Defense - Every position ranked by 5 years of DRPM data

SF_Warriors · Post #21 » by **SF_Warriors** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:29 pm

Cant find klay anywhere.

Dupp · Post #22 » by **Dupp** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:36 pm

When shumpert is ranked 4 for shooting guards and korver is one of the 11 positive sg defenders you can tell this is hugely floored without context.

In saying that Crawford seems very appropriately ranked.

DROB27 · Post #23 » by **DROB27** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:57 pm

Lol Kyle Anderson at 3.

SkyHookFTW · Post #24 » by **SkyHookFTW** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:58 pm

For what's it's worth, Embiid and Simmons have played a little less than 100 games each.

Simmons (PG): +1.45, would be ranked 4th, not bad for a rookie
Embiid: +3.59, would be ranked 2nd

TTP · Post #25 » by **TTP** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:08 pm

Filthadelphia wrote:One of the greatest NBA mysteries to me: Amir Johnson is somehow SUPER impactful on defense.

The eye test doesnt do him justice whatsoever

Historically he's been pretty impactful on offense as well. He does a lot of little things well that are typically undervalued because they don't show up in the box score.

Luigi · Post #26 » by **Luigi** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:17 pm

Enes Kanter taking up the last spot for centers :lol:

iggymcfrack · Post #27 » by **iggymcfrack** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:21 pm

Very interesting all around. Nothing too surprising since you can get a pretty good idea just based off of the individual years how the composite would come together, but still nice to see it in one place.

Spicy P · Post #28 » by **Spicy P** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:21 pm

Raptors have three in the top 5: Leonard (1st), Green (2nd), Lowry (4th)

Five in the top 10: VanVleet (9th), Ibaka (10th)

Cappy_Smurf · Post #29 » by **Cappy_Smurf** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:25 pm

Luigi wrote:Enes Kanter taking up the last spot for centers

And Trey Burke 2nd to last for pgs.

I feel bad for knick fans who believe these two guys are anything but trash.

Post #30 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:33 pm

loserX wrote:Pretty crazy that only 11 SGs have a DRPM over 0 on this list

Not that crazy when he is leaving guys like Klay Thompson and Gary Harris off his list.

Edrees · Post #31 » by **Edrees** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:34 pm

This list surprisingly matches the eye test for the vast majority of the players on there. Wow.

Also, this goes to you show you that Curry is under rated as a defender. He's well above average for his position. He's got a whole half point more than Westbrook.

Luigi · Post #32 » by **Luigi** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:37 pm

The Rebel wrote:
loserX wrote:Pretty crazy that only 11 SGs have a DRPM over 0 on this list

Not that crazy when he is leaving guys like Klay Thompson and Gary Harris off his list.

#22 and #53 for shooting guards

ajdontwatchthat · Post #33 » by **ajdontwatchthat** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:38 pm

Not even shocked at where Wiggins and Towns are at. I like DPRM.

Post #34 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:41 pm

Luigi wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
loserX wrote:Pretty crazy that only 11 SGs have a DRPM over 0 on this list

Not that crazy when he is leaving guys like Klay Thompson and Gary Harris off his list.

#22 and #53 for shooting guards

According to ESPN DRPM calculations they are both positive defenders,.

Luigi · Post #35 » by **Luigi** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:42 pm

The Rebel wrote:
Luigi wrote:
The Rebel wrote:Not that crazy when he is leaving guys like Klay Thompson and Gary Harris off his list.

#22 and #53 for shooting guards

According to ESPN DRPM calculations they are both positive defenders,.

Last 5 years? I haven't checked his work, but they are certainly on his list.

Ballerhogger · Post #36 » by **Ballerhogger** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:44 pm

loserX wrote:Pretty crazy that only 11 SGs have a DRPM over 0 on this list

They are called shooting guards :wink:

mcgrady_1 · Post #37 » by **mcgrady_1** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:03 pm

Oh look people, Kyle Lowry barely made the list. Someone check the numbers quick!

everdiso · Post #38 » by **everdiso** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:20 pm

who would have thought we'd ever have a stat for defense that matches so we'll with the eye test?

pretty amazing.

Baarignani · Post #39 » by **Baarignani** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:22 pm

SalamiNCheez wrote::o Raptors have three in the top 5: Leonard (1st), Green (2nd), Lowry (4th)

Yay. They also acquired Greg Monroe who is their best defensive center. (Poor Jonas)

Denver is lucky. Jokic is an elite defender never knew that. Imagine a Jokic, Nurkic frontcourt they would dominate.

In all seriousness Jokic probably confuses the opponent with his passing so they become tired and inept on offense.

Post #40 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:28 pm

Baarignani wrote:
SalamiNCheez wrote::o Raptors have three in the top 5: Leonard (1st), Green (2nd), Lowry (4th)

Yay. They also acquired Greg Monroe who is their best defensive center. (Poor Jonas)

Denver is lucky. Jokic is an elite defender never knew that. Imagine a Jokic, Nurkic frontcourt they would dominate.

In all seriousness Jokic probably confuses the opponent with his passing so they become tired and inept on offense.

Jokic plays more classic defense, the way it was taught when i was a kid, in that even allowing a shot is a failure.

Read on Twitter

Rim defense is nice, but isn't it better to not allow a guy a shot? Jokic is elite in the league for least amount of shots compared to drives and opponent opportunity allowed at the rim as well