New GM search [SPOILER: It's Elton Brand]

[sixers hoops]

Waaaaaaaah!!! Maybe you give the guy a chance first. Not one of you have any clue about his insights and his opinions on how the team can move forward. Most GMs are hired with no prior GM experience and since most of you didnt want a retread, how bout you wait.

Its not like other teams were knocking at the door of the Rockets and Jazz guys.

I also thought the Mods would actually be reasonable people who thought things through, but apparently anyone can be a mod.

You seem to get extremely upset anytime posters criticize the organization, and come here to tell everyone they don’t know anything. These forums are for discussing the Sixers, so anytime there is a major story people are going to come here to discuss it. And as long they follow the terms of service, posters are free to have an opinion that differs from your opinion. If you are looking for a forum where everybody is complimentary of everything the team does, this is definitely not it. If you want a forum where everyone waits a year before discussing the new GM hire, again, this isn’t it.

I havent seen one person make a logical argument against the selection.

all i read is how this is a sham and they dont know what they are doing.

if facts are presented that show someone else would have been a better selection, i would be glad to debate.

The fallback is always, Harris is ruining this team, blah blah blah.

Nobody has a clue about what Brand brings to the table.

At least wait for his PC

This board is filled with thousands of posts of illogical arguments. All you can do is post an informative response in hopes of enlightening some people. We have pages of people who have posts that haven’t aged well. Some didn’t want to draft Embiid, wanted to fire Brett Brown after a half season, saying Okafor would be an All-Star, and much more. People are welcome to post bad takes, and you are welcome to try to respectfully debate them.

[CoreyGallagher]

saying Okafor would be an All-Star

Low blow.

[sixers hoops]

Waaaaaaaah!!! Maybe you give the guy a chance first. Not one of you have any clue about his insights and his opinions on how the team can move forward. Most GMs are hired with no prior GM experience and since most of you didnt want a retread, how bout you wait.

Its not like other teams were knocking at the door of the Rockets and Jazz guys.

I also thought the Mods would actually be reasonable people who thought things through, but apparently anyone can be a mod.

You seem to get extremely upset anytime posters criticize the organization, and come here to tell everyone they don’t know anything. These forums are for discussing the Sixers, so anytime there is a major story people are going to come here to discuss it. And as long they follow the terms of service, posters are free to have an opinion that differs from your opinion. If you are looking for a forum where everybody is complimentary of everything the team does, this is definitely not it. If you want a forum where everyone waits a year before discussing the new GM hire, again, this isn’t it.

Honestly, more than half of the people here gets extremely upset if somebody responded contrary to their opinion. Check the kind of responses whenever you dont put Hinkie into sainthood.

Not saying anyone is right or wrong but atleast with fl311 he really knows the story.

And going forward i hope we maintain openness in discussion and try to take action on derogatory posts on a poster’s character just because its contary to anyone’s view.

Yes, warnings for attacks are not unusual on these board. However, just because you think someone “really knows the story” doesn’t give them a license to judge who has valid posts and who doesn’t. When posters launch attacks, the post gets reported, and the reported post is always evaluated. In my case, I like to think I judge reported posts without bias.

[FireMorey]

Quite often the cynical people get labeled as "the bad guys" of the board, but honestly, there is no reason anyone should be that upset over a sports opinion. It's not that serious. It's just for fun. Some people need to take a look in the mirror every once in a while and stop taking everything to heart and taking things so seriously. So, people don't like the Elton Brand hire? Who freaking cares who likes it or not it doesn't impact anyone's life. If someone here likes the move then good for you. That should be all that matters. And we can have fun debate about it, but the moment people get all sensitive about something as trivial as having a thought on a hire of a sports executive, then I think the purpose of why sports is enjoyed in the first place is lost. It's entertainment.

It's the direct equivalent as someone on a music forum saying they dislike ____ artist's new song and someone flipping out over it.

[BigSleep333]

Quite often the cynical people get labeled as "the bad guys" of the board, but honestly, there is no reason anyone should be that upset over a sports opinion. It's not that serious. It's just for fun. Some people need to take a look in the mirror every once in a while and stop taking everything to heart and taking things so seriously. So, people don't like the Elton Brand hire? Who freaking cares who likes it or not it doesn't impact anyone's life. If someone here likes the move then good for you. That should be all that matters. And we can have fun debate about it, but the moment people get all sensitive about something as trivial as having a thought on a hire of a sports executive, then I think the purpose of why sports is enjoyed in the first place is lost. It's entertainment.

It's the direct equivalent as someone on a music forum saying they dislike ____ artist's new song and someone flipping out over it.

sry for OT, but man, disses are the reason for em's resurrection. whos not loving it?

[sixers hoops]

Quite often the cynical people get labeled as "the bad guys" of the board, but honestly, there is no reason anyone should be that upset over a sports opinion. It's not that serious. It's just for fun. Some people need to take a look in the mirror every once in a while and stop taking everything to heart and taking things so seriously. So, people don't like the Elton Brand hire? Who freaking cares who likes it or not it doesn't impact anyone's life. If someone here likes the move then good for you. That should be all that matters. And we can have fun debate about it, but the moment people get all sensitive about something as trivial as having a thought on a hire of a sports executive, then I think the purpose of why sports is enjoyed in the first place is lost. It's entertainment.

It's the direct equivalent as someone on a music forum saying they dislike ____ artist's new song and someone flipping out over it.

Yeah. It’s a tough hire for fans to evaluate. I didn’t like the hire of Andy Reid, Doug Peterson, Howie Roseman, and many others who I lacked the background knowledge on to evaluate. If the Sixers hire a Gupta, Zarren, Hinkie, and some other candidates that previously served as assistant GMs, you are able to get information regarding their macro team building philosophy and you might have confidence in them learning from who they served under. Does that make them a better candidate? Not necessarily. Will it leave the fan base more confident you hired the right guy? Probably.

Ultimately, we know very little regarding Elton’s ability to evaluate players, his team building philosophy, and his ability to negotiate. We just know he is a nice, smart guy who I hope takes this team to the next level.

[sixers hoops]

Quite often the cynical people get labeled as "the bad guys" of the board, but honestly, there is no reason anyone should be that upset over a sports opinion. It's not that serious. It's just for fun. Some people need to take a look in the mirror every once in a while and stop taking everything to heart and taking things so seriously. So, people don't like the Elton Brand hire? Who freaking cares who likes it or not it doesn't impact anyone's life. If someone here likes the move then good for you. That should be all that matters. And we can have fun debate about it, but the moment people get all sensitive about something as trivial as having a thought on a hire of a sports executive, then I think the purpose of why sports is enjoyed in the first place is lost. It's entertainment.

It's the direct equivalent as someone on a music forum saying they dislike ____ artist's new song and someone flipping out over it.

sry for OT, but man, disses are the reason for em's resurrection. whos not loving it?

He is using the analogy in reference to people getting upset with someone not agreeing with them on a topic. Such as someone not liking the same artist or GM hire as you. You’re referring to the artist’s content which would be analogous to someone not liking a specific aspect of Brand’s executive skillset.

[BigSleep333]

Quite often the cynical people get labeled as "the bad guys" of the board, but honestly, there is no reason anyone should be that upset over a sports opinion. It's not that serious. It's just for fun. Some people need to take a look in the mirror every once in a while and stop taking everything to heart and taking things so seriously. So, people don't like the Elton Brand hire? Who freaking cares who likes it or not it doesn't impact anyone's life. If someone here likes the move then good for you. That should be all that matters. And we can have fun debate about it, but the moment people get all sensitive about something as trivial as having a thought on a hire of a sports executive, then I think the purpose of why sports is enjoyed in the first place is lost. It's entertainment.

It's the direct equivalent as someone on a music forum saying they dislike ____ artist's new song and someone flipping out over it.

sry for OT, but man, disses are the reason for em's resurrection. whos not loving it?

He is using the analogy in reference to people getting upset with someone not agreeing with them on a topic. Such as someone not liking the same artist or GM hire as you. You’re referring to the artist’s content which would be analogous to someone not liking a specific aspect of Brand’s executive skillset.

im saying i see no problem if somebody gets upset with someones opinion

[Att]

It's not about Brand. It's about the ownership making weak and pathetic decisions.
They were so close to making it but then came the interference with Okafor/Porzinigs, the embarassing end of The Process and the hiring of BC and now this. We're talking about decision making that The Sacramento Kings would be proud of.

[Eyeamok]

The man knows what it takes to get a big name player to come to Philly as a FA from personal experience and he seems pretty unlikely to have any burner accounts, so those are two pluses on his side. Let’s just hope he knows better than to recruit guys coming off of an Achilles injury for big money. It will interesting to see reactions around the league.

Executives don't lure players to teams, organizations and cities do. Lebron didn't go to LA because of Magic Johnson like the media driven propaganda would like you to believe. He went because LA opens the doors for him to pursue other ventures, he lives in LA, his family loves it there, it's a historic franchise.

Lebron sure as heck went to LA MOSTLY because of Magic. Magic is an amazing business man. Who can open multiple doors for Lebron, a lot easier than he could do on his own. Going to LA was only partially about basketball. Learning from Magic was a major major plus.

[Eyeamok]

His beard makes him look more Pop like.
He had a taste of the GM title and he liked it. But he also likes coaching too. Hmmm what would Pop do?
Pop would hire a friendly face that he can grow with and then go coach.
Elton your hired!

If Coach Brown can win and win big then I see nothing wrong with this at all.

[Kova]

Elton grew with this culture through the process. He is a team guy, willing to collaborate, aware that he doesn't have experience and won't do something cocky without consulting with Brown and the rest of the team.

I support that!

Congrats on your promotion EB!

[FireMorey]

The man knows what it takes to get a big name player to come to Philly as a FA from personal experience and he seems pretty unlikely to have any burner accounts, so those are two pluses on his side. Let’s just hope he knows better than to recruit guys coming off of an Achilles injury for big money. It will interesting to see reactions around the league.

Executives don't lure players to teams, organizations and cities do. Lebron didn't go to LA because of Magic Johnson like the media driven propaganda would like you to believe. He went because LA opens the doors for him to pursue other ventures, he lives in LA, his family loves it there, it's a historic franchise.

Lebron sure as heck went to LA MOSTLY because of Magic. Magic is an amazing business man. Who can open multiple doors for Lebron, a lot easier than he could do on his own. Going to LA was only partially about basketball. Learning from Magic was a major major plus.

I'd argue it was mostly because of LA. If Magic was in the basketball ops department of the Grizzlies, you think LeBron would go to the Grizzlies? He went to LA because it's freaking LA.

[sixers hoops]

sry for OT, but man, disses are the reason for em's resurrection. whos not loving it?

He is using the analogy in reference to people getting upset with someone not agreeing with them on a topic. Such as someone not liking the same artist or GM hire as you. You’re referring to the artist’s content which would be analogous to someone not liking a specific aspect of Brand’s executive skillset.

im saying i see no problem if somebody gets upset with someones opinion

I’m not very sensitive so I don’t get bothered if people disagree with me on Eminem, the Elton Brand hiring, or my favorite flavor ice cream.

However, it did annoy me when people didn’t give Hinkie the respect I thought he deserved. I was a supporter from the beginning and wanted vindication when I feel like my predictions of his strategy came true.

Keeping with the Elton Brand scenario, Elton has never been responsible for negotiating an NBA trade or contract, drafting a player (although he likely has shared thoughts of his on prospects over the years), or constructing an NBA roster. That lack of concrete track record creates risk. That does not mean he can’t be an excellent executive. It just means fans are going to be initially more skeptical, which is why I’m not surprised at any of the critical responses.

[Kobblehead]

Yeah, the whole Lakers becoming more appealing thing was basically due to the Buss sibling rivalry coming to a close.

[BullyKing]

Quite often the cynical people get labeled as "the bad guys" of the board, but honestly, there is no reason anyone should be that upset over a sports opinion. It's not that serious. It's just for fun. Some people need to take a look in the mirror every once in a while and stop taking everything to heart and taking things so seriously. So, people don't like the Elton Brand hire? Who freaking cares who likes it or not it doesn't impact anyone's life. If someone here likes the move then good for you. That should be all that matters. And we can have fun debate about it, but the moment people get all sensitive about something as trivial as having a thought on a hire of a sports executive, then I think the purpose of why sports is enjoyed in the first place is lost. It's entertainment.

It's the direct equivalent as someone on a music forum saying they dislike ____ artist's new song and someone flipping out over it.

Yeah. It’s a tough hire for fans to evaluate. I didn’t like the hire of Andy Reid, Doug Peterson, Howie Roseman, and many others who I lacked the background knowledge on to evaluate. If the Sixers hire a Gupta, Zarren, Hinkie, and some other candidates that previously served as assistant GMs, you are able to get information regarding their macro team building philosophy and you might have confidence in them learning from who they served under. Does that make them a better candidate? Not necessarily. Will it leave the fan base more confident you hired the right guy? Probably.

Ultimately, we know very little regarding Elton’s ability to evaluate players, his team building philosophy, and his ability to negotiate. We just know he is a nice, smart guy who I hope takes this team to the next level.

My issue is that regardless of whatever talent and insight that Elton can bring, we already have it. He already works for the Sixers and presumably we are utilizing his talents already. This was an opportunity to add MORE talent to the organization that wasn't already there. You could say, well now Elton's opinion will carry a lot more weight but if this was truly the collaborative environment we've heard about all summer then his opinions should have already been getting the weight they deserve.

[Eyeamok]

Executives don't lure players to teams, organizations and cities do. Lebron didn't go to LA because of Magic Johnson like the media driven propaganda would like you to believe. He went because LA opens the doors for him to pursue other ventures, he lives in LA, his family loves it there, it's a historic franchise.

Lebron sure as heck went to LA MOSTLY because of Magic. Magic is an amazing business man. Who can open multiple doors for Lebron, a lot easier than he could do on his own. Going to LA was only partially about basketball. Learning from Magic was a major major plus.

I'd argue it was mostly because of LA. If Magic was in the basketball ops department of the Grizzlies, you think LeBron would go to the Grizzlies? He went to LA because it's freaking LA.

If Warren Buffet had a team in Omaha and recruited Lebron at this stage in his career. I'd bet more than likely he would go to Omaha.

But that is just me. What do I know about the thinking of wanna be Billionaires and actual Billionaires.

[CoreyGallagher]

Josh Harris is so awkward.

[agiaco]

Is there a video introductions anywhere or is that yet to come?

[thenbaman]

Like i said before who cares what the puppets name is,he is still just a puppet.