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24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy?

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24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#1 » by TankWilson » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:53 pm

Who would you take that prime jermichael who put up 800 yds with 8 td's or the slightly past his prime but still very viable Jimmy graham? Also do you thin Jimmy will eclipse those numbers this year?
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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#2 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:00 pm

Are we talking about the context of what we thought Jermichael was at the time?

If I'm in the frame of mind that Jermichael is still able to explode, give me 2011 Jermichael.

If we have a hindsight view on Jermiachel, I guess I'd maybe still take him but it would be close.

I don't think Graham will eclipse 800 yards this year. He'll be a nice redzone target but he may have a few dud games that keeps him under 800 yards.
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Post#3 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:01 pm

In 2011 Finley had 11 drops in 92 targets, an extremely high 12%. Graham had 4 drops last year in 95 targets.
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Post#4 » by Mags FTW » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:56 pm

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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#5 » by RRyder823 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:28 am

MickeyDavis wrote:In 2011 Finley had 11 drops in 92 targets, an extremely high 12%. Graham had 4 drops last year in 95 targets.
Where u getting those stats? I got 7 drops for Graham last year and that he lead all TEs in drops

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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#6 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:35 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:In 2011 Finley had 11 drops in 92 targets, an extremely high 12%. Graham had 4 drops last year in 95 targets.
Where u getting those stats? I got 7 drops for Graham last year and that he lead all TEs in drops

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You're right. The 4 drops were in 2016. But Finley always had butterfingers.
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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#7 » by humanrefutation » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:04 pm

I'm not quite sure how you can answer this question when you've only seen Jimmy play with Rodgers for one possession of football.
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Post#8 » by GBPackers47 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:31 pm

humanrefutation wrote:I'm not quite sure how you can answer this question when you've only seen Jimmy play with Rodgers for one possession of football.


I mean....you have been on this board before right?
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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#9 » by humanrefutation » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:56 am

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humanrefutation wrote:I'm not quite sure how you can answer this question when you've only seen Jimmy play with Rodgers for one possession of football.


I mean....you have been on this board before right?

LOL, true. But I mean I can't honestly answer this until I see Graham this year. If I assume that we're getting 2017 Graham, a player who was mostly quiet outside of the Red Zone and dropped a ton of passes? I'll take Jermichael because of his big play ability.

But I think Rodgers will be a positive influence on Jimmy Graham, and if he stays healthy, he might be a lot better than he was with Wilson.

And honestly, I'm not sure our offense utilizes TEs well. I thought Cookie and Marty were going to be pretty dope over here and they both flopped (though Cook had one of the best catches in Packer history). This offense might just not be good at setting up TEs for success.

Too many variables for me to give an educated guess.
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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#10 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:02 pm

Jimmy, even at his age, seems like the version we wanted JF to be.
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Post#11 » by bizarro » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:35 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Jimmy, even at his age, seems like the version we wanted JF to be.


I kind of agree here. I mean, we're still looking at a significantly aged Jimmy Graham. But, man, I literally had a feeling each and every time Finley touched a pass it had a significant chance of falling on the ground.
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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#12 » by TankWilson » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:30 am

Kerb Hohl wrote:Are we talking about the context of what we thought Jermichael was at the time?

If I'm in the frame of mind that Jermichael is still able to explode, give me 2011 Jermichael.

If we have a hindsight view on Jermiachel, I guess I'd maybe still take him but it would be close.

I don't think Graham will eclipse 800 yards this year. He'll be a nice redzone target but he may have a few dud games that keeps him under 800 yards.


I'm saying if I could waive a magic wand and give you that 2011 finley that you knew would give you 800 and 8 would you want that or stay pat with jimmy going into this year? It was kind of a weird question but I thought a fin one since we havent had a TE since finley really. Cook was good when he played but that wasnt often enough.
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Re: 24 yr old 2011 jermichael or present Jimmy? 

Post#13 » by OGLife » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:10 am

Graham. They’re equal as scoring threats, but Jimmy is the better blocker. With that in mind, I’ll take him over Jermichael
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Post#14 » by crkone » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:32 pm

OGLife wrote:Graham. They’re equal as scoring threats, but Jimmy is the better blocker. With that in mind, I’ll take him over Jermichael





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