[stilldropin20]

i'd like to see who compiled this list and the criteria because as an avid follower of both CNN and Fox, the hill, WSJ, NYT, CNBC, WaPo and others I can sleep at night with the full knowledge and comfort that the CNN coverage in the USA is as far left as it gets.

Where Fox news often uses journalist from The Hill and WSJ to break stories(specifically hannity and the russian hoax busting). CNN is often using stories broke on buzzfeed and Axios and Daily KOS.<-- smear campaign propoganda.

So I'm not buying this chart at all.


Also, Fox owns the WSJ which is as high and as neutral as one can get on that list without being reuters who breaks nothing anymore.

Edited post!!:

http://www.kotcb.com/2018/07/sugar-toasted-puffs-of-wheat.html


looks like someone beat me to it!! great work!!

Have you ever seen the Media Bias Chart (v3.1) hosted at the All Generalizations are False web site curated by Vanessa Otero? It was created to help folks understand what kind of news they are consuming and let them know what's #FakeNews and what's real news and where it all fits in the larger mediasphere. The chart is what one would expect from a patent lawyer turned media analyst and it's formal Left/Right axis with a "fair" scale for news sources is predictable, by the book, Blue Pill conventional wisdom. However, looked at the right way it can be very instructive and so I have inverted and annotated Vanessa's chart in an effort to give "news consumers" a clearer picture of what, in fact, they're gobbling up in their day to day info grazing.

The first thing to point out about the chart is that it leaves off Facebook, GoogleNews, Twitter and many other social media news sources that are becoming the primary means of gathering information for many people. There is a deep bias in Facebook news and it's not Zuck's fault or the fault of rouge employees who tweak some algorithm but is the direct result of left-wing **** self-righteously letting everyone know exactly how they feel about life. It's not baked into the platform or the AI that guides it - It's baked into the brains of the people who use Facebook who see the world exactly the same way that Vanessa Otero sees it. Second (and this is related to the first) is the absence of soft news periodicals like women's magazines, fashion rags and trade publications the vast majority of which "skew liberal" as Otero defines it and "inform" their readers, subtly, what they should be thinking about and how they should think about it. Third, the grid itself is preposterous for anyone who thinks about must admit that the Skews Liberal column is broad - liberally so - while the Skews Conservative column is tightly constrained to the point where stepping over the line to Hyper-Partisan Conservatism is one wrong word or inappropriate analogy away. Liberal news sources are given much greater license to throw their wacky ideas against the wall and see what sticks without getting called on the carpet for their Hyper-Partisan editorializing. Fourth is the illusion conjured in the diagram that there is roughly an equal number of "Liberal" and "Conservative" news sources to choose from when, in fact, almost every right of center news organization (except Talk Radio) is placed on the grid while only a small percentage of the liberal news outlets are identified. Even with this sin of omission the liberal outlets outnumber the conservatives on this chart but were the full scope of this disparity to be accurately displayed the true magnitude of the news "problem" would be astounding. Fifth, the true measure of a news organization is it's overall influence on the downstream or fringe media outlets and so there really should be a quantitative/qualitative measure to the size of each news logo displayed on the chart. For example, The New York Times is represented as a small sliver of Neutral/Skews Left news but it's impact on ALL other news sources is profound and as the "paper of record" it sets the tone and chooses the stories that all the other lazy journalists cover for the day.

On that last point - point #5 - I have to draw attention to a glaring, and I must believe spiteful, error in the placement of The Drudge Report on this chart (very Hyper-Partisan Conservative and Unfair) which relegates this news portal (a kind of cyber-front page) to the low, disreputable right. Say what you will about Matt Drudge and his politics or the stew of stories he links too (many of them from left of center news outlets) but the fact is that as a news trend setter he's right up their with the NYTimes and YahooNews. Many "fair" and "neutral" journalists make the Drudge Report their first or second stop each morning when they cybersurf the web for what's hot or noteworthy in the world around us. Drudge doesn't even write news stories or opinion pieces - the web site has one page comprised of links to multiple news outlets and when one of them, say WaPo, does a hit piece on Drudge for linking to disreputable sources they always have to throw in an inconvenient truth:

It’s important to contextualize this. From 2014 to 2016, links to Infowars, RT and Sputnik were only a small part of the links on the site. There were far more links to The Post, for example — and to Breitbart.

By "far more links" WaPo is being coy because we're talking a 300:1 or 400:1 ratio depending on the day and while it might feel a little grimy to be sharing space on the same page with InfoWars it has to be said that WaPo gets the better end of the deal - Drudge claims to drive 37% of WaPo's web site visits.

All that being said, I still value the chart (especially with my annotations) because it shows, underlying the News Logos, a person (you) sitting down to eat a bowl of pabulum and accurately presents a visual representation of what's on the menu. The mind is already full of Corporate drivel pushed by CIA operatives and the UN News Service so the objective is to measure or critique the authoritative story against something - an alternative view of the establishment narrative. At this point the news consumer (you) are offered, broadly speaking, two choices - 1. pick up a fork and take a stab at some #MAGA news or 2. spoon a bunch of Marxist bull into your brain. What's it going to be - InfoWars or Occupy Democrats? There is no neutral unfair interpretations of the news full of nonsense and damaging to public discourse (unless you count the Keeper of the Clown Bell blog as such a news source) and that leaves a gaping hole for the news consumer to fill. Somethings got to go into the bowl - make it Sugar Smacks.

[pancakes3]

i'd like to see who compiled this list and the criteria because as an avid follower of both CNN and Fox, the hill, WSJ, NYT, CNBC, WaPo and others I can sleep at night with the full knowledge and comfort that the CNN coverage in the USA is as far left as it gets.

Where Fox news often uses journalist from The Hill and WSJ to break stories(specifically hannity and the russian hoax busting). CNN is often using stories broke on buzzfeed and Axios and Daily KOS.<-- smear campaign propoganda.

So I'm not buying this chart at all.


Also, Fox owns the WSJ which is as high and as neutral as one can get on that list without being reuters who breaks nothing anymore.

be my guest: http://www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com/the-chart-version-3-0-what-exactly-are-we-reading/

edit to add: also, hannity is not news. he's an "opinion" show - something that he not only admits but hides behind when people question his journalistic integrity. actual fox news is delivered by the likes of shepard smith and chris wallace, both of whom have ben quite vocal of the state of the opinion shows on their own network. so if you're avidly following hannity, you should at least know that you're not following a news source but rather a man who is hitching his wagon to POTUS in exchange for ratings.

[stilldropin20]

i'd like to see who compiled this list and the criteria because as an avid follower of both CNN and Fox, the hill, WSJ, NYT, CNBC, WaPo and others I can sleep at night with the full knowledge and comfort that the CNN coverage in the USA is as far left as it gets.

Where Fox news often uses journalist from The Hill and WSJ to break stories(specifically hannity and the russian hoax busting). CNN is often using stories broke on buzzfeed and Axios and Daily KOS.<-- smear campaign propoganda.

So I'm not buying this chart at all.


Also, Fox owns the WSJ which is as high and as neutral as one can get on that list without being reuters who breaks nothing anymore.

be my guest: http://www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com/the-chart-version-3-0-what-exactly-are-we-reading/

edit to add: also, hannity is not news. he's an "opinion" show - something that he not only admits but hides behind when people question his journalistic integrity. actual fox news is delivered by the likes of shepard smith and chris wallace, both of whom have ben quite vocal of the state of the opinion shows on their own network. so if you're avidly following hannity, you should at least know that you're not following a news source but rather a man who is hitching his wagon to POTUS in exchange for ratings.

Thanks for link. I had already looked and found it as well as some research on those that composed the original chart. ^^^^ see above. The link in the artical above is quite fair as to 1. Deep state "news." 2. MAGA "news." 3. Marxist "news." 4. New world order "news". 5 and the complete garbage "news."

As for shep smith is a never trumper. he's extremely biased against trump.<--he's a bush/rubio/kasich republican. If he is even a republican. but i watch him too as well as wallace. And thats what makes Fox a better network than CNN. CNN cant even bring themselves to provide 1 solid hour per week of MAGA "news." Which makes them the most biased "watched" network. the others that are balanced besides Fox have veiwership so low that they dont matter.

but yeah, Unfortunately, thats all i watch. news all day long. both CNN and Fox. even some al jazeera and BBC. i have Wapo and NYT delivered to my door every sunday and I follow all the links and clicks on here and twitter. i actually do read what you guys link if its a new idea or some kind of new "news" piece.

In terms of hannity he is "news" as much as don lemmon is "news." between both of their biases, you can make informed decisions somewhere in the middle. Right now hannity has the inside track to the president.<--and i understand the two of them are in lock step to put out the presidents version of the facts. Don lemmon, and cooper and cuomo on the other hand is (now) on the outside looking in. guessing. and often being fed info from deep state, and DNC officials that have their own agenda. I fully see and understand when information is being used to attempt to persuade me as opposed to inform me and I understand that there is almost no difference between the two. Over reporting and lack of reporting ("of facts") are equal forms of bias as persuasion pieces.

Again, i watch everything. I read everything. despite poplular opinion that I'm a bat shirt crazy biased hack, I actually am quite informed. Quite reasonable. And very sharp. I'm a doctor for 2 decades. And a businessman for 3 decades. Former US Navy intelligence officer. I wouldn't post here or anywhere else unless i was extremely informed.

[barelyawake]

Civility is not something I remotely care about.

Sure you do. You hate when others aren't treated with civility. You rant about it (a good thing).

What we all want is civil discussion moving us forward. What you hate about Trump is his lack of civility and how that moves us backward.

What you want (in the end) for all is the consideration and respect that civility brings.

Don't mix what I am saying up with civil disobedience (or lack thereof). You can say what you are going to say without dropping the f'bomb or being like GC. And I am not saying to lay down either if confronted.

But in the end - you do care about civility. Just that you aren't going to extend to others what they don't extend to you.

this poster clearly does NOT care about civility. he only cares about being treated civil himself or others he identifies with being treated civil. he could care less if everyone else literally burns alive and has made that point over and over and over. While people like me tell people like him encouraging and productive things like get a job, wait your turn, participate in markets. he tells us all we just need to die off and go away.

which is abhorrent. So stop apologizing for his behavior just because no one else engages in your redundant political folly and small world politics. you and him ae only aligned in your anti-trump basis...and his is hate based....yours in only moderately hate based.

certainly not stat based:

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trump at 29% because every single other news agency has been running a 3 year smear campaign against him. the fact that fox is at #2 and is aligned with trump tells you what the american people believe and the american people as a whole are not stupid nor easily fooled over time. That time has passed. the issues have been vetted. the american people have spoken. Fox #1 in rating by a country mile and across the board. Fox #2 in most trusted.

So, stilldroppin is civil? Lol. Fox News is unbiased? Lol. Republican solutions aren’t blatantly for killing off the poor? Anti-national health care. Privatized prisons. Anti-minimum wage. Anti-food stamps. All of those things are advocating killing off the poor, while somehow pretending to be Christian.

But then, these devils are convinced that Christ advocates guns. Imagine the mental twisting that takes to somehow believe you are like Christ, but are against helping the sick and for guns in schools. Just like Christ would have done. Fake Christians. Every last one of them. Pretending they believe in god, but so fearful of going to heaven they need convince themselves it’s ok to break god’s greatest commandment to protect themselves... from heaven. Fake Christians. Hypocrites. Too pampered and indoctrinated in their nonsense to realize how illogical it is. Too bathed in their own bull and privledge to think perhaps people actually try hard and fail, and deserve a break.

I’m successful. I’ve owned businesses, and currently own two. But, I have a pre-existing condition. If Trump gets his way in the courts, I will die because I won’t be able to afford the type of healthcare I need without insurance (and I won’t be able to get any insurance). So, you’ll have to forgive me if I give a polite f’ off to those attempting to say I haven’t worked hard enough in this country (16hr days minimum most of my life between several businesses) to have national healthcare which EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS. You can go to hell with that nonsense. And if you are right, and god exists, he or she isn’t going to reward you for your twisting of their beliefs.

That said, these arguments are nonsense. The human brain is wired to re-enforce it’s own beliefs despite evidence to the contrary. These yelling sessions are masturbation. And we have become a childish and mean people. That’s how we got Fox and Trump. And I don’t see it getting better. It’ll get more childish and more mean. And people will keep redefining Christianity to mean walking in back stage on teen beauty pageants to catch a glimpse, grabbing interns pussies because they have no power, constantly lying literally every time you speak, and sucking up to dictators who merciously kill any opposition. Again, stuff very good Christians do.

[stilldropin20]

Sure you do. You hate when others aren't treated with civility. You rant about it (a good thing).

What we all want is civil discussion moving us forward. What you hate about Trump is his lack of civility and how that moves us backward.

What you want (in the end) for all is the consideration and respect that civility brings.

Don't mix what I am saying up with civil disobedience (or lack thereof). You can say what you are going to say without dropping the f'bomb or being like GC. And I am not saying to lay down either if confronted.

But in the end - you do care about civility. Just that you aren't going to extend to others what they don't extend to you.

this poster clearly does NOT care about civility. he only cares about being treated civil himself or others he identifies with being treated civil. he could care less if everyone else literally burns alive and has made that point over and over and over. While people like me tell people like him encouraging and productive things like get a job, wait your turn, participate in markets. he tells us all we just need to die off and go away.

which is abhorrent. So stop apologizing for his behavior just because no one else engages in your redundant political folly and small world politics. you and him ae only aligned in your anti-trump basis...and his is hate based....yours in only moderately hate based.

certainly not stat based:

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trump at 29% because every single other news agency has been running a 3 year smear campaign against him. the fact that fox is at #2 and is aligned with trump tells you what the american people believe and the american people as a whole are not stupid nor easily fooled over time. That time has passed. the issues have been vetted. the american people have spoken. Fox #1 in rating by a country mile and across the board. Fox #2 in most trusted.

So, stilldroppin is civil? Lol. Fox News is unbiased? Lol. Republican solutions aren’t blatantly for killing off the poor? Anti-national health care. Privatized prisons. Anti-minimum wage. Anti-food stamps. All of those things are advocating killing off the poor, while somehow pretending to be Christian.

But then, these devils are convinced that Christ advocates guns. Imagine the mental twisting that takes to somehow believe you are like Christ, but are against helping the sick and for guns in schools. Just like Christ would have done. Fake Christians. Every last one of them. Pretending they believe in god, but so fearful of going to heaven they need convince themselves it’s ok to break god’s greatest commandment to protect themselves... from heaven. Fake Christians. Hypocrites. Too pampered and indoctrinated in their nonsense to realize how illogical it is. Too bathed in their own bull and privledge to think perhaps people actually try hard and fail, and deserve a break.

I’m successful. I’ve owned businesses, and currently own two. But, I have a pre-existing condition. If Trump gets his way in the courts, I will die because I won’t be able to afford the type of healthcare I need without insurance (and I won’t be able to get any insurance). So, you’ll have to forgive me if I give a polite f’ off to those attempting to say I haven’t worked hard enough in this country (16hr days minimum most of my life between several businesses) to have national healthcare which EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS. You can go to hell with that nonsense. And if you are right, and god exists, he or she isn’t going to reward you for your twisting of their beliefs.

That said, these arguments are nonsense. The human brain is wired to re-enforce it’s own beliefs despite evidence to the contrary. These yelling sessions are masturbation. And we have become a childish and mean people. That’s how we got Fox and Trump. And I don’t see it getting better. It’ll get more childish and more mean. And people will keep redefining Christianity to mean walking in back stage on teen beauty pageants to catch a glimpse, grabbing interns pussies because they have no power, constantly lying literally every time you speak, and sucking up to dictators who merciously kill any opposition. Again, stuff very good Christians do.

as an old 'friend" on this board, i am truly sorry to hear about your pre-existing condition. I hope you can get the medical attention you need to keep you healthy as long as humanly possible. I mean that.

As a doctor and surgeon let me take the time to remind every person reading that we all have a pre-existing condition to eventually die. We are all going to die. Some of us sadly die too soon in childhood to rare diseases and some of us sadly die too late in our 90's and live in terrible conditions of alzhiemers, dimentia, cancer and other diseases for as long as 10-15 even 20-30 years not knowing who we are anymore or in other horrific conditions of "life."

There are other horrific conditions of life around the globe that many humans suffer from. Squalor. Extreme poverty and even slavery. Still existent today in some parts.

but let's stick to pre-existing health conditions that barely brought up: Since I'm a practicing doctor of over 2 decades as well as a compassionate human being just like the rest of us here maybe I'm as much of an expert on this thing called pre-existing conditions and costs of medical care as anyone on the planet? I just might be, ya know.

And my take aint for everyone. I get that. But again...we are all born to die. We are all going to die. Its just a matter of when and how. "medicine" was invented to help the body heal itself. Never ever forget that. And if you dont know that then learn it now. ONly the body can heal itself. Doctors, surgeons like myself, prescribe medications and perform procedures strictly to help the body heal itself. And sometimes the stuff we do is elective or cosmetic or performed or prescribed to improve the quality of life while dealing with either abnormalities, injuries, or diseases.

So in this thing called "life," we are all born to die eventually with the pre-existing condition of eventual death programmed into our cells...medicine and our medical procedures only exist to prolong the inevitable.

With that said, Barely, and getting back to your point of being able to "afford medical insurance to attend to your specific pre-existing condition," it sounds like your personal gripe MAY NOT necessarily be about medical insurance covering the costs of a pre-existing condition but perhaps your gripe is about THE COSTS OF THE PROCEDURE themselves. Maybe you need to at things differently? Maybe the costs themselves are the problem? Maybe the pre-existing condition is little different than anyone else pre-existing condition...for example I was born with multiple spinal disorders...mainly that my lumbar vertebrae didn't form hard bone as a child and I can have lots of back problems if I lay around too mucha nd my core gets weak. I refuse any kind of meds or surgery. And if i ever get cancer? I refuse to do chemo/radio because I personally want to part of that. If my pre-existing conditions tell me its time to "check out" I'm ready to go. I'm not going to fight my pre-existing condition of certain death with tons of doctor visits. I'm going to go for a run at the beach instead. Or a swim. Or out for drinks with friends. Simply put I refuse to let the media persuade me into a lifestyle of medications and procedures to pro-long the inevitable. And Big Pharma via the media and advertisers have been hard at work on the american public to instill the fear of death into the every day american.

^^^and I'm a doctor. A surgeon. And that's my point of view. Most doctors see it my way for their own personal lives. They really do. and it should tell the american people something. But legislatively, we have been forced to "inform" the public of all of their options, and meds, and if we tell our patients anything like i just pointed out above then those patients can sue me...and win. So no doctor of yours will ever say this to you. But on amessage board, i'm free to speak freely.

Again, I wish you well. and truly hope you get the help you want for you. take all the meds you want and go through all of the procedures you want. I'm just saying that Big Pharma and Big Medicine is in on it with the media to suggest a bunch of meds and procedures that do NOT necessarily make your quality of life any better than a walk in the park or a swim in the ocean or an amazing meal with your family or hot sex with a lover. There are simple things we got down. and proven meds that have been around a long time.<--all of which a mcdonalds employee can afford out of pocket.

So different people can reasonable see this issue very differently. What works for you might not work for me and vice versa. For either of us to suggest the other is evil or even mean spirited does NOT further the conversation. Its a difficult issue. But we must have an intelligent conversation about it because your real issue is the cost drivers of modern medicine NOT the insurance that does or doesn't cover it...and whether the procedure actually helps is also up for intelligent debate.

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Wait, SD20 is also a surgeon? Wow! Not bad!

[barelyawake]

Still, I respect the restraint and compassion of your last post, but what a bunch of goobledygook. You know quite well the life expectancy, wellness rates, outcomes etc of American medicine versus the world. We suck for the amount we pay, and what we get. It’s amazing how you have to try to say, as a medical professional, medicine ain’t that great to justify your political beliefs and somehow cover you from blame. I love how the hypocratic oath about do no harm doesn’t mention harm to the wallet, or the stress level, or merely jumping off a cliff to save yourself the pain and your family the expense. Everyone wants to believe they are a good person, and many have to do tremendous contortions to justify it.

Every other country has decided that having a private insurance company who takes a cut from health care (and spends most of their money on advertising) is an immoral thing. What benefit does private insurance provide? Why are medicines so expensive? Why are doctors paid so much? Do you honestly believe that doctors work 5000 times harder than a ditch digger working two jobs?

Only those ignorant of other countries, and we as Americans have loads of those, believe that we need to defend our current health care system.

I appreciate the sympathy, Still. But, stop the nonsense. We need national health care like the rest of the world. People have been going bankrupt and dying enough. You’ve made enough money. Stop protecting an immoral system.

[Wizardspride]

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[montestewart]

Have you ever seen the Media Bias Chart (v3.1) hosted at the All Generalizations are False web site curated by Vanessa Otero? It was created to help folks understand what kind of news they are consuming and let them know what's #FakeNews and what's real news and where it all fits in the larger mediasphere. The chart is what one would expect from a patent lawyer turned media analyst and it's formal Left/Right axis with a "fair" scale for news sources is predictable, by the book, Blue Pill conventional wisdom. However, looked at the right way it can be very instructive and so I have inverted and annotated Vanessa's chart in an effort to give "news consumers" a clearer picture of what, in fact, they're gobbling up in their day to day info grazing.

"predictable" is usually dismissively offered after not predicting something

"what one would expect from a patent lawyer turned media analyst" may as well say "what one would expect from an elephant eating ice cream." Hogwash coated antifundity

His revision of the chart is so predictably what one would expect that there is no reason to read it

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Fake news is like MVP. Once the chant get rolling, you gotta believe