All prime 1996 Bulls or the 2019 Warriors (not in primes, just their 2019 versions)?

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Cavaliers Version of Ron Harper was a super athlete. Prime James Edwards is a very good low post scorer. Prime John Salley is a very good player.

76er Iguodala was more athletic. Peak 2015-2016 Regular season Curry was amazing but the OP said prime not peak.

The Warriors 3 point shooting and team passing is such a weapon. I think I take the Wartiors shooting and passing over the Bul athleticism.

Oh I forgot about them. The Warriors would not be prime but rather their 2019 versions. I think Edwards put them over the top.

2019 Warriors are not guaranteed to be as good as 2018 Warriors. So the only Warrior stipulated to be playing up to his 2018 levels is Cousins. Livingston and Iguodala show signs of age in the regular season last year but the pulled it together for the playoffs but they might not be good this year. With the 2019 Warriors being I bit unpredictable I will change my vote to the Bulls.

I also failed to considder playing by 1996 rules. It might take 2 years to adjust to the rules. There was more handchecking in the 2018 playoffs than in the 2017 playoffs but still getting used to full blown hand checking would be an adjustment.

[picko]

They could play with 1996 rules or 1986 rules or 1966 rules. It won't make a difference unless the Warriors are forced to play with earlier tactics. Modern offensive and defensive strategies are light-years ahead of 1996. Not only do the Warriors have a talent advantage but they'd basically be playing chess while the Bulls are forced to play checkers. It'd be uncompetitive.

[fanofthegreats]

Warriors route them

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

They could play with 1996 rules or 1986 rules or 1966 rules. It won't make a difference unless the Warriors are forced to play with earlier tactics. Modern offensive and defensive strategies are light-years ahead of 1996. Not only do the Warriors have a talent advantage but they'd basically be playing chess while the Bulls are forced to play checkers. It'd be uncompetitive.

Perhaps you are trolling.

1990s and 1980s NBA played and illegal zonish man to man. The current NBA plays a very similar to 1980s and 1990s legal zonish man to man. The main differences are modern adaptions to defend people that are capable of shooting 3s while coming off picks and screens

Since the Bulls have nobody capable of hitting 3s while coming off a screen or a pick the Warriors should use earlier tactics. Kerr was an all time great shooter of wide open 3s but he did not shoot contested 3s.

The idea that 1990s players were forced to defend non-shooters away from the basket because of the illegal defense rule is a false idea. That happened occasionally when the coach called a play designed to force the refs to enforce the illegal defense rule.

Previous NBA legally hand checked while the NBA during the 2018 playoffs was illegally hand checking.

The Warriors have 3 all time great shooters. The all prime Bulls would have the most athletic team ever assembled.

Neither team will blow away the other team

[migya]

A proper comparison would be 1996 Bulls v either 2018 Warriors or literal 2019 Warriors who will have Cousins inured for most of the season.

1996 Bulls v 2018 Warriors is a good one, especially with 1996 rules because illegal defense makes it interesting. Bulls never saw anything like Curry's shooting. All depends how well Pippen could defend Durant, and Jordan and Harper defending through screens Curry and Klay. Think Draymond offensively would be huge because Rodman doesn't score and isn't a perimeter defender, so pulling him out from close to the basket would also limit his rebounding.


Warriors in 6. They are too skilled on both ends and shoot too good.

[CodeBreaker]

2019 Warriors are all prime aswell?

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The 2011 Bulls would beat the 2019 Warriors.

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He said it like he meant 2011 Bulls *all in primes", imho. This means we get best possible versions of: Rose, Korver, Butler, Deng, Noah, Boozer (Utah version), Thomas (Knicks), Taj Gibson, Asik and Scal I love that frontcourt.

[Jiminy Glick]

2019 Warriors are all prime aswell?

No, sorry I didn't state that well. I worded it weird.

[Jiminy Glick]

WARRIORS ARE NOT ALL IN THEIR PRIMES THEY ARE JUST THE 2019 WARRIORS.

[magicman1978]

I think people are not ready the OP correctly if they don't think the Bulls would be competitive.

[eminence]

I don't think all prime is a huge upgrade to the '96 Bulls. Rodman/Harper/Edwards/Salley are the only ones that jump out taking pretty big leaps. Bulls have the better deep bench in this hypothetical, but in the top 7-8 that'd be the rotation come playoff time I'd still favor GS. Do these sound about right?

Curry/Livingston
Klay
KD/Iggy
Dray
Cousins/Looney

vs

Harper/Kerr
MJ
Pippen/Kukoc
Rodman
Edwards/Salley

[Jiminy Glick]

I don't think all prime is a huge upgrade to the '96 Bulls. Rodman/Harper/Edwards/Salley are the only ones that jump out taking pretty big leaps. Bulls have the better deep bench in this hypothetical, but in the top 7-8 that'd be the rotation come playoff time I'd still favor GS. Do these sound about right?

Curry/Livingston
Klay
KD/Iggy
Dray
Cousins/Looney

vs

Harper/Kerr
MJ
Pippen/Kukoc
Rodman
Edwards/Salley

You have to have McCaw and Bell in there. They will surely be a lot better this upcoming year. They improve the Warriors defense a lot.

[eminence]

I don't think all prime is a huge upgrade to the '96 Bulls. Rodman/Harper/Edwards/Salley are the only ones that jump out taking pretty big leaps. Bulls have the better deep bench in this hypothetical, but in the top 7-8 that'd be the rotation come playoff time I'd still favor GS. Do these sound about right?

Curry/Livingston
Klay
KD/Iggy
Dray
Cousins/Looney

vs

Harper/Kerr
MJ
Pippen/Kukoc
Rodman
Edwards/Salley

You have to have McCaw and Bell in there. They will surely be a lot better this upcoming year. They improve the Warriors defense a lot.

Ehh, you could certainly put them in there over Livingston/Looney, but it's a close on either way and changing out 7th/8th men for slightly better versions doesn't do much when it comes to a teams overall quality.

[Jiminy Glick]

I don't think all prime is a huge upgrade to the '96 Bulls. Rodman/Harper/Edwards/Salley are the only ones that jump out taking pretty big leaps. Bulls have the better deep bench in this hypothetical, but in the top 7-8 that'd be the rotation come playoff time I'd still favor GS. Do these sound about right?

Curry/Livingston
Klay
KD/Iggy
Dray
Cousins/Looney

vs

Harper/Kerr
MJ
Pippen/Kukoc
Rodman
Edwards/Salley

You have to have McCaw and Bell in there. They will surely be a lot better this upcoming year. They improve the Warriors defense a lot.

Ehh, you could certainly put them in there over Livingston/Looney, but it's a close on either way and changing out 7th/8th men for slightly better versions doesn't do much when it comes to a teams overall quality.

Why not play all of them?

[eminence]

You have to have McCaw and Bell in there. They will surely be a lot better this upcoming year. They improve the Warriors defense a lot.

Ehh, you could certainly put them in there over Livingston/Looney, but it's a close on either way and changing out 7th/8th men for slightly better versions doesn't do much when it comes to a teams overall quality.

Why not play all of them?

Because they're not nearly as good as Curry/Cousins/etc and that's who you'd be taking minutes from?

[Jiminy Glick]

Ehh, you could certainly put them in there over Livingston/Looney, but it's a close on either way and changing out 7th/8th men for slightly better versions doesn't do much when it comes to a teams overall quality.

Why not play all of them?

Because they're not nearly as good as Curry/Cousins/etc and that's who you'd be taking minutes from?

Well do you want them well rested? If so 38 minues is good. Or you could play them 40 or above. But it can be good to give players good rest. I would probably play Jordan 40 minutes per game.

[eminence]

Why not play all of them?

Because they're not nearly as good as Curry/Cousins/etc and that's who you'd be taking minutes from?

Well do you want them well rested? If so 38 minues is good. Or you could play them 40 or above. But it can be good to give players good rest. I would probably play Jordan 40 minutes per game.

The 5 starters at ~38 minutes sounds about right (Curry/Dray/KD/Klay all had 37-39 in the playoffs last season), leaving ~50 minutes a night, easily absorbed by 20 for Iggy, 15 for bench guard #1, 15 for bench big #1. The additional depth is nice for injury, but you don't need them to keep the stars rested.

[likemycurryhot]

The Bulls lack of 3-point shooting would be a huge handicap against most good modern teams, let alone the greatest offensive team of this era or maybe of all time. That aside, if we are positing a fully healthy Boogie, that’s just unfair. Against any team. Ever.

[dhsilv2]

Because they're not nearly as good as Curry/Cousins/etc and that's who you'd be taking minutes from?

Well do you want them well rested? If so 38 minues is good. Or you could play them 40 or above. But it can be good to give players good rest. I would probably play Jordan 40 minutes per game.

The 5 starters at ~38 minutes sounds about right (Curry/Dray/KD/Klay all had 37-39 in the playoffs last season), leaving ~50 minutes a night, easily absorbed by 20 for Iggy, 15 for bench guard #1, 15 for bench big #1. The additional depth is nice for injury, but you don't need them to keep the stars rested.

Cousins isn't playing 38 a game in the playoffs. Too foul prone to expect a consistent number over 32-35. Minor difference but every couple minutes does count. Also not sure Iggy is a 20 minute a game guy next year. We'll see.

[Jiminy Glick]

Well do you want them well rested? If so 38 minues is good. Or you could play them 40 or above. But it can be good to give players good rest. I would probably play Jordan 40 minutes per game.

The 5 starters at ~38 minutes sounds about right (Curry/Dray/KD/Klay all had 37-39 in the playoffs last season), leaving ~50 minutes a night, easily absorbed by 20 for Iggy, 15 for bench guard #1, 15 for bench big #1. The additional depth is nice for injury, but you don't need them to keep the stars rested.

Cousins isn't playing 38 a game in the playoffs. Too foul prone to expect a consistent number over 32-35. Minor difference but every couple minutes does count. Also not sure Iggy is a 20 minute a game guy next year. We'll see.

Exactly, and last year were the highest minutes of his career and he got injured. So he might have been overworked last year.