OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump

[Clyde_Style]

Just got home and am not current with the investigation this week, but I just saw that Manafort has made their plea deal.

Game changer

[Clyde_Style]

This Kavanaugh guy has more skeletons in his closet than Sinbad the Sailor

Dianne Feinstein Refers a Kavanaugh Matter to Federal Investigators

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein.html

QUOTE:

The senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee referred information involving Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, to federal investigators on Thursday, but the senator declined to make public what the matter involved.

Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school. They spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

[HarthorneWingo]

This Kavanaugh guy has more skeletons in his closet than Sinbad the Sailor

Dianne Feinstein Refers a Kavanaugh Matter to Federal Investigators

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein.html

QUOTE:

The senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee referred information involving Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, to federal investigators on Thursday, but the senator declined to make public what the matter involved.

Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school. They spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

I think it has to do with a sexual assault when Kavanaugh was a late-teen. I don't know whether it was during high school or college. In any event, if true, there's no way that Collins and Murkowski will vote for him. So he's toast. Or, rather, he should be toast.

[Clyde_Style]

This Kavanaugh guy has more skeletons in his closet than Sinbad the Sailor

Dianne Feinstein Refers a Kavanaugh Matter to Federal Investigators

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein.html

QUOTE:

The senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee referred information involving Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, to federal investigators on Thursday, but the senator declined to make public what the matter involved.

Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school. They spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

I think it has to do with a sexual assault when Kavanaugh was a late-teen. I don't know whether it was during high school or college. In any event, if true, there's no way that Collins and Murkowski will vote for him. So he's toast. Or, rather, he should be toast.

High School. Sounds like a rape charge and where it happened has no statue of limitations. Collins and Murkowski will end their careers if they vote for him now.

And there may be more along these lines, because one of Kamala Harris' written questions was “Has Judge Kozinski ever shared pornography with you?”

That does sound bizarre, but Kavanaugh worked for Kozinski who resigned his judgeship due to multiple charges of sexual harassment. And Harris is a former prosecutor and like Mueller she is not likely to ask a leading question like that unless she already has the answer.

So that leads me to believe the Dems already have in their possession serious dirt on his sexual escapades.

This is just going to keep getting worse for both Kavanaugh and the GOP.

The scenarios could now be:

(a) still try to push through Kavanaugh before mid-terms even though it is looking like multiple indictments will subsequently remove him from SCOTUS

(b) bail on Kavanaugh and rush to nominate and appoint another candidate before the mid-terms

So the longer the Dems draw this out while the GOP holds on to Kavanaugh the better it looks, because that could potentially result in Kavanaugh eventually withdrawing with not enough time before the mid-terms to ram through an alternate choice.

That leads to me to expect Kavanaugh will withdraw quickly to give the GOP time to push through someone else. If this goes on for weeks, that could be the best thing possible, because if it is not filled by mid-terms then the Dems could win the showdown especially if they do better in Senate races which I think is becoming more likely

[HarthorneWingo]

This Kavanaugh guy has more skeletons in his closet than Sinbad the Sailor

Dianne Feinstein Refers a Kavanaugh Matter to Federal Investigators

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein.html

QUOTE:

The senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee referred information involving Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, to federal investigators on Thursday, but the senator declined to make public what the matter involved.

Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school. They spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

I think it has to do with a sexual assault when Kavanaugh was a late-teen. I don't know whether it was during high school or college. In any event, if true, there's no way that Collins and Murkowski will vote for him. So he's toast. Or, rather, he should be toast.

High School. Sounds like a rape charge and where it happened has no statue of limitations. Collins and Murkowski will end their careers if they vote for him now.

And there may be more along these lines, because one of Kamala Harris' written questions was “Has Judge Kozinski ever shared pornography with you?”

That does sound bizarre, but Kavanaugh worked for Kozinski who resigned his judgeship due to multiple charges of sexual harassment. And Harris is a former prosecutor and like Mueller she is not likely to ask a leading question like that unless she already has the answer.

So that leads me to believe the Dems already have in their possession serious dirt on his sexual escapades.

This is just going to keep getting worse for both Kavanaugh and the GOP.

The scenarios could now be:

(a) still try to push through Kavanaugh before mid-terms even though it is looking like multiple indictments will subsequently remove him from SCOTUS

(b) bail on Kavanaugh and rush to nominate and appoint another candidate before the mid-terms

So the longer the Dems draw this out while the GOP holds on to Kavanaugh the better it looks, because that could potentially result in Kavanaugh eventually withdrawing with not enough time before the mid-terms to ram through an alternate choice.

That leads to me to expect Kavanaugh will withdraw quickly to give the GOP time to push through someone else. If this goes on for weeks, that could be the best thing possible, because if it is not filled by mid-terms then the Dems could win the showdown especially if they do better in Senate races which I think is becoming more likely

Could be rape. I think Kavanaugh will withdraw his nomination if this turns out to be as bad as we think it might be. And the republicans don't have enough time to ram through another nomination before the November elections. Moreover, McConnell can easily now go to Trump and say "I told you so." Even when you give Trump a stacked deck, it can easily be overcome by his greed. He wants Kavanaugh on the bench to protect him. It's always all about himself.

[HarthorneWingo]

Welp, all my horses lost in yesterday's democratic primary. The good news is that the IDC candidates got wiped out. Fck them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/nyregion/state-senate-election-results-idc-klein.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/09/13/new-york-democratic-primary-cuomo-idc/

[magnumt]

I'm a happy man!

Now onto 2020!

--Mags

[Clyde_Style]

Welp, all my horses lost in yesterday's democratic primary. The good news is that the IDC candidates got wiped out. Fck them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/nyregion/state-senate-election-results-idc-klein.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/09/13/new-york-democratic-primary-cuomo-idc/

James winning the AG nom is bad news for Trump. If there is anything being held back now by Underwood, James is going to fully focus the powers of New York on bringing him to justice.

[HarthorneWingo]

Welp, all my horses lost in yesterday's democratic primary. The good news is that the IDC candidates got wiped out. Fck them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/nyregion/state-senate-election-results-idc-klein.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/09/13/new-york-democratic-primary-cuomo-idc/

James winning the AG nom is bad news for Trump. If there is anything being held back now by Underwood, James is going to fully focus the powers of New York on bringing him to justice.

That would be cool. Here's the thing, it's easy to be anit-Trump as a democrat and to now want to put the screws to him if one is in such a position to do so. But what about after that? NY is really corrupt. I want to know what she'll do once Trump is a notch on her belt. Teachout, from what I read, had a better plan for fighting corruption in NY.

[cgmw]

This Kavanaugh guy has more skeletons in his closet than Sinbad the Sailor

Dianne Feinstein Refers a Kavanaugh Matter to Federal Investigators

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein.html

QUOTE:

The senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee referred information involving Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, to federal investigators on Thursday, but the senator declined to make public what the matter involved.

Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school. They spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

I think it has to do with a sexual assault when Kavanaugh was a late-teen. I don't know whether it was during high school or college. In any event, if true, there's no way that Collins and Murkowski will vote for him. So he's toast. Or, rather, he should be toast.

Hmm let's see... repressed sexual deviance from an:

1) Affluent
2) White
3) Male
4) Catholic
5) Extreme right-wing conservative

Man, I'd be shocked. I mean what's next, cover ups protecting lax bros accused of date rape? IDK seems far fetched.

[duetta]

James winning the AG nom is bad news for Trump. If there is anything being held back now by Underwood, James is going to fully focus the powers of New York on bringing him to justice.

I would have much rather have had Teachout. Not sure if James has the fire in the belly to go after Caligula in the fashion that he so justly deserves.

[j4remi]

Welp, all my horses lost in yesterday's democratic primary. The good news is that the IDC candidates got wiped out. Fck them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/nyregion/state-senate-election-results-idc-klein.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/09/13/new-york-democratic-primary-cuomo-idc/

James winning the AG nom is bad news for Trump. If there is anything being held back now by Underwood, James is going to fully focus the powers of New York on bringing him to justice.

Anyone that won was bad news for Trump. James won't be keeping Cuomo accountable which is the problem. But with the IDC wiped out, he can't use those guys for cover any more, so hopefully it's not an issue. Those IDC losses are gonna be the most important for people in NY. I was resigned to Cuomo beating Nixon, but watching the way they did Teachout is really upsetting. Maloney had no business running and James collected a gang of money off Cuomo help; they really didn't want Teachout winning after she hurt Cuomo's presidential prospects last time out.

[GONYK]

CNBC TV

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Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort agrees to plead guilty in deal with special counsel Robert Mueller

Former Trump campaign boss Paul Manafort has agreed to plead guilty in a deal with to resolve charges filed by special counsel Robert Mueller, but it is not clear if he will cooperate with prosecutors against President Donald Trump, court documents filed Friday indicate.

Manafort, who was set to begin jury selection for a second federal criminal trial next Monday, was charged in a superseding criminal information in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

That charging document alleges Manafort engaged in a conspiracy involving money laundering, tax fraud, failing to report foreign bank accounts, violating rules requiring registration of foreign agents, lying and witness tampering.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/ex-trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-agrees-to-plead-guilty-in-deal-with-special-counsel-robert-mueller.html

[Clyde_Style]

CNBC TV

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Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort agrees to plead guilty in deal with special counsel Robert Mueller

Former Trump campaign boss Paul Manafort has agreed to plead guilty in a deal with to resolve charges filed by special counsel Robert Mueller, but it is not clear if he will cooperate with prosecutors against President Donald Trump, court documents filed Friday indicate.

Manafort, who was set to begin jury selection for a second federal criminal trial next Monday, was charged in a superseding criminal information in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

That charging document alleges Manafort engaged in a conspiracy involving money laundering, tax fraud, failing to report foreign bank accounts, violating rules requiring registration of foreign agents, lying and witness tampering.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/ex-trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-agrees-to-plead-guilty-in-deal-with-special-counsel-robert-mueller.html

Make no mistake about it, when the press reports it is not clear he will cooperate that's just journalistic jargon for they don't know the terms yet. Further, Cohen didn't have all of the terms of cooperation explicitly stated, but he has been passed around like a joint to every investigation re: Trump since. IOW, when guys like this flip they spill the beans.

Manafort may have been the most complex to arrange because I believe this guy is in fear for his life which likely extends to his family. After he serves his reduced sentence, I don't see how he can resume his life under the same identity without getting poisoned.

[Clyde_Style]

Welp, all my horses lost in yesterday's democratic primary. The good news is that the IDC candidates got wiped out. Fck them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/nyregion/state-senate-election-results-idc-klein.html

https://theintercept.com/2018/09/13/new-york-democratic-primary-cuomo-idc/

James winning the AG nom is bad news for Trump. If there is anything being held back now by Underwood, James is going to fully focus the powers of New York on bringing him to justice.

That would be cool. Here's the thing, it's easy to be anit-Trump as a democrat and to now want to put the screws to him if one is in such a position to do so. But what about after that? NY is really corrupt. I want to know what she'll do once Trump is a notch on her belt. Teachout, from what I read, had a better plan for fighting corruption in NY.

I don't have an answer for you. I'm not current with NY politics. I leave that to you and Duetta.

James made going after Trump a campaign point of mention thus my comment.

[thebuzzardman]

CNBC TV

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Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort agrees to plead guilty in deal with special counsel Robert Mueller

Former Trump campaign boss Paul Manafort has agreed to plead guilty in a deal with to resolve charges filed by special counsel Robert Mueller, but it is not clear if he will cooperate with prosecutors against President Donald Trump, court documents filed Friday indicate.

Manafort, who was set to begin jury selection for a second federal criminal trial next Monday, was charged in a superseding criminal information in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

That charging document alleges Manafort engaged in a conspiracy involving money laundering, tax fraud, failing to report foreign bank accounts, violating rules requiring registration of foreign agents, lying and witness tampering.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/ex-trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-agrees-to-plead-guilty-in-deal-with-special-counsel-robert-mueller.html

Make no mistake about it, when the press reports it is not clear he will cooperate that's just journalistic jargon for they don't know the terms yet. Further, Cohen didn't have all of the terms of cooperation explicitly stated, but he has been passed around like a joint to every investigation re: Trump since. IOW, when guys like this flip they spill the beans.

Manafort may have been the most complex to arrange because I believe this guy is in fear for his life which likely extends to his family. After he serves his reduced sentence, I don't see how he can resume his life under the same identity without getting poisoned.

Agreed. I'm no legal expert (nor do I play one on TV) but it would seem odd to take a guilty plea without getting something significant in return. At the least, significant means other people in the Trump administration or it's campaign, and it's hard to get much more senior, in the campaign, after Manafort, so that doesn't leave too many guesses, considering the ones already eliminated (Flynn etc)

[Clyde_Style]

Make no mistake about it, when the press reports it is not clear he will cooperate that's just journalistic jargon for they don't know the terms yet. Further, Cohen didn't have all of the terms of cooperation explicitly stated, but he has been passed around like a joint to every investigation re: Trump since. IOW, when guys like this flip they spill the beans.

Manafort may have been the most complex to arrange because I believe this guy is in fear for his life which likely extends to his family. After he serves his reduced sentence, I don't see how he can resume his life under the same identity without getting poisoned.

Agreed. I'm no legal expert (nor do I play one on TV) but it would seem odd to take a guilty plea without getting something significant in return. At the least, significant means other people in the Trump administration or it's campaign, and it's hard to get much more senior, in the campaign, after Manafort, so that doesn't leave too many guesses, considering the ones already eliminated (Flynn etc)

Absolutely.

Flynn was a very big catch so early in the game and the fact that Mueller has yet to file for Flynn's sentencing says volumes about Flynn's ongoing utility to the investigation.

Manafort is IMO the biggest catch because he is the direct go-between for the Kremlin. Deripaska was ostensibly his middleman to Putin, but if anyone believes there was no other channels of communication open to Manafort I think they are mistaken.

His many years in Ukraine was essentially working for Putin. Ukraine's value to Putin goes well beyond geographical ambitions and speaks directly to how Russia (a) uses out of the country oil deals to pay off various operatives and (b) converts petro deals into other currencies like dollars. The Ukraine was a giant laundering hub for Russia and Manafort knows plenty about this among many other things.

So this plea deal is likely to be seen in the Kremlin as the terminal signal to Putin that the Trump regime is done in terms of its value to Russia. Manafort has more dirt than anyone when it comes to the investigation in conspiracy with Russia.

Pence is now completely cooked, because there is no way Mueller agrees to this deal without explicit details about Manafort's selection of Pence who was an unpopular Governor that was not going to run for re-election. There's no way the Trump campaign could not have found a more viable VP to appeal to evangelicals.

Pence was strictly a Kremlin choice. If anything, the simplest correlation would be Tillerson as SOT. Russia wanted to do deals with Mobil-Exxon for hundreds of billions in the thawing arctic regions so who could be better to have than Tillerson? Does that mean Rex was a de facto Russian asset? It could on the simplest level simply be that Tillerson is a greedy guy who would put money over country and that was enough to qualify him for SOT. So the correlation is Pence's brother was a big player in Russia with Cummins which is literally the go-to company for a robust demand for diesel engines in Russia.

So whether Pence was a programmed operative or not doesn't really matter. At a bare minimum, he was chosen for his bias in favor of Russian business interests. And Manafort selected him which is indisputable.

Regardless of those implications, Pence was the head of the transition team and he committed multiple felonies already in lying about his knowledge of Russian contacts or Flynn's activities during the transitional period.

Stack it all up and Pence just became radioactive with this plea deal.

Ultimately, I want the proof of direct communications regarding hacking the vote count. That and Pence is why I believe Mueller went to the mat with Manafort. If he gets proof of vote hacking that transforms this hugely. The constitutional crises are looming, not just regarding the indictment of a sitting president, but in terms of the actual validity of the election results which clearly look to have been falsified and the presidency stolen.

[awy]

The mueller group, particularly Weissmann and Mueller himself, has had some peculiar plea deal behavior in the past with Felix Sater, a central figure in the Trump situation. The basic situation is that Sater was granted an extremely extremely generous deal, including being allowed to keep illicit gains and continuing to engage in mob crime with full knowledge of the FBI. This is in exchange for some information in convicting a few side figures of the russian mob, nothing that reaches principal figures in the motherland or putting a stop to their continual operations.

one of the attorneys involved in fighting to unseal Sater documents that were sealed by Loretta Lynch in 2009 is skeptical of Mueller team's resolve in getting to the bottom of the situation but the recent convictions and pleas are certainly positive signs. However, given the level of information that is needed to convict a guy like Trump, it is still unlikely that the Mueller team got that goods in these plea deals. It may be about side characters.

[GONYK]

Meanwhile...

Reddit has finally banned r/greatawakening, the main QAnon subreddit, and then it banned /r/The_GreatAwakening, the backup subreddit where users fled. QAnon, the web of conspiracy theories — which involve Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and politicians and government officials stretching all the way back to Kennedy era — originated on 4chan through Q, an anonymous person purporting to have a high-level security clearance. It then quickly spread to Reddit, Facebook, and eventually offline.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17847186/reddit-qanon-milliondollarextreme-ban-sam-hyde

[Clyde_Style]

The mueller group, particularly Weissmann and Mueller himself, has had some peculiar plea deal behavior in the past with Felix Sater, a central figure in the Trump situation. The basic situation is that Sater was granted an extremely extremely generous deal, including being allowed to keep illicit gains and continuing to engage in mob crime with full knowledge of the FBI. This is in exchange for some information in convicting a few side figures of the russian mob, nothing that reaches principal figures in the motherland or putting a stop to their continual operations.

one of the attorneys involved in fighting to unseal Sater documents that were sealed by Loretta Lynch in 2009 is skeptical of Mueller team's resolve in getting to the bottom of the situation but the recent convictions and pleas are certainly positive signs. However, given the level of information that is needed to convict a guy like Trump, it is still unlikely that the Mueller team got that goods in these plea deals. It may be about side characters.

I know about Sater. He is two-time informant which speaks more to the Trump Organization's blithe indifference to the character of their associates since they already knew Sater (and why they specifically wanted him) was a money laundering criminal, regardless of their awareness of his past informant activities.

If you think Sater did not provide massively valuable information that would not only indict Trump but also his children, then your mind is in a place I cannot understand.

Sater may end up being most valuable for NY State prosecutions.

But the other guy to get a sweetheart deal was also a known criminal and George Nader got full immunity. If you think he yield meh details you're just wrong. He attended the Seychelles meetings and has plenty of intel on the Middle East and was at Trump Tower at the time of the Rosneft transactions.

Mueller already has plenty to indict Trump. He is not dependent on one person at this point.

But to suggest Manafort would yield nothing of substance that would either add to the strength of indictments or even incur new ones, you're so way off-base. Just his testimony alone adds ballast to the already accumulated data. If you think it doesn't matter that Manafort attended the treasonous Trump Tower meeting that both Don Jr. and Kushner attended then I have no idea what you're talking about.