OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump

[Pointgod]

That's a dumb comment.

There's nothing fictional about this so far:



This isn't sports. We're not betting on the outcome.

This is about our democracy being put to the test by criminals and traitors and there is a special counsel investigating them. It is not speculation. It is not fiction. It is happening. Whether or not every indictment ends up in a conviction is not the point.

I never understood line of thinking that Muellers investigation could lead to nothing. Like you posted above there have already been several indictments and guilty please. There's simply no way to fake any of these and the amount of connections with Russia and the Trump campaign aren't a coincidence. We already know collusion happened. Trump has admitted as much. I have no idea how someone is still blind to this.

Anyways I always enjoy your posts. You still post on the CA board?

Hi Point, long time no see. I was banned from the CA Forum for being too frank about the trolling there, something that was not being addressed there with any coherence at that time. The Knicks mods are doing a great job of affirming useful posting guidelines here which means the fantastical, baseless rants and unfair taunts have almost vanished here.

You're always welcome to visit here.

Investigation blindness is a chosen condition. Those who elect to live in denial of the obvious criminality and treasonous behavior of this administration do it by choice. As we've explained here recently more than once, SIGINT picked up Trump cronies fraternizing with Kremlin operatives before the election campaign. This has been several decades in the making from the KGB and then the FSB and Trump was cultivated by them for many years in advance of this election. There are no coincidences in Trumpland. Everything is obvious and lines up quite perfectly. We just have to leave it to the professional investigators and prosecutors to do their job.

Appreciate it bro. I was banned from the CA board as well without explanation. Probably because I rightly pointed out they have a troll problem I might drop in here for time to time. Not sure if you have general politics thread but I've been lurking and appreciate the insight that you and other posters who use facts to back up your points make.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I never understood line of thinking that Muellers investigation could lead to nothing. Like you posted above there have already been several indictments and guilty please. There's simply no way to fake any of these and the amount of connections with Russia and the Trump campaign aren't a coincidence. We already know collusion happened. Trump has admitted as much. I have no idea how someone is still blind to this.

Anyways I always enjoy your posts. You still post on the CA board?

Hi Point, long time no see. I was banned from the CA Forum for being too frank about the trolling there, something that was not being addressed there with any coherence at that time. The Knicks mods are doing a great job of affirming useful posting guidelines here which means the fantastical, baseless rants and unfair taunts have almost vanished here.

You're always welcome to visit here.

Investigation blindness is a chosen condition. Those who elect to live in denial of the obvious criminality and treasonous behavior of this administration do it by choice. As we've explained here recently more than once, SIGINT picked up Trump cronies fraternizing with Kremlin operatives before the election campaign. This has been several decades in the making from the KGB and then the FSB and Trump was cultivated by them for many years in advance of this election. There are no coincidences in Trumpland. Everything is obvious and lines up quite perfectly. We just have to leave it to the professional investigators and prosecutors to do their job.

Appreciate it bro. I was banned from the CA board as well without explanation. Probably because I rightly pointed out they have a troll problem I might drop in here for time to time. Not sure if you have general politics thread but I've been lurking and appreciate the insight that you and other posters who use facts to back up your points make.

Please stay. We need posters like you and Clyde here. I used to "and 1" basically all of your posts on the CA board when I was there for a minute (now I only lurk...where I am going now, lol).

[HarthorneWingo]

I never understood line of thinking that Muellers investigation could lead to nothing. Like you posted above there have already been several indictments and guilty please. There's simply no way to fake any of these and the amount of connections with Russia and the Trump campaign aren't a coincidence. We already know collusion happened. Trump has admitted as much. I have no idea how someone is still blind to this.

Anyways I always enjoy your posts. You still post on the CA board?

Hi Point, long time no see. I was banned from the CA Forum for being too frank about the trolling there, something that was not being addressed there with any coherence at that time. The Knicks mods are doing a great job of affirming useful posting guidelines here which means the fantastical, baseless rants and unfair taunts have almost vanished here.

You're always welcome to visit here.

Investigation blindness is a chosen condition. Those who elect to live in denial of the obvious criminality and treasonous behavior of this administration do it by choice. As we've explained here recently more than once, SIGINT picked up Trump cronies fraternizing with Kremlin operatives before the election campaign. This has been several decades in the making from the KGB and then the FSB and Trump was cultivated by them for many years in advance of this election. There are no coincidences in Trumpland. Everything is obvious and lines up quite perfectly. We just have to leave it to the professional investigators and prosecutors to do their job.

Appreciate it bro. I was banned from the CA board as well without explanation. Probably because I rightly pointed out they have a troll problem I might drop in here for time to time. Not sure if you have general politics thread but I've been lurking and appreciate the insight that you and other posters who use facts to back up your points make.

Yeah, I was banned by tsherkin, the CA mod, from THE GD ENTIRE REALGM WEBSITE, bitches, as a result of a private argument over PM. If it wasn't for the a bunch of mods and posters here, I'd be on a one-way trip to Palookaville.

Yet, because of the bond we have on the Knicks forum, I am still standing here (except for the CA thread) and now, tsherkin is has been liquidated! My plan has worked to perfection!

Next? The so-called "president" Trump.

[Clyde_Style]

Papadadaplous has his sentencing date coming up soon.

Mueller recommended to the court he spend six months in prison. That's for a relatively minor player in this saga.

This guy's wife starting flipping out and evidently was begging for him to break the plea deal probably because she finally realized even with a plea deal her husband is still a felon who has to serve some time. Not smart on her part. Might have caused Mueller to up the time.

The one other guy to serve time so far, Alex van der Zwaan, the corporate lawyer who worked on Manafort's Ukraine project and who is married to the daughter of a Russian oligarch, spent one month in prison. He was popped for lying to the feds which gets you a date with prison.

Lots of people have lied to the feds and/or congressional committees. Kushner and Sessions lied under oath and on their induction forms when taking their assignments. Donald Jr. has lied so many times about the meeting in Trump Tower he is certainly headed for prison.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mueller-papadopoulos-russia-probe-20180817-story.html#

[HarthorneWingo]

Papadadaplous has his sentencing date coming up soon.

Mueller recommended to the court he spend six months in prison. That's for a relatively minor player in this saga.

This guy's wife starting flipping out and evidently was begging for him to break the plea deal probably because she finally realized even with a plea deal her husband is still a felon who has to serve some time. Not smart on her part. Might have caused Mueller to up the time.

The one other guy to serve time so far, Alex van der Zwaan, the corporate lawyer who worked on Manafort's Ukraine project and who is married to the daughter of a Russian oligarch, spent one month in prison. He was popped for lying to the feds which gets you a date with prison.

Lots of people have lied to the feds and/or congressional committees. Kushner and Sessions lied under oath and on their induction forms when taking their assignments. Donald Jr. has lied so many times about the meeting in Trump Tower he is certainly headed for prison.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mueller-papadopoulos-russia-probe-20180817-story.html#

I think he got off lightly. Because of his obstruction, we lost a witness who left the country during that time.

[Clyde_Style]

Papadadaplous has his sentencing date coming up soon.

Mueller recommended to the court he spend six months in prison. That's for a relatively minor player in this saga.

This guy's wife starting flipping out and evidently was begging for him to break the plea deal probably because she finally realized even with a plea deal her husband is still a felon who has to serve some time. Not smart on her part. Might have caused Mueller to up the time.

The one other guy to serve time so far, Alex van der Zwaan, the corporate lawyer who worked on Manafort's Ukraine project and who is married to the daughter of a Russian oligarch, spent one month in prison. He was popped for lying to the feds which gets you a date with prison.

Lots of people have lied to the feds and/or congressional committees. Kushner and Sessions lied under oath and on their induction forms when taking their assignments. Donald Jr. has lied so many times about the meeting in Trump Tower he is certainly headed for prison.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mueller-papadopoulos-russia-probe-20180817-story.html#

I think he got off lightly. Because of his obstruction, we lost a witness who left the country during that time.

Well, he could have only served a month like the other guy if he didn't complicate matters for himself.

When you consider that the sentencing for a Don Jr. or a Kushner or a Stone could easily be 10 to 20X worse than a small fry like this, even a factorization from 1 month to 6 months is the difference for the other bigger fish between a servable sentence and a whole lifetime behind bars.

So while I agree it feels fairly lenient, the context shows there is going to be a demarcation in how Mueller will recommend sentence length. Anyone who copped or will cop a plea deal now knows with greater certainty they could end up behind bars for a very long time if they don't comply to all of the agreed upon terms of cooperation.

Papadapolous is a stupid guy. He's like Butina. They both get drunk and blab to people about their activities at cocktail parties and end up getting reported to the FBI.

[HarthorneWingo]

Papadadaplous has his sentencing date coming up soon.

Mueller recommended to the court he spend six months in prison. That's for a relatively minor player in this saga.

This guy's wife starting flipping out and evidently was begging for him to break the plea deal probably because she finally realized even with a plea deal her husband is still a felon who has to serve some time. Not smart on her part. Might have caused Mueller to up the time.

The one other guy to serve time so far, Alex van der Zwaan, the corporate lawyer who worked on Manafort's Ukraine project and who is married to the daughter of a Russian oligarch, spent one month in prison. He was popped for lying to the feds which gets you a date with prison.

Lots of people have lied to the feds and/or congressional committees. Kushner and Sessions lied under oath and on their induction forms when taking their assignments. Donald Jr. has lied so many times about the meeting in Trump Tower he is certainly headed for prison.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mueller-papadopoulos-russia-probe-20180817-story.html#

I think he got off lightly. Because of his obstruction, we lost a witness who left the country during that time.

Well, he could have only served a month like the other guy if he didn't complicate matters for himself.

When you consider that the sentencing for a Don Jr. or a Kushner or a Stone could easily be 10 to 20X worse than a small fry like this, even a factorization from 1 month to 6 months is the difference for the other bigger fish between a servable sentence and a whole lifetime behind bars.

So while I agree it feels fairly lenient, the context shows there is going to be a demarcation in how Mueller will recommend sentence length. Anyone who copped or will cop a plea deal now knows with greater certainty they could end up behind bars for a very long time if they don't comply to all of the agreed upon terms of cooperation.

Papadapolous is a stupid guy. He's like Butina. They both get drunk and blab to people about their activities at cocktail parties and end up getting reported to the FBI.

The Honorable Harthorne Wingo presiding over sentencing. (Kinda looks like Trump there )

[Clyde_Style]

White House Counsel Has Cooperated Extensively With Mueller’s Obstruction Inquiry

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/us/politics/don-mcgahn-mueller-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

This is a big effing deal, because McGahn's job is White House Counsel, not Donald Trump's counsel.

But Trump is stupid and he continually misunderstands what client privilege means.

Trump made this mistake with Cohen as well and has already essentially waived any marginal client privileges he still had by revealing details he didn't have to reveal.

McGahn clearly has likely been put on the spot many times by Trump for whom all lines are blurred and who thinks McGahn works for him and not the executive branch. Hence, McGahn knows just about anything Mueller wants to know about Trump's relentless obstruction of justice.

And McGahn has clearly shared this with Mueller. Another nail in the coffin.

One thing I told the CA Forum over a year ago is McGahn shares the same lawyer as Priebus and Spicer. That lawyer would not take on one or the other client unless they've all flipped to Mueller and I said a long time ago Priebus and Spicer flipped even though it is not publicly stated yet. It's really obvious by drawing this simple connection.

And Priebus was a key conspirator who met secretly with Ambassador Kislyak to cut the deals the GOP leadership made with Russia in exchange for Putin's blood money.

Priebus and Spicer ran the RNC right through the GOP convention in Cleveland up to the election. They were McConnell and Ryans' butt boyz and they could not make any major moves on behalf of the RNC without the consent of those two top GOP leaders.

Thus, from this now public confirmation of McGahn's role in the investigation, you can be damn well sure Mueller also has full confessions about the GOP's sell-out to Russia.

Once again, this is much bigger than stupid Donald Trump. It is about the criminality of the GOP leadership as a whole and their actions will compute as a conspiracy against the U.S.A.

If this is being leaked NOW, then Mueller is setting the table for shocking GOP revelations prior to the November mid-terms just like I've always speculated he would in terms of timing.

[Clyde_Style]

Not going to create a new thread for this, but Wow this is disturbing

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Criticized for Excluding Press From 2 Town Hall Meetings

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/nyregion/ocasio-cortez-town-hall.html

She's a fugging idiot for doing this. Trump has been assaulting the free press with no restraint and she does this?

Stuff like this actually does make it easy to attack "liberals" as being as intolerant as the Alt Right

She better pull her head out of her ass fast or she'll have a very short time in the spotlight

Idiocracy indeed

[Clyde_Style]

Read on Twitter

[thebuzzardman]

:crazy:

Read on Twitter

Even though I've seen various versions of this movie a dozen times, it's been a few years. But isn't there a scene (or two) where popped smoke for the LZ is seen swirling around, and it's red or orange? It's sort of cinematically shown in a vortex.

I wonder if this is what this idiot, er, President is thinking about.

Anyway, shows how ignorant and stubborn he is - being so insistent when he's not sure. Or insensitive to the fact that everyone is disagreeing about it.

Probably, in his one track mind, he wanted to make some "Pro veteran, veterans good, agent orange bad" statement and had tied it in with the movie and got annoyed they were messing up his simple little script in his head.

*edit* - I read the article.

Typical Trump. He was uninformed about Agent Orange and the movie, but decided to have an argument over it as a distraction to the fact he hadn't done anything about it, that he lied about taking care of it, in terms of it being a campaign promise.

[magnumt]

Not going to create a new thread for this, but Wow this is disturbing

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Criticized for Excluding Press From 2 Town Hall Meetings

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/nyregion/ocasio-cortez-town-hall.html

She's a fugging idiot for doing this. Trump has been assaulting the free press with no restraint and she does this?

Stuff like this actually does make it easy to attack "liberals" as being as intolerant as the Alt Right

She better pull her head out of her ass fast or she'll have a very short time in the spotlight

Idiocracy indeed

Is that even legal?! It's a TOWN HALL!

--Mags

[Clyde_Style]

:crazy:

Read on Twitter

Even though I've seen various versions of this movie a dozen times, it's been a few years. But isn't there a scene (or two) where popped smoke for the LZ is seen swirling around, and it's red or orange? It's sort of cinematically shown in a vortex.

I wonder if this is what this idiot, er, President is thinking about.

Anyway, shows how ignorant and stubborn he is - being so insistent when he's not sure. Or insensitive to the fact that everyone is disagreeing about it.

Probably, in his one track mind, he wanted to make some "Pro veteran, veterans good, agent orange bad" statement and had tied it in with the movie and got annoyed they were messing up his simple little script in his head.

*edit* - I read the article.

Typical Trump. He was uninformed about Agent Orange and the movie, but decided to have an argument over it as a distraction to the fact he hadn't done anything about it, that he lied about taking care of it, in terms of it being a campaign promise.

Contextually though, it is worse than just stubborn idiocy. The draft dodger is trying to tell the vets who served in Viet Nam how they rolled.

[Clyde_Style]

Not going to create a new thread for this, but Wow this is disturbing

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Criticized for Excluding Press From 2 Town Hall Meetings

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/nyregion/ocasio-cortez-town-hall.html

She's a fugging idiot for doing this. Trump has been assaulting the free press with no restraint and she does this?

Stuff like this actually does make it easy to attack "liberals" as being as intolerant as the Alt Right

She better pull her head out of her ass fast or she'll have a very short time in the spotlight

Idiocracy indeed

Is that even legal?! It's a TOWN HALL!

--Mags

Not sure man, probably won't try to research that point. But you do have to shake your head or just laugh when an event called a "Town Hall" blocks reporters from attending. Truly oxymoronic.

[Dave DaButcher]

Reportedly, White House Counsel McGahn has cooperated fully and extensively with the Mueller investigation, agreeing to be interviewed for over 30 hours in three separate interviews.

Two takeaways from the article: (1) McGahn, his lawyer and others were astounded that Trump and his legal team did not seek to stop these interviews, which they believe Trump permitted in order to have McGahn take the fall; and (2) this could prove both extremely useful to Mueller and extremely damaging to Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/us/politics/don-mcgahn-mueller-investigation.html

[Clyde_Style]

Reportedly, White House Counsel McGahn has cooperated fully and extensively with the Mueller investigation, agreeing to be interviewed for over 30 hours in three separate interviews.

Two takeaways from the article: (1) McGahn, his lawyer and others were astounded that Trump and his legal team did not seek to stop these interviews, which they believe Trump permitted in order to have McGahn take the fall; and (2) this could prove both extremely useful to Mueller and extremely damaging to Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/us/politics/don-mcgahn-mueller-investigation.html

Trump is a man with no common sense. This is a guy who thinks you need to show I.D. to buy groceries after all. It is clear at this point that Trump cannot grasp that:

(a) Any interview with Mueller becomes evidentiary;

(b) Anyone interviewing with Mueller that withholds information puts themselves at personal risk;

(c) McGahn does NOT work for Donald Trump, but the American government;

(d) McGahn has ZERO obligation to protect Trump from Mueller as there is ZERO client privilege between him and Trump;

(e) McGahn flipped a looonnnnnggggggg time ago and EVERYTHING Trump has done that crossed McGahn's path has gone to Mueller;

and

(f) Both Priebus and Spicer flipped along with McGahn (explained in previous post).*

Adding Giuliani's insane behavior to the mix further complicates this situation, because Rudy consistently sabotages Trump to the point one has to ask:

(a) Is Rudy trying to take down Trump?

and

(b) Does Trump actually believe Giuliani is helping protect him?

If Trump and/or Giuliani actually do feel blindsided by the NY Times story then they have no chance of holding back the tide that is about to wash over them, because only an idiot inside the White House wouldn't have already figured out McGahn is not on their team.

Long story short, Trump is one of the dumbest people alive.

P.S. Any quotes in the article that Mueller will never indict Trump are stated in a manner that can be mistakenly taken as fact. These are not facts. These are completely uncited assertions coming solely from Trump associates putting that forward as fact when there are no such facts established at this point with no such corroborating quotes coming out of the Special Counsel's office.

Journalists and their editors are really low-grade these days. A quality traditional news organization would correctly state these are assertions and not leave that out there to be interpreted as anything but that. The New York Times is a shell of its former self.

This is the primary quote:

"Mr. Mueller has told the president’s lawyers that he will follow Justice Department guidance that sitting presidents cannot be indicted."

This is the worst kind of reporting, because it simply is untrue. Mueller made no such assurances to Trump. Giuliani lied and said this earlier, but Rudy has been lying on meth for months now. One of the boners these clowns made was essentially claiming obstruction is legal if you are the president. This reporting sucks.
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*Bannon also shared the same attorney as those three at the time of his departure from the White House, but there are reasons to believe he has not followed through with a full cooperation strategy like the other three due to Bannon's subsequent (1) active courting of white supremacist nationalist groups in Europe and (2) production of a pro-Trump propaganda documentary soon to be released.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't think Trump and Giuliani are specifically blindsided by McGahn.

I agree Trump is a pretty stupid individual.

But like all grifters and con men, he's good at having a finger on the pulse of who he is going to con. He also has profited and made a career and a lot of money of by knowing where the seams are in the law and when you can use money and power to intimidate and get away with things/make things happen.

(I know I'm opinionating here - I can back these statements up if need be)

As has been covered in here and in numerous news sites, Trump/Rudy G are banking on the fact that Mueller will present his findings to Congress and they figure after that, it's a "popularity contest" so Trump's efforts are into sowing doubt/discrediting the investigation and figuring that if the Republicans hold a majority, he'll skate. Sure, people will go to jail and he'll take some knocks, but it won't be Donald, and that's all that matters to him. I'm guessing he figures he'll survive the situation and be able to weather the storm by going on tweet storms along with the Fox News propaganda organ blaring full volume. This will help maintain his base, along with Trump figuring conservatives will rally to his cause, because, face it, modern conservatism is more about trolling liberals and "winning" than the rule of law. Since the Republican party has not shown any inclination to stand up to Trump and would rather just hold office and power, Trump figures (possibly correctly) he'll be able to bombast and brass his way out of it, like he has all of his adult life.

Trump is where he is because social and political events coalesced perfectly for him to take advantage and on a gut level, he knows this.

Now, I understand the arguments about Trump not getting off scot free not be so, but there's a certain logic to the Trump/Rudy playbook, but more to the point, I think THEY think this is a good approach.

Unless Trump winds up in jail, this is also possibly hedging towards a post presidential career, either where he resigns or makes it until the next election and (if) he isn't re-elected, he can proceed to profit over people's political divisions by running with something that splits the difference of Breitbart and Alex Jones and Trump can be the face of the "resistance"

[Clyde_Style]

I don't think Trump and Giuliani are specifically blindsided by McGahn.

I agree Trump is a pretty stupid individual.

But like all grifters and con men, he's good at having a finger on the pulse of who he is going to con. He also has profited and made a career and a lot of money of by knowing where the seams are in the law and when you can use money and power to intimidate and get away with things/make things happen.

(I know I'm opinionating here - I can back these statements up if need be)

As has been covered in here and in numerous news sites, Trump/Rudy G are banking on the fact that Mueller will present his findings to Congress and they figure after that, it's a "popularity contest" so Trump's efforts are into sowing doubt/discrediting the investigation and figuring that if the Republicans hold a majority, he'll skate. Sure, people will go to jail and he'll take some knocks, but I'm guessing he figures he'll survive it and be able to weather the storm by going on tweet storms along with the Fox News propaganda organ blaring full blast, he'll maintain his base. Since the Republican party has not shown any inclination to stand up to Trump and would rather just hold office and power, Trump figures (possibly correctly) he'll be able to bombast and brass his way out of it, like he has all of his adult life.

Now, I understand the arguments why this may not be so, but there's a certain logic to the Trump/Rudy playbook, but more to the point, I think THEY think this is a good approach.

Unless Trump winds up in jail, this is also possible hedging towards a post presidential career, either where he resigns or makes it until the next election and (if) he isn't re-elected, where he can proceed to profit over people's political divisions by running with something that splits the difference of Breitbart and Alex Jones and Trump can be the face of the "resistance"

Won't work

A house majority will unleash a fury of congressional committees that will make the Benghazi fraud look like a picnic. Those kinds of investigations result in hearings and the kinds of public disclosures the special counsel doesn't engage in. And those committees would obviously coordinate with Mueller so as to only reveal what Mueller has not yet acted upon just as the Senate Intelligence Committee has been doing due to the rare cooperation of GOP Senator Burr who has not played along with the rest of the GOP.

So post November mid-terms, it will get many times more brutal for Trump than it already is and we're only in the early stages of disclosure from Mueller's investigation which will ramp up another notch next month with Manafort's 2nd trial for conspiracy against the U.S.

If somehow Trump were still a free man in 2021 he will likely have been cut off from his credit lines as he will have little further use to Russia and he will be suffering from a combination of loan defaults and seizure of assets by state authorities.

The disgrace he will have undergone means any late career move into TV demagogery will have a limited remaining audience. It may put food on the table, but it will be very fringe if he thinks he can remain at the center of some Trump TV organization as its leading personality due to his obvious cognitive decline.

Trump's future is pretty bleak and there will be no soft landings for him no matter what is being cooked up by the addled minds of whatever he calls his brain trust.

And unless he is ousted via impeachment or resigns or croaks, I do expect indictments. I haven't gone by the MSM playbook so far and I see no reason to now. The larger media companies have repeatedly crapped the bed and they rarely connect the dots particularly well.

[KnicksGadfly]

Hi Point, long time no see. I was banned from the CA Forum for being too frank about the trolling there, something that was not being addressed there with any coherence at that time. The Knicks mods are doing a great job of affirming useful posting guidelines here which means the fantastical, baseless rants and unfair taunts have almost vanished here.

You're always welcome to visit here.

Investigation blindness is a chosen condition. Those who elect to live in denial of the obvious criminality and treasonous behavior of this administration do it by choice. As we've explained here recently more than once, SIGINT picked up Trump cronies fraternizing with Kremlin operatives before the election campaign. This has been several decades in the making from the KGB and then the FSB and Trump was cultivated by them for many years in advance of this election. There are no coincidences in Trumpland. Everything is obvious and lines up quite perfectly. We just have to leave it to the professional investigators and prosecutors to do their job.

Appreciate it bro. I was banned from the CA board as well without explanation. Probably because I rightly pointed out they have a troll problem I might drop in here for time to time. Not sure if you have general politics thread but I've been lurking and appreciate the insight that you and other posters who use facts to back up your points make.

Yeah, I was banned by tsherkin, the CA mod, from THE GD ENTIRE REALGM WEBSITE, bitches, as a result of a private argument over PM. If it wasn't for the a bunch of mods and posters here, I'd be on a one-way trip to Palookaville.

Yet, because of the bond we have on the Knicks forum, I am still standing here (except for the CA thread) and now, tsherkin is has been liquidated! My plan has worked to perfection!

Next? The so-called "president" Trump.

Damn what did you say to get him that pissed off at you?

[Pointgod]

One interesting thing heard on a podcast is that Trump is looking to revoke the security clearances of mostly involved in Russia investigation and witnesses in Muellers investigation. This is in an effort to discredit them in the eyes of the public (read Republicans) and in effect the the hands of Republican members of Congress when the indictments come down. This is all politics and nothing else. Which begs the question for the Trump supporting doubters, if he didn't commit any crimes why the hell is he losing his mind and going through all this trouble? In his own words be cool.