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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#461 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:19 am

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Dr Positivity wrote:All players must be in their first five seasons - I thought of how one of the appeals of a pre 90s draft in bringing in some rarely used seasons like late 80s Jordan, Malone, Drexler, Hakeem, etc., which led me to the idea of going first five years for everyone

I know it's been a while but is it safe you assume you were thinking 80s to now for this one?


I think that's fine. It wouldn't be as stacked as a normal 80+ draft with some players like Kareem, Erving, Moses, etc. out and then weakening anyone else who took 6 years to reach their peak or hit a nice price as well
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#462 » by Laimbeer » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:02 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
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Dr Positivity wrote:All players must be in their first five seasons - I thought of how one of the appeals of a pre 90s draft in bringing in some rarely used seasons like late 80s Jordan, Malone, Drexler, Hakeem, etc., which led me to the idea of going first five years for everyone

I know it's been a while but is it safe you assume you were thinking 80s to now for this one?


I think that's fine. It wouldn't be as stacked as a normal 80+ draft with some players like Kareem, Erving, Moses, etc. out and then weakening anyone else who took 6 years to reach their peak or hit a nice price as well


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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#463 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:14 am

the four seasons draft: 17-18, 02-03, 89-90, 76-77
four key years. standard 85 FGA draft using only those four seasons
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#464 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:41 am

8on wrote:the four seasons draft: 17-18, 02-03, 89-90, 76-77
four key years. standard 85 FGA draft using only those four seasons

Why those specific years?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#465 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:46 am

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8on wrote:the four seasons draft: 17-18, 02-03, 89-90, 76-77
four key years. standard 85 FGA draft using only those four seasons

Why those specific years?


i think those are the years in which we get the widest array of talent. these are the years in which you can get all the MVPs (minus Rose and Bird) in their prime. four different generations.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#466 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:07 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:
8on wrote:the four seasons draft: 17-18, 02-03, 89-90, 76-77
four key years. standard 85 FGA draft using only those four seasons

Why those specific years?


i think those are the years in which we get the widest array of talent. these are the years in which you can get all the MVPs (minus Rose and Bird) in their prime. four different generations.

You get the MVPs yeah, but is there enough depth? I'd be shocked if we got more than 10 picks from 1976-77. Really any season before the late 80s is only going to produce a handful of picks IMO.

For the 21st century, I like 2005-06 and 2016-17 better in terms of elite players in strong seasons.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#467 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:48 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:Why those specific years?


i think those are the years in which we get the widest array of talent. these are the years in which you can get all the MVPs (minus Rose and Bird) in their prime. four different generations.

You get the MVPs yeah, but is there enough depth? I'd be shocked if we got more than 10 picks from 1976-77. Really any season before the late 80s is only going to produce a handful of picks IMO.

For the 21st century, I like 2005-06 and 2016-17 better in terms of elite players in strong seasons.


I kind of wanted to include the young guys, like Embiid, Simmons, Mitchell, Tatum, Capela, etc.

05-06 instead of 02-03 is basically trading peak McGrady for 35 PPG Kobe. Shaq is more usable in 03, as are Duncan and Garnett. You also get Wade and a LeBron season, but I'm not sure those make up for Shaq and McGrady.

No objections to 16-17 over 17-18
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#468 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:54 pm

Another idea is 72-73 instead of 76-77
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#469 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:05 pm

here’s my pick, after giving it some more thought:

72-73 (NBA & ABA), 89-90, 05-06, 16-17
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#470 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:05 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
8on wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Why those specific years?


i think those are the years in which we get the widest array of talent. these are the years in which you can get all the MVPs (minus Rose and Bird) in their prime. four different generations.

You get the MVPs yeah, but is there enough depth? I'd be shocked if we got more than 10 picks from 1976-77. Really any season before the late 80s is only going to produce a handful of picks IMO.

For the 21st century, I like 2005-06 and 2016-17 better in terms of elite players in strong seasons.


I agree the depth is the biggest problem. Maybe making all non all-stars eligible would help
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#471 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:10 pm

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8on wrote:
i think those are the years in which we get the widest array of talent. these are the years in which you can get all the MVPs (minus Rose and Bird) in their prime. four different generations.

You get the MVPs yeah, but is there enough depth? I'd be shocked if we got more than 10 picks from 1976-77. Really any season before the late 80s is only going to produce a handful of picks IMO.

For the 21st century, I like 2005-06 and 2016-17 better in terms of elite players in strong seasons.


I agree the depth is the biggest problem. Maybe making all non all-stars eligible would help


I think there are plenty of role players available in 06 and 17. You can find some in 90 and 73 if you know where to look.

I go back and forth on the seasons. Open to suggestions
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#472 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:17 pm

8on wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:You get the MVPs yeah, but is there enough depth? I'd be shocked if we got more than 10 picks from 1976-77. Really any season before the late 80s is only going to produce a handful of picks IMO.

For the 21st century, I like 2005-06 and 2016-17 better in terms of elite players in strong seasons.


I agree the depth is the biggest problem. Maybe making all non all-stars eligible would help


I think there are plenty of role players available in 06 and 17. You can find some in 90 and 73 if you know where to look.

I go back and forth on the seasons. Open to suggestions

1989-90 and the 21st century seasons should be fine. The question mark is the 70s. I do think 72-73 seems to have more options in terms of stars at least. Role players would be more of an issue, especially when it comes time to try and judge teams.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#473 » by 8on » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:25 pm

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8on wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
I agree the depth is the biggest problem. Maybe making all non all-stars eligible would help


I think there are plenty of role players available in 06 and 17. You can find some in 90 and 73 if you know where to look.

I go back and forth on the seasons. Open to suggestions

1989-90 and the 21st century seasons should be fine. The question mark is the 70s. I do think 72-73 seems to have more options in terms of stars at least. Role players would be more of an issue, especially when it comes time to try and judge teams.


Early on in my participation, we did a draft where we selected two players from each decade. I'm not suggesting that. You can pick any number of players from any of the four seasons. I definitely think role players can be found in 90, 06 and 17. It would be difficult to find good role player in 73, but I can think of five off the top of my head. Still, we probably don’t need to use any of them since most of the usual guys are available in 90, 06 and 17.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#474 » by ardee » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:41 pm

What about a last five seasons since we just did a first five.

But I do like the idea of specific seasons... I would go with '77, '90, '06, '17 and '18.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#475 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:57 pm

A draft where all your seasons have to be the same age, but you get to choose which age that is. Or a draft where every player has to be age 27. But it would probably be more interesting if not right after the current draft that already did a good job mixing it up with weird seasons

ardee wrote:What about a last five seasons since we just did a first five.


Kind of similar to the 32 and older draft we did, unless all 14-18 seasons are eligible because it's the last five.

All retired players draft? Could be a little flat for strategy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#476 » by lilroddyb » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:26 pm

What about one really short experiment game which will only last two rounds. In first round you can draft any two players alltime and in the second round you will draft the rest of your team and end up with 8 like usual and maybe only from 2010 - 2018

reasons

I have always wanted to see some monsters duos like Lebron/Mike, Magic/Shaq etc..

The last drafter will pick his entire team in one go. I have no idea how it would go, the monster duos might win this in a landslide but if we limit the second round with a short timeframe then I could see the first pick end with a lot worse supporting cast than the later picks

anyway it would be really short game and we could just go with ranking
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#477 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:25 am

ardee wrote:What about a last five seasons since we just did a first five.

But I do like the idea of specific seasons... I would go with '77, '90, '06, '17 and '18.

It's four seasons not five. Anyway, 2017-18 is kinda mediocre for star seasons IMO.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#478 » by 8on » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:43 am

I would run a game in which we used 72-73, 89-90, 05-06, and 16-17. I find that really interesting

In the future, we could focus on a specific era.

for example:
05-06, 10-11, 12-13, 16-17
84-85, 89-90, 94-95, 99-00
67-68, 72-73, 76-77, 79-80 (maybe with an exception, or we could do an old school game for once)

or whatever you want.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#479 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:54 am

How about a game where you can only pick one player from selected "bands" of the draft in which they were selected? So you can take one guy who was drafted in picks 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-30, then the other two can be any pick after 30 (or undrafted). You can pick from each band in whichever order you like. With only one chance to grab a top five pick, the element of snapping up stars who were taken lower down would add a new strategic wrinkle.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#480 » by migya » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:50 am

Teammates of an MVP draft.

You can only pick a player if he was a teammate of an MVP in the season he was MVP. Maybe 1970 onwards, since there hasn't been that many MVPs. Maybe 1980 onwards could work, as teams like Magic Lakers and Bird Celtics had quite a number of good players.

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