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Political Roundtable Part XXII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#441 » by Ruzious » Tue Sep 4, 2018 1:04 pm

Smart move by Nike. I'm guessing the majority of their customers are pro Kaep, and this makes them look more progressive - even if it is just business - which it is. It might hurt their sales a little bit in the redneck states, but that's a small price to pay.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#442 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Sep 4, 2018 1:06 pm

Wall Street Journal:

Poll: Democrats regain clear advantage in midterms shaping up as referendum on President Trump

Two months ahead of the midterm elections, Democrats hold a clear advantage over Republicans in congressional vote support, with antipathy toward President Trump fueling Democratic enthusiasm, even among those in the party who stayed home four years ago, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#443 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 1:15 pm

Wizardspride wrote:Nike has sure triggered the deplorables.

As Steve Bannon and The New Yorker did with the liberal readers?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#444 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 1:18 pm

Thanks Jamaaliver and fivethirtyeight just updated their predictions...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Jamaaliver wrote:Wall Street Journal:

Poll: Democrats regain clear advantage in midterms shaping up as referendum on President Trump

Two months ahead of the midterm elections, Democrats hold a clear advantage over Republicans in congressional vote support, with antipathy toward President Trump fueling Democratic enthusiasm, even among those in the party who stayed home four years ago, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#445 » by TGW » Tue Sep 4, 2018 1:26 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#446 » by Pointgod » Tue Sep 4, 2018 2:43 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:Nike has sure triggered the deplorables.

As Steve Bannon and The New Yorker did with the liberal readers?


Steve Bannon is a **** white supremacist. That piece of trash's name doesn't belong in the same sentence as Colin Kaepernick.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#447 » by queridiculo » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:06 pm

Ruzious wrote:Smart move by Nike. I'm guessing the majority of their customers are pro Kaep, and this makes them look more progressive - even if it is just business - which it is. It might hurt their sales a little bit in the redneck states, but that's a small price to pay.


Smart move indeed, those that are protesting are part of a dying demographic/customer base anyway.

What will be interesting to see is how Under Armour's future shapes up given their brand association with white supremacist groups.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#448 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:07 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:Nike has sure triggered the deplorables.

As Steve Bannon and The New Yorker did with the liberal readers?

Steve Bannon is a **** white supremacist. That piece of trash's name doesn't belong in the same sentence as Colin Kaepernick.

And the other side feels the same way you do - nice to watch both sides get triggered so viscerally :D
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#449 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:12 pm

queridiculo wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Smart move by Nike. I'm guessing the majority of their customers are pro Kaep, and this makes them look more progressive - even if it is just business - which it is. It might hurt their sales a little bit in the redneck states, but that's a small price to pay.

Smart move indeed, those that are protesting are part of a dying demographic/customer base anyway.

What will be interesting to see is how Under Armour's future shapes up given their brand association with white supremacist groups.

Wait what? When does it make sense to limit your base as a manufacturer? This is just ridiculous...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#450 » by Ruzious » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:20 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:As Steve Bannon and The New Yorker did with the liberal readers?

Steve Bannon is a **** white supremacist. That piece of trash's name doesn't belong in the same sentence as Colin Kaepernick.

And the other side feels the same way you do - nice to watch both sides get triggered so viscerally :D

Is there really an equivalence there? If there is, we might not be able to get through this as a country.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#451 » by verbal8 » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:21 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Thanks Jamaaliver and fivethirtyeight just updated their predictions...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=rrpromo



There are a lot of possible paths at 2 months out. I figure part of that path for Republicans retaining control is them standing up to Trump. So the status quo and Republicans retaining control - is even less likely than just over 20% would indicate.



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Jamaaliver wrote:Wall Street Journal:




dckingsfan wrote:
Poll: Democrats regain clear advantage in midterms shaping up as referendum on President Trump

Two months ahead of the midterm elections, Democrats hold a clear advantage over Republicans in congressional vote support, with antipathy toward President Trump fueling Democratic enthusiasm, even among those in the party who stayed home four years ago, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds.

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The really bad part for Republicans is only getting 9% of the disapprove/Trump vote. It shows Trump is dragging the party down with himself.

One concrete example is the ballot what the Republicans are presenting to voters in the VA10(parts Fairfax/Loudon and I think some of the western counties of NoVA). Trump is a head-wind in the district, but Comstock is the incumbent. Having Corey Steward as the Senate candidate is a disaster. He is Trump without the "polish".

Comstock hasn't done anything to significantly distance herself from Trump. She put out a statement about Federal Employee raises, but she tried to throw Obama under the bus and didn't stand up to Trump at all.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#452 » by Ruzious » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:24 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Smart move by Nike. I'm guessing the majority of their customers are pro Kaep, and this makes them look more progressive - even if it is just business - which it is. It might hurt their sales a little bit in the redneck states, but that's a small price to pay.

Smart move indeed, those that are protesting are part of a dying demographic/customer base anyway.

What will be interesting to see is how Under Armour's future shapes up given their brand association with white supremacist groups.

Wait what? When does it make sense to limit your base as a manufacturer? This is just ridiculous...

Nah, It makes their current base stronger - which is more beneficial than losing a lot of a base that's nowhere near as important for them. Rednecks can't jump.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#453 » by verbal8 » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:34 pm

I think Beto has a real chance. Cruz is a really bad candidate. Looking through the Texas districts - there aren't a lot of purples and those that are - generally are Red districts that are a Democratic long shot. It really looks like it will come down to turn out. Cruz is the type of candidate who suppresses his own turn-out. Beto is the type of candidate who convinces casual voters to vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ted-cruz-chastises-beto-o-000225074.html
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#454 » by Pointgod » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:39 pm

Ruzious wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Steve Bannon is a **** white supremacist. That piece of trash's name doesn't belong in the same sentence as Colin Kaepernick.

And the other side feels the same way you do - nice to watch both sides get triggered so viscerally :D

Is there really an equivalence there? If there is, we might not be able to get through this as a country.


There is no equivalence. He's just being purposely obtuse.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#455 » by verbal8 » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:40 pm

Ruzious wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
queridiculo wrote:Smart move indeed, those that are protesting are part of a dying demographic/customer base anyway.

What will be interesting to see is how Under Armour's future shapes up given their brand association with white supremacist groups.

Wait what? When does it make sense to limit your base as a manufacturer? This is just ridiculous...

Nah, It makes their current base stronger - which is more beneficial than losing a lot of a base that's nowhere near as important for them. Rednecks can't jump.


The worst place to be right now as a fashion brand would be to be seen on one of the Trumps. I remember reading somewhere about outdoor brands being afraid of showing up on Trump Jr.

Keep in mind the clothing market you generally want to be younger and/or cooler than your target customer. And your target - especially for athletic wear is pretty young.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#456 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:41 pm

Ruzious wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
queridiculo wrote:Smart move indeed, those that are protesting are part of a dying demographic/customer base anyway.

What will be interesting to see is how Under Armour's future shapes up given their brand association with white supremacist groups.

Wait what? When does it make sense to limit your base as a manufacturer? This is just ridiculous...

Nah, It makes their current base stronger - which is more beneficial than losing a lot of a base that's nowhere near as important for them. Rednecks can't jump.

As a manufacturer - reducing the segments you sell to is just … unbelievably stupid. But maybe that is the way we go.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#457 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:43 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:And the other side feels the same way you do - nice to watch both sides get triggered so viscerally :D

Is there really an equivalence there? If there is, we might not be able to get through this as a country.

There is no equivalence. He's just being purposely obtuse.

There is no equivalence to a manufacturer? Watching both sides get triggered? sigh...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#458 » by dckingsfan » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:44 pm

verbal8 wrote:I think Beto has a real chance. Cruz is a really bad candidate. Looking through the Texas districts - there aren't a lot of purples and those that are - generally are Red districts that are a Democratic long shot. It really looks like it will come down to turn out. Cruz is the type of candidate who suppresses his own turn-out. Beto is the type of candidate who convinces casual voters to vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ted-cruz-chastises-beto-o-000225074.html

He is really good - comes across really well. Each of his "events" in Houston have been really well attended.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#459 » by queridiculo » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:51 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Wait what? When does it make sense to limit your base as a manufacturer? This is just ridiculous...


Branding and brand loyalty are far more important than how wide your base is.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#460 » by verbal8 » Tue Sep 4, 2018 3:59 pm

Who is the best politician that the Republicans are running?

Gillum/Beto/Stacey Abrams jump to mind as being very strong candidates on the Democratic side.

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