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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#901 » by DOT » Wed Sep 5, 2018 2:54 am

mugzi wrote:I find it very amusing that none of you have the integrity to comment on the petulant antics today during Kavanaughs confirmation. Does that not matter? Is civility relevant?

No? I guess not when you don't get your way?

Reminds me of my three-year-old niece when she's having a tantrum much like some of you in here.

Oh by the way do any of you realize that Ginsberg only had about 7000 pages of documents requested before her confirmation? How many were requested here when this guy's been on the appellate circuit for 12+ years? Oh a half million documents? LMAO. Obstructionist much?

Enjoy the Supreme Court for the next 25 years. ( Evil Monty Burns laugh)

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#902 » by mugzi » Wed Sep 5, 2018 2:59 am

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mugzi wrote:I find it very amusing that none of you have the integrity to comment on the petulant antics today during Kavanaughs confirmation. Does that not matter? Is civility relevant?

No? I guess not when you don't get your way?

Reminds me of my three-year-old niece when she's having a tantrum much like some of you in here.

Oh by the way do any of you realize that Ginsberg only had about 7000 pages of documents requested before her confirmation? How many were requested here when this guy's been on the appellate circuit for 12+ years? Oh a half million documents? LMAO. Obstructionist much?

Enjoy the Supreme Court for the next 25 years. ( Evil Monty Burns laugh)

Mic drop Mugz out.

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Who did you ------ to become a moderator?

Don't answer that.

Maybe you were raised differently but if I walked into a party cursed everyone out and took a steaming dump on the floor I would've left the party through a closed window.

That's basically what those people were doing today. Why don't you show me a post or an article that references something similar happening when Kagan and Sotamayer were appointed?

Go ahead I'll wait
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#903 » by stuporman » Wed Sep 5, 2018 3:03 am

Wait... is a Trumpadumper talking about civility? Oh that's too funny.....the farce is strong with this one.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#904 » by duetta » Wed Sep 5, 2018 3:19 am

mugzi wrote:Enjoy the Supreme Court for the next 25 years. ( Evil Monty Burns laugh)

Mic drop Mugz out.


The next Democratic President and Congress will be packing the Supreme Court, likely in 2021-2022.

Mitch McConnell made this necessary by refusing a hearing to a superb centrist judge, Merrill Garland. BTW, the filibuster is going too, so Republicans will be able to do nothing about it.

Everything Trump, McConnell, and their lackeys do between now and 2020 can and will be reversed.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#905 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 3:54 am

stuporman wrote:Wait... is a Trumpadumper talking about civility? Oh that's too funny.....the farce is strong with this one.


You beat me to it

The lack of self-awareness at such unintended irony must be some kind of super power
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#906 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 4:05 am

mugzi wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
mugzi wrote:I find it very amusing that none of you have the integrity to comment on the petulant antics today during Kavanaughs confirmation. Does that not matter? Is civility relevant?

No? I guess not when you don't get your way?

Reminds me of my three-year-old niece when she's having a tantrum much like some of you in here.

Oh by the way do any of you realize that Ginsberg only had about 7000 pages of documents requested before her confirmation? How many were requested here when this guy's been on the appellate circuit for 12+ years? Oh a half million documents? LMAO. Obstructionist much?

Enjoy the Supreme Court for the next 25 years. ( Evil Monty Burns laugh)

Mic drop Mugz out.

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Who did you ------ to become a moderator?

Don't answer that.

Maybe you were raised differently but if I walked into a party cursed everyone out and took a steaming dump on the floor I would've left the party through a closed window.

That's basically what those people were doing today. Why don't you show me a post or an article that references something similar happening when Kagan and Sotamayer were appointed?

Go ahead I'll wait


Show us when did a Democrat White House withhold over 90% of the nominee's records prior to a confirmation hearing.

If Kavanaugh's got nothing to hide then what are they afraid of?

Other nominees have had 99% of their records released.

Show us anything remotely similar. You can't, but ..........

Go ahead we'll wait
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#907 » by stuporman » Wed Sep 5, 2018 5:02 am

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stuporman wrote:Wait... is a Trumpadumper talking about civility? Oh that's too funny.....the farce is strong with this one.


You beat me to it

The lack of self-awareness at such unintended irony must be some kind of super power


It's epic. :lol:
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#908 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Sep 5, 2018 5:21 am

stuporman wrote:Wait... is a Trumpadumper talking about civility? Oh that's too funny.....the farce is strong with this one.


Funny how civility didn't matter when the president was black.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#909 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Sep 5, 2018 1:54 pm

mugzi wrote:I find it very amusing that none of you have the integrity to comment on the petulant antics today during Kavanaughs confirmation. Does that not matter? Is civility relevant?

No? I guess not when you don't get your way?

Reminds me of my three-year-old niece when she's having a tantrum much like some of you in here.

Oh by the way do any of you realize that Ginsberg only had about 7000 pages of documents requested before her confirmation? How many were requested here when this guy's been on the appellate circuit for 12+ years? Oh a half million documents? LMAO. Obstructionist much?

Enjoy the Supreme Court for the next 25 years. ( Evil Monty Burns laugh)

Mic drop Mugz out.


why is it amusing when it's not on-topic? you know better, man.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#910 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Wed Sep 5, 2018 5:24 pm

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There is really no reason for him to be there in the front row of the hearings other than to send a message that the DOJ is viewing the Kavanaugh nomination as possibly part of ongoing criminal investigations.


Actually, there is another reason -- the two of them have been friends ever since they worked together on the Ken Starr investigation. It's certainly possible that he was there to "send a message" but a far simpler explanation is that he was there to support his friend. We shouldn't forget that just because Rosenstein is an excellent public servant who takes his duty and the Trump investigation very seriously, he's still a republican who likely shares many of the same conservative values that Kavanaugh supports.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#911 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 6:47 pm

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There is really no reason for him to be there in the front row of the hearings other than to send a message that the DOJ is viewing the Kavanaugh nomination as possibly part of ongoing criminal investigations.


Actually, there is another reason -- the two of them have been friends ever since they worked together on the Ken Starr investigation. It's certainly possible that he was there to "send a message" but a far simpler explanation is that he was there to support his friend. We shouldn't forget that just because Rosenstein is an excellent public servant who takes his duty and the Trump investigation very seriously, he's still a republican who likely shares many of the same conservative values that Kavanaugh supports.


OK, that is possible, but improbable for the simple reason Rosenstein is 100% aware that him sitting there becomes a political statement that reflects upon his role in supervising Mueller whether they were buds or not, because Kavanaugh is clearly the nominee because Trump expects to be his backstop in the SCOTUS if he is indicted. The correlations are too obvious for Rosenstein to brush off glibly and say nah I'm here to support my friend. I don't believe that.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#912 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 5, 2018 7:31 pm

mugzi wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
mugzi wrote:I find it very amusing that none of you have the integrity to comment on the petulant antics today during Kavanaughs confirmation. Does that not matter? Is civility relevant?

No? I guess not when you don't get your way?

Reminds me of my three-year-old niece when she's having a tantrum much like some of you in here.

Oh by the way do any of you realize that Ginsberg only had about 7000 pages of documents requested before her confirmation? How many were requested here when this guy's been on the appellate circuit for 12+ years? Oh a half million documents? LMAO. Obstructionist much?

Enjoy the Supreme Court for the next 25 years. ( Evil Monty Burns laugh)

Mic drop Mugz out.

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Who did you ------ to become a moderator?

Don't answer that.

Maybe you were raised differently but if I walked into a party cursed everyone out and took a steaming dump on the floor I would've left the party through a closed window.

That's basically what those people were doing today. Why don't you show me a post or an article that references something similar happening when Kagan and Sotamayer were appointed?

Go ahead I'll wait


So you're comparing the actions of a private company around the free speech actions of a citizen to things elected officials do?

Do you really understand what Republicans and conservatives stand for?

The "antics" of Nike could stink to high heaven and it would be of exactly zero relevance to what is being discussed in here, other than that politics to you seems to be some kind of extension of cultural and identity wars.

Which is sort of amusing, as that's another thing Conservatives b*tched about liberals doing for years. (And not all of that an unjustified thing)

And yet, here we are, with modern conservatives freely doing the things they claimed for years to abhor about liberals.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#913 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 5, 2018 7:33 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
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Clyde_Style wrote:
There is really no reason for him to be there in the front row of the hearings other than to send a message that the DOJ is viewing the Kavanaugh nomination as possibly part of ongoing criminal investigations.


Actually, there is another reason -- the two of them have been friends ever since they worked together on the Ken Starr investigation. It's certainly possible that he was there to "send a message" but a far simpler explanation is that he was there to support his friend. We shouldn't forget that just because Rosenstein is an excellent public servant who takes his duty and the Trump investigation very seriously, he's still a republican who likely shares many of the same conservative values that Kavanaugh supports.


OK, that is possible, but improbable for the simple reason Rosenstein is 100% aware that him sitting there becomes a political statement that reflects upon his role in supervising Mueller whether they were buds or not, because Kavanaugh is clearly the nominee because Trump expects to be his backstop in the SCOTUS if he is indicted. The correlations are too obvious for Rosenstein to brush off glibly and say nah I'm here to support my friend. I don't believe that.


You've sussed out and researched some interesting stuff but I'm going with Starks and his dunk here.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#915 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:40 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:
Actually, there is another reason -- the two of them have been friends ever since they worked together on the Ken Starr investigation. It's certainly possible that he was there to "send a message" but a far simpler explanation is that he was there to support his friend. We shouldn't forget that just because Rosenstein is an excellent public servant who takes his duty and the Trump investigation very seriously, he's still a republican who likely shares many of the same conservative values that Kavanaugh supports.


OK, that is possible, but improbable for the simple reason Rosenstein is 100% aware that him sitting there becomes a political statement that reflects upon his role in supervising Mueller whether they were buds or not, because Kavanaugh is clearly the nominee because Trump expects to be his backstop in the SCOTUS if he is indicted. The correlations are too obvious for Rosenstein to brush off glibly and say nah I'm here to support my friend. I don't believe that.


You've sussed out and researched some interesting stuff but I'm going with Starks and his dunk here.


Sorry, it is way too conspicuous to be merely a friendly gesture of support. The only other spin I can conceive of at this moment is Rosenstein is humoring Trump which is easy to do as long as Trump thinks you're siding with him on something. That is a form of deflection that takes Trump's eyes momentarily off the investigation(s) overseen by Rosenstein. But, nah, there is nothing neutral about him being there.
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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#916 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:48 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:
OK, that is possible, but improbable for the simple reason Rosenstein is 100% aware that him sitting there becomes a political statement that reflects upon his role in supervising Mueller whether they were buds or not, because Kavanaugh is clearly the nominee because Trump expects to be his backstop in the SCOTUS if he is indicted. The correlations are too obvious for Rosenstein to brush off glibly and say nah I'm here to support my friend. I don't believe that.


You've sussed out and researched some interesting stuff but I'm going with Starks and his dunk here.


Sorry, it is way too conspicuous to be merely a friendly gesture of support. The only other spin I can conceive of at this moment is Rosenstein is humoring Trump which is easy to do as long as Trump thinks you're siding with him on something. That is a form of deflection that takes Trump's eyes momentarily off the investigation(s) overseen by Rosenstein. But, nah, there is nothing neutral about him being there.


Interesting take, like I said. And you've nailed quite a bit on this, so it'll be interesting to see. I was just going Occam's razor.

But a lot of what has been going on isn't the first easiest solution.

Conversely, it's not as complicated as the Q-Anon nuts make it.

It's like a magic act. Simple redirects and the truth is right there if you don't get distracted.
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Post#917 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:50 pm

duetta wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html


Nice try Ivanka.

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Post#918 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:51 pm

duetta wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html


Wow, that is extraordinary

Translation: I work for a completely reckless moron and pray for the day he is no longer president

Trump will now ratchet up from raving paranoid to Defcon 5 white straitjacket they're out to get me looney bin crazy

Trump's attacks on the failing NY Times are going to be a daily thing now

The one caveat I have is because this is anonymous, the NY Times could be duped into printing this as a counter-measure to the new revelations in Bob Woodward's book. Instead of denying he's an idiot, saying there are adults in the room is a form of buying time perhaps and not necessarily only reassurance to those who are genuinely scared of what impulses Trump will act upon next.

That said, it certainly has the ring of truth. It would be fascinating to someday find out who wrote this.

This line will be chewed over by the cult ferociously:

"This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state."

Whatever the full story is behind this it is certainly unprecedented.
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Post#919 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 10:52 pm

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duetta wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html


Nice try Ivanka.

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Re: OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump 

Post#920 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 5, 2018 11:00 pm

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You've sussed out and researched some interesting stuff but I'm going with Starks and his dunk here.


Sorry, it is way too conspicuous to be merely a friendly gesture of support. The only other spin I can conceive of at this moment is Rosenstein is humoring Trump which is easy to do as long as Trump thinks you're siding with him on something. That is a form of deflection that takes Trump's eyes momentarily off the investigation(s) overseen by Rosenstein. But, nah, there is nothing neutral about him being there.


Interesting take, like I said. And you've nailed quite a bit on this, so it'll be interesting to see. I was just going Occam's razor.

But a lot of what has been going on isn't the first easiest solution.

Conversely, it's not as complicated as the Q-Anon nuts make it.

It's like a magic act. Simple redirects and the truth is right there if you don't get distracted.


Totally true. It is often quite straightforward, hence my two year journey of saying look at this, it's right in front of you, wake up! because Trump is so obviously a money laundering hoodlum that it has continually mystified me how many half-baked people there are who can't put 2+2 together.

So it is often quite simple by virtue of so many of these crooks are rarely separated by more than one or two degrees of separation from one another or Father Putin. Alfa Bank is a money laundering institution that has been at the service of Putin. Wilbur Ross worked at Alfa Bank. It is not that complicated, though I'm sure the maps with push pins and post-its in Mueller's war rooms are a dizzying network of connecting lines you'd have to be a forensic accountant to wrap your head around. But the basics have often been basic as all get out.

But you still have to walk the line and see where things fall so I respect the Occam POV. It is a good general attitude to bring to this byzantine web of corruption as it plays out.

The redirects are mostly crafted by Russian operatives who spread their disinfo memes through the web and lackeys like Hannity and Alex Jones. Then the online cult regurgitates it to derail the basic truths that any sane person can grasp because they don't want to hear the truth that Trump is truly a dumb criminal backed by smart criminals.

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