Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 5

[qm22]

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This was confirmed to be BS, btw.

Headliner and I have better intuition than Rose with her ESP.

I'm surprised you guys were able to see it was BS, nice job. On the UFC side, I can imagine any type of debacle being possible, especially with their "promotional department". On the accusing side, I can't imagine how someone would come up with such a lie. I guess you have to be a sociopath and in tune with what will be the best particular choice to provoke outrage.

[Headliner]

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He’s coming for the 155 title!
Test training camp, is the online speculation.
what a beast.

Definitely looks like he can hit the 155 mark. Khabib vs GSP will be awesome

[lilfishi22]

Schaub thinks if Conor wins, that's the obvious match up. If Khabib wins, it's Woodley/GSP.

[Jasen777]

Schaub thinks if Conor wins, that's the obvious match up. If Khabib wins, it's Woodley/GSP.

Why would he want Woodley over Khabib?

[Jasen777]

Michael Chiesa files lawsuit against Conor McGregor, others for Brooklyn bus attack

[lilfishi22]

Schaub thinks if Conor wins, that's the obvious match up. If Khabib wins, it's Woodley/GSP.

Why would he want Woodley over Khabib?

No idea. He just said he's not going to fight Khabib but I don't really see a case for Woodley being more attractive either.

[Headliner]

No way do I see him fighting woodly after clearly working out and training his body to be conditioned for 155. Had he waited I could see it, but I think he clearly is fighting for legacy right now and wants that claim to 3 division champion.

Imo it goes:

Route one:
Conor beats Khabib and the next fight is CM vs GSP

Route two:
Khabib beats Conor and then GSP fights Khabib and of Diaz beats Dustin, Conor and Diaz fight. If GSP and Conor both win those fights, they fight after that.

[lilfishi22]

Yeah I don't see much reason for the Woodley fight. Doesn't add to his legacy. Everyone is hoping for Conor to win because it's the perfect story for GSP

[REDDzone]

I only want to see Conor/GSP if its for the LW title. Otherwise no interest.

I usually don't care so much about superfights if there are fights within the division that make sense. That said, if Khabib beats Conor, I'd watch Khabib/Woodley in a SECOND.

[REDDzone]

Also, listening to Diego Sanchez rants on MMAHour is still one of my favorite things to do in MMA. I was just eating it all up. So amazing. El corazon del lion!

So I'm sitting there, nodding my head, fist pumping to everything he's saying. Then he says he still believes that he is destined to be UFC champion someday and it like was a "KILL WHITEY!" moment for you guys who are old enough to know this reference from the movie Black Sheep. I'm just sitting there like NO DIEGO don't do this, you're losing 'em with this.

[Headliner]

Out of curiosity why wouldn’t you want to see GSP vs Khabib?
Khabibs history indicates that he’s pretty close to being a natural WW, so I think it has some interest though GSP would be the clear favourite.

I agree with you about woodly vs Khabib though, I’d love to see that
I’d also love to see woodly vs Whitaker

There’s some interesting matchups that can be made in the next year

[cowboyronnie]

Wouldn't Woodley destroy Khabib? I don't see that as nearly as competitive. Woodley drops pure strikers, time and time again, with the timing / distance on that right hand. Wonderboy, Till, Lawler, etc. These are about as good as it gets in terms of striking. They have each seen a lot of bombs thrown their way. So how is Khabib with his willingness to wander forward like a drunk guy looking for a hug going to avoid that rightt?

[lilfishi22]

Wouldn't Woodley destroy Khabib? I don't see that as nearly as competitive. Woodley drops pure strikers, time and time again, with the timing / distance on that right hand. Wonderboy, Till, Lawler, etc. These are about as good as it gets in terms of striking. They have each seen a lot of bombs thrown their way. So how is Khabib with his willingness to wander forward like a drunk guy looking for a hug going to avoid that rightt?

That's my first thought. Woodley isn't a great striker but he does work a great gameplan and as you mentioned, his timing, distance control and defense is rock solid.I think his striking is meaningfully better than Khabib's both from a defensive and offensive end. I'm not sure Khabib could take what dropped the MW Gorilla in Till.

[Jasen777]

That said, if Khabib beats Conor, I'd watch Khabib/Woodley in a SECOND.

I wonder how close to the same weight/size they are.

[Headliner]

Ya, actually thinking about it, I think Woodly tools Khabib. He's got tree trunks for legs, a superior base, superior stand-up and a strong wrestling game. Plus I don't think Khabib has really been tested against good competition.

[REDDzone]

Wouldn't Woodley destroy Khabib? I don't see that as nearly as competitive. Woodley drops pure strikers, time and time again, with the timing / distance on that right hand. Wonderboy, Till, Lawler, etc. These are about as good as it gets in terms of striking. They have each seen a lot of bombs thrown their way. So how is Khabib with his willingness to wander forward like a drunk guy looking for a hug going to avoid that rightt?

Reading the above, I'm assuming you don't think he's going to be able to avoid Conor's left? My point is that I'm just not sure assessing a striking battle between the two is ever the most appropriate way to predict a Khabib fight. I doubt you think he's so hittable during takedown attempts. LW is the probably the most skilled division in the sport so someone would have exploited that by now if that were the case.

[REDDzone]

I'm not saying I think Khabib would beat Woodley. I just think it would be a chess match. I actually thought the STRATEGY involved in the Maia/Woodley and Wonderboy/Woodley fights were interesting. Problem is that those fights drug out so much. The thing with Khabib is that he isn't Maia shooting the same exact takedown over and over and over. He has a diverse array of techniques he can employ, both against the fence and not, in order to try to drag Woodley down.

I don't listen to Schwab anymore but I read something recently where he said that Khabib was tooling Ed Ruth in the training room. Did anyone else see that? Khabib is one of the most specialized fighters in the sport and I would be interested to see those two guys try to implement their technique on the other.

[REDDzone]

Out of curiosity why wouldn’t you want to see GSP vs Khabib?
Khabibs history indicates that he’s pretty close to being a natural WW, so I think it has some interest though GSP would be the clear favourite.

I think this was addressed to me so I'll answer...like the Conor fight, I'm only interested if GSP/Khabib is at LW.

I don't care to see Georges fight non WWs at WW, personally. I actually think that would reflect somewhat poorly on him. Doesn't he claim he doesn't want to fight Woodley because he wants to make history and do something that has never been done? I'm not sure if fighting LWs at 170 meets that definition.

[Headliner]

Out of curiosity why wouldn’t you want to see GSP vs Khabib?
Khabibs history indicates that he’s pretty close to being a natural WW, so I think it has some interest though GSP would be the clear favourite.

I think this was addressed to me so I'll answer...like the Conor fight, I'm only interested if GSP/Khabib is at LW.

I don't care to see Georges fight non WWs at WW, personally. I actually think that would reflect somewhat poorly on him. Doesn't he claim he doesn't want to fight Woodley because he wants to make history and do something that has never been done? I'm not sure if fighting LWs at 170 meets that definition.

I don't think he ever addressed Woodely specifically, but I believe he said he doesn't care to fight anymore, but if he does he wants fights that excite him and the fights that excite are fights that will build his legacy as well as pull in money, though the money is secondary the former. When it comes to legacy, Bisping made obvious sense because it allowed him to be a two division champ, which puts him in an elite group.
A three division champ though is an incredible feat. Conor or Khabib makes sense. The idea that someone can fluctuate between three divisions at a championship level is incredible. Look at Conor, who is by all accounts a world class level talent. Two divisions was doable for him, but the third division, he lost and then barely beat a fringe, smaller, top 10 talent at 170. It's not easy.
Understandably, the optics would have looked better had he gone from 150-170-185 or even 170-150-185 as 185 would appear to be the hardest challenge, but whatever approach he takes to getting those three titles is incredible to me, and I doubt any other fighter in the world could match that feat.

As well, I don't think it looks poorly on TJ if he goes down to fight Mouse, or Silva if he had gone down to fight GSP. In fact I think it looks more impressive because the person going out of weight class is the one taking the risk. They are entering the unknown cardio area, having questions about their strength and endurance being tested.

I dunno, but whatever way you slice it, I can't see going out of division as reflecting poorly against someone.

[REDDzone]

You misunderstood my post. Fighting at LW would NOT reflect poorly on Georges. Fighting 155ers at 170 might, though. If he's going to fight Conor or Khabib, it needs to be at 155. If GSP is back to fighting at 170 then fight Woodley.