2018 Free Agency and Trade Discussion continued

Post #1601 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:08 pm

Mjeezy2006 wrote:I am starting to think that Ryan McD should be fired.... why make the deal last night without knowing if we could get a solid point guard in return somewhere else.

Now we are screwed ...

Wow, you like Knight that much?

8on · Post #1602 » by **8on** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:12 pm

NE1Care wrote:
8on wrote:Absolutely no way we can’t get Terry Rozier. Boston cannot afford to bring him back.

How many negatives are in that statement? I had to read it twice just to see if we have a chance or not.

hey, it could have been worse. I could have said Boston cannot afford not to bring him back.

BobbieL · Post #1603 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:21 pm

Blonde wrote:The Milwaukee pick is worth nothing until we trade it and it becomes one of the best assets in the league. Just like Chriss was a bust until he went to a contender. Just like Knight was the worst point guard in the league coming off a torn ACL until we traded him.

Still not interested in Terry Rozier.

Mark Stein tweeted going to Houston will revitalize Chriss.

My question: when was he ever vital?

The narrative around the league when you suck. The Warriors probably had this seven eight years ago. Clippers. Need to win

Mjee · Post #1604 » by **Mjee** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Mjeezy2006 wrote:I am starting to think that Ryan McD should be fired.... why make the deal last night without knowing if we could get a solid point guard in return somewhere else.

Now we are screwed ...

Wow, you like Knight that much?

That is not what I said !!! We have no pg

Saberestar · Post #1605 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:46 pm

Mjeezy2006 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Mjeezy2006 wrote:I am starting to think that Ryan McD should be fired.... why make the deal last night without knowing if we could get a solid point guard in return somewhere else.

Now we are screwed ...

Wow, you like Knight that much?

That is not what I said !!! We have no pg

I am afraid about McD making a move in the last minute of the preseason. He usually waits too long to make a trade or take a decision and sometimes that is really important for the chemistry/roles/coaching.

I hope he gets a PG before the start of training camp. It would be better for everyone involved.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1606 » by **Patsfan1081** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:47 pm

8on wrote:Absolutely no way we can’t get Terry Rozier. Boston cannot afford to bring him back.

Why not? He's not going to command huge dollars and Boston can match anything. They'll stay in the luxury if necessary, and if Kyrie leaves they'll def need him. Plus they're attempting ton win a title this year, so he has value to them even if they don't match in the summer.

8on · Post #1607 » by **8on** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:05 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
8on wrote:Absolutely no way we can’t get Terry Rozier. Boston cannot afford to bring him back.

Why not? He's not going to command huge dollars and Boston can match anything. They'll stay in the luxury if necessary, and if Kyrie leaves they'll def need him. Plus they're attempting ton win a title this year, so he has value to them even if they don't match in the summer.

because they can do something else with the money they would pay him.

if Kyrie leaves, which of the following would you prefer?
1) to be locked into Rozier
2) to have cap space to go after Giannis or AD in 2021

Damkac · Post #1608 » by **Damkac** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:09 pm

Just start Shaq. He could be like a PG version of Tucker. Not the most talented guy but brings energy and tough defense. We really need a good defender next to Booker.

BobbieL · Post #1609 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:17 pm

Damkac wrote:Just start Shaq. He could be like a PG version of Tucker. Not the most talented guy but brings energy and tough defense. We really need a good defender next to Booker.

Maybe PG becomes situational. Shaq for defense against certain players to help Booker. Okobo maybe for offense. A platoon situation as it were. Add Melton for his skill set. The bar is damn low from last year - one would think a combo of Shaq, Okobo and Melton will not be worse.

Saberestar · Post #1610 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:26 pm

Read on Twitter

PhxLax · Post #1611 » by **PhxLax** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:39 pm

Hmmm.... ----> http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycmnj5us

G - goran, shaq, okobo//melton (g-league for one of 'em)
G - book, waiters, reed
F - trevor, jax, bridges
F - ryan, bender, d.arthur
C - ayton, holmes, d.arthur (or another cheapo big if waive arthur)

BobbieL · Post #1612 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:40 pm

PhxLax wrote::pray: Hmmm.... ----> http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycmnj5us

G - goran, shaq, okobo/melton
G - book, waiters, reed
F - trevor, jax, bridges
F - ryan, bender, d.arthur
C - ayton, holmes, d.arthur

Not a fan of Waiters. But the Suns would have to take a long term contract

PhxLax · Post #1613 » by **PhxLax** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:43 pm

BobbieL wrote:
PhxLax wrote::pray: Hmmm.... ----> http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycmnj5us

G - goran, shaq, okobo/melton
G - book, waiters, reed
F - trevor, jax, bridges
F - ryan, bender, d.arthur
C - ayton, holmes, d.arthur

Not a fan of Waiters. But the Suns would have to take a long term contract

only reasonable trade i can make work w/ MIA unless u wanna play around with Josh Jax, which i doubt most wanna give up here. 28 million out, 29 million back.

PhxLax · Post #1614 » by **PhxLax** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:44 pm

100 posts. high fives all around.

Stix · Post #1615 » by **Stix** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:53 pm

Jeremy Lin anyone?

Post #1616 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:55 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Damkac wrote:Just start Shaq. He could be like a PG version of Tucker. Not the most talented guy but brings energy and tough defense. We really need a good defender next to Booker.

Maybe PG becomes situational. Shaq for defense against certain players to help Booker. Okobo maybe for offense. A platoon situation as it were. Add Melton for his skill set. The bar is damn low from last year - one would think a combo of Shaq, Okobo and Melton will not be worse.

Or Shaq as much as possible (or maybe a little Melton) with Booker, but when Bridges or Jackson are playing 2, or even Reed, they can play Okobo.

NaturalBuns · Post #1617 » by **NaturalBuns** » Sat Sep 1, 2018 12:17 am

Hate the trade take on more salary for next year FAs.
Doesn't make any sense to me it's like a dump for Houston while having more upset for them.

Dumb McD

Post #1618 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Sep 1, 2018 12:30 am

NaturalBuns wrote:Hate the trade take on more salary for next year FAs.
Doesn't make any sense to me it's like a dump for Houston while having more upset for them.

Dumb McD

Not if we waive Anderson next year. He is only guaranteed what Knight was. And we would have had to decline Chriss' option this October to open up that space.

By removing Chriss (even with adding Melton) we opened up $3 million more next summer if needed, and if we do waive Anderson, we could also stretch him which would get us up somewhere close to $30 million I believe.

Post #1619 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Sep 1, 2018 12:32 am

ZER0 wrote:Jeremy Lin anyone?

Wouldn't mind, but the Hawks only really have him other than Trae Young. And it would probably take more than a 2nd to get him...they'd probably want Melton or something.

NaturalBuns · Post #1620 » by **NaturalBuns** » Sat Sep 1, 2018 12:33 am

bwgood77 wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:Hate the trade take on more salary for next year FAs.
Doesn't make any sense to me it's like a dump for Houston while having more upset for them.

Dumb McD

Not if we waive Anderson next year. He is only guaranteed what Knight was. And we would have had to decline Chriss' option this October to open up that space.

By removing Chriss (even with adding Melton) we opened up $3 million more next summer if needed, and if we do waive Anderson, we could also stretch him which would get us up somewhere close to $30 million I believe.

The defense of booker,Anderson and ayton could turn into cringe worthy. I really hate the trade. I feel knight and Chriss are going to contribute for Houston.