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Post#641 » by Revived » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:47 am

Negrodamus wrote:Zhaire was a good college defender, but I believe he’d get exposed by any guard with elite speed or forward that outsizes him at this stage of his career. I feel like he’d be good against Marcus Smart. Add to the fact that he’ll miss most of the season, this missing the nuances of playing in the NBA, and I feel like he’s unplayable in the playoffs. He’s a pretty massive project still, imo.

Marcus Smart isn't some kind of imposing offensive threat that requires a special player to guard.
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Post#642 » by Ericb5 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:58 am

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Kobblehead wrote:I suspect part of the reason we drafted Smith was because he could function as a star G stopper in the playoffs right away.

If Zhaire has a normal timetable for recovery, I think they'll still use him this year as a specialist in the postseason.


Totally agree his ability to guard quicker guards and wings played a huge factor into why we drafted him.

If healthy, he'll be on Kyrie/Rozier duty come the playoffs.

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Is he better prepared for that role than Justin Anderson was last year? As a rookie I’m not so sure.


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Post#643 » by Sixerscan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:13 am

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ankle420breaker wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I suspect part of the reason we drafted Smith was because he could function as a star G stopper in the playoffs right away.

If Zhaire has a normal timetable for recovery, I think they'll still use him this year as a specialist in the postseason.


Totally agree his ability to guard quicker guards and wings played a huge factor into why we drafted him.

If healthy, he'll be on Kyrie/Rozier duty come the playoffs.

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Is he better prepared for that role than Justin Anderson was last year? As a rookie I’m not so sure.


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I thought he showed better defensive awareness in summer league than Anderson ever did. Anderson would make athletic plays but would get lost a lot, pretty low steal rate ect.

Granted he was hurt a lot of the year but I think people fell in love more with the idea of Anderson than the reality.
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Post#644 » by Sixerscan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:14 am

Barring some sort of setback Zhaire will have 3-4 months to break into the rotation for the playoffs. Not a lot by any means but I don't think it's out of the question.
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Post#645 » by XDevilBoiX » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:39 am

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Post#646 » by Negrodamus » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:18 am

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Negrodamus wrote:Zhaire was a good college defender, but I believe he’d get exposed by any guard with elite speed or forward that outsizes him at this stage of his career. I feel like he’d be good against Marcus Smart. Add to the fact that he’ll miss most of the season, this missing the nuances of playing in the NBA, and I feel like he’s unplayable in the playoffs. He’s a pretty massive project still, imo.

Marcus Smart isn't some kind of imposing offensive threat that requires a special player to guard.


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Post#647 » by 76thBearCub » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:38 am

I never felt like the whole 1A and 1B thing was reality. I think they placed almost equal or more value on that Miami pick.
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Post#648 » by Chris76 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:51 am

Ericb5 wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I suspect part of the reason we drafted Smith was because he could function as a star G stopper in the playoffs right away.

If Zhaire has a normal timetable for recovery, I think they'll still use him this year as a specialist in the postseason.


Totally agree his ability to guard quicker guards and wings played a huge factor into why we drafted him.

If healthy, he'll be on Kyrie/Rozier duty come the playoffs.

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Is he better prepared for that role than Justin Anderson was last year? As a rookie I’m not so sure.


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JA was improving on his 3pt shooting, if not for a few nagging injuries that held him back. He defended D Wade very well in the playoffs. Hope he does well in Atlanta.

Zhaire struggled at creating his own shot, mainly forcing into double teams and shot blockers. Things he should learn to avoid with more experience.

However, Zhaire showed a natural ability to find open spaces for lobs, rebounds, and steals. An off ball player that can hit open 3s and provide above average team defense. Also, he seems to be a good passer, too.

The trade looks worse now that Zhaire got injured, but Zhaire definitely could be a very good prospect, plus the unprotected pick seems equal or more potential value than another very good prospect, Mikal.
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Post#649 » by Revived » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:40 am

I think Zhaire Smith’s floor and worst case scenario is Dante Exum and that’s still pretty good. Exum just got paid $11M/yr salary from one of the smartest front offices in basketball for his talents.

Some are writing off Zhaire too quick imo.
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Post#650 » by Negrodamus » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:56 pm

Revived wrote:I think Zhaire Smith’s floor and worst case scenario is Dante Exum and that’s still pretty good. Exum just got paid $11M/yr salary from one of the smartest front offices in basketball for his talents.

Some are writing off Zhaire too quick imo.


Dante Exum was a point guard coming into the league that had a bad run of injuries. I don’t think Zhaire has that primary ballhandling in his wheelhouse.
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Post#651 » by gdog2004 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:26 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:Zhaire was a good college defender, but I believe he’d get exposed by any guard with elite speed or forward that outsizes him at this stage of his career. I feel like he’d be good against Marcus Smart. Add to the fact that he’ll miss most of the season, this missing the nuances of playing in the NBA, and I feel like he’s unplayable in the playoffs. He’s a pretty massive project still, imo.

Marcus Smart isn't some kind of imposing offensive threat that requires a special player to guard.

Perhaps your forgetting how Marcus Smart in at LEAST 2 of the games destroyed the Sixers offensively. Guys on this board before the series were just talking about how you don't have to guard him, well we all see how that worked out.
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Post#652 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:40 pm

Players breaking shooting convention and actually making (open) shots that they hadn’t been making all season and then returning to missing those same shots the following series is the definition of ‘fluky’.

He had a fluky shooting series. That being said, obviously having a player that can match up more physically to him is beneficial than not, but outlier games here and there don’t change who a player is.
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Post#653 » by 76ciology » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:00 am

Problem with Zhaire Smith is he has mid to late shot release, common symptom of athletic wings. The best shooters have early shot release. You also get more consistency with early shot release because of the transfer of energy from your legs.

He may have trouble getting his shot off with a slow release and being defended by guys longer than him. But then maybe he can just rise over his defenders.
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Post#654 » by 76ciology » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:39 am

So which draft would the HS class be eligible?
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Post#655 » by rzzzzz » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:19 pm

76ciology wrote:Problem with Zhaire Smith is he has mid to late shot release, common symptom of athletic wings. The best shooters have early shot release. You also get more consistency with early shot release because of the transfer of energy from your legs.


didn't Hanlen work with Biid, while the big guy was recuperating from his foot surgery? i was kind of surprised the same thing didn't happen with Ben last year, but i don't see why Zhaire can't work on his mechanics, especially from the free throw line, as the old shot doctor McGee always emphasized.
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Post#656 » by ivysixer2000 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:19 pm

I wonder who will play first, Zhaire or MPJ....

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Post#657 » by 76ciology » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:50 pm

76ciology wrote:So which draft would the HS class be eligible?

We missed it right with the Heat pick right?
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Post#658 » by ivysixer2000 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:22 pm

76ciology wrote:
76ciology wrote:So which draft would the HS class be eligible?

We missed it right with the Heat pick right?


I don't think its written in stone yet, but yeah basically they are saying as of now that it is in 2022 instead of 2021.
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Post#659 » by 76ciology » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:02 pm

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76ciology wrote:So which draft would the HS class be eligible?

We missed it right with the Heat pick right?


I don't think its written in stone yet, but yeah basically they are saying as of now that it is in 2022 instead of 2021.


So its a blunder given we were after the HS draft right?
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Post#660 » by ivysixer2000 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:35 pm

76ciology wrote:
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76ciology wrote:We missed it right with the Heat pick right?


I don't think its written in stone yet, but yeah basically they are saying as of now that it is in 2022 instead of 2021.


So its a blunder given we were after the HS draft right?


We don't even know if that made a difference in how the Sixer's FO viewed that pick, but if that is the main reason for them to want and trade for that pick then it would be a blunder on our part.

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