pancakes3 wrote:you're just too stupid. sorry.
Hey, cut it out, that's not the high road! When they go low, we get high!
I have an uncle, a brother-in-law, and a nephew who all served on submarines in similar capacities to STD, since US submarines are at least part spying operation at all times. Like missile combat crews, submariners have specific knowledge of specific technology, processes, procedures, and assignments related to their jobs, and this requires some level of security clearance. My father and my father-in-law both served in high-level government capacities in defense/international diplomacy, and these required much higher and much broader security clearances, giving access to much more information and allowing them to do their jobs. (PS: I have another brother-in-law and a cousin who are dentists, and I also have a cousin, an aunt, and a sister who are in real estate. At Thanksgiving, it's like STD IS THERE!)
In all these cases, the clearances are vetting processes, rating someone regarding access to present or future information. The clearance doesn't give anyone real time access to information they would not otherwise have. It's not like after the election, once Donald Trump became president, and suddenly by virtue of his being president elect he had access to real time top secret information which he immediately began sharing with Russia. It's not like when Donald Trump as president invited Russian dignitaries into the Oval Office and denied access to the FAKE NEWS press, but allowed Russian state run propaganda machine press in, the latter inadvertently (or not) recording and broadcasting Trump smilingly sharing (intentionally or carelessly, WGAF?) top secret information with a US enemy.
The Trump administration's very public revocation of security clearances, along with their very public threats to do so, is clearly intended to silence criticism and scare critics, just as Trump's war on FAKE NEWS is. These may stem originally from the fact that Trump is such a vain, thin-skinned egomaniac, but because his supporters are in such denial about their president's self-centered insecurity and boastful self-appraisals, he and his administration have increasingly been able to transform his childlike whininess into a political weapon casting any criticism of him or the administration as treasonous acts committed not against him but against the country and its people.
Pay STD no mind. I won't say his expressed views are harmless, but debating him can be a pointless exercise. You aren't debating actual points. He's either full on farce, political operative, or too deep in the koolaid to see 1brave9new8world4 picked up by his sonar. Or perhaps he and others are fearful that I am right, that this is the direction we are headed, and they don't want to fall on the wrong side of a full on fascist state. Little Trumps they are.
Not that I do all that much debating period, but I'm here all the time. You see me debating STD or GOC? I have at times debated Nate, and he's acknowledged a few of my points, and I've acknowledged a few of his points. That's a debate. I've had a few discussions with popper too. I've even debated dck--who I don't consider a conservative, he just wants to know where all the effing money is going to come from, which is a perfectly valid question. I've also debated with Zards and others who aren't conservatives at all. Debate with people who you disagree on something. Don't debate with human bullet pointed propaganda machines. Was not a man, was some sorta debatin' machine.
