Future Draft Games

[Fadeaway_J]

What about a draft where you can only use a player's fifth, tenth, fifteenth, or twentieth year? So if you take Duncan for example, you can only use 2002, 2007, or 2012.

How about a twist - must pick two from each group. Maybe rookie, 5, 10, 15. Have a couple of pools that are more limited.

Yeah that makes sense.

[Dr Positivity]

Pairs version of the Choose your accolades draft. You can either draft

MVP + non all star
1st team + all-star (non All NBA)
Two 2nd/3rd teamers

Or worse versions, 1st team and non all star is legal for example, and two non all stars

4 rounds of pairs picks

Trying to figure out how to make this one work. Require teams to draft one of each category? (and one non all-star pair) There should be incentive to draft any of the categories first just because even if some categories are better than others in a vacuum, you may feel it's wroth it to jump on the 2 2nd team all-NBAs first and waiting on an MVP to fall, it's just relative value

I could also make the 2nd category 1st team + 3rd team or worse. Since the third category should really be written as two 2nd teamers or worse instead of two 2nd/3rd teamers. I think MVPs should be paired with non all-stars instead of non All-NBA all-stars, since the best all-stars to never make an All-NBA is such a select group that between that and getting the best MVPs it would be too important a category. This would be another reason to make 1st team + 3rd team/all-star a group instead of 1st team + non all-NBA all-star

[Laimbeer]

Pairs version of the Choose your accolades draft. You can either draft

MVP + non all star
1st team + all-star (non All NBA)
Two 2nd/3rd teamers

Or worse versions, 1st team and non all star is legal for example, and two non all stars

4 rounds of pairs picks

Trying to figure out how to make this one work. Require teams to draft one of each category? (and one non all-star pair) There should be incentive to draft any of the categories first just because even if some categories are better than others in a vacuum, you may feel it's wroth it to jump on the 2 2nd team all-NBAs first and waiting on an MVP to fall, it's just relative value

I could also make the 2nd category 1st team + 3rd team or worse. Since the third category should really be written as two 2nd teamers or worse instead of two 2nd/3rd teamers. I think MVPs should be paired with non all-stars instead of non All-NBA all-stars, since the best all-stars to never make an All-NBA is such a select group that between that and getting the best MVPs it would be too important a category. This would be another reason to make 1st team + 3rd team/all-star a group instead of 1st team + non all-NBA all-star

I like the concept, would two second teamers stack up in terms of quality? And I'd require one of each tier, adds to strategy, imo.

[lilroddyb]

What about doing another prediction draft for the upcoming season? and after the season we do playoffs

[Dr Positivity]

Pairs version of the Choose your accolades draft. You can either draft

MVP + non all star
1st team + all-star (non All NBA)
Two 2nd/3rd teamers

Or worse versions, 1st team and non all star is legal for example, and two non all stars

4 rounds of pairs picks

Trying to figure out how to make this one work. Require teams to draft one of each category? (and one non all-star pair) There should be incentive to draft any of the categories first just because even if some categories are better than others in a vacuum, you may feel it's wroth it to jump on the 2 2nd team all-NBAs first and waiting on an MVP to fall, it's just relative value

I could also make the 2nd category 1st team + 3rd team or worse. Since the third category should really be written as two 2nd teamers or worse instead of two 2nd/3rd teamers. I think MVPs should be paired with non all-stars instead of non All-NBA all-stars, since the best all-stars to never make an All-NBA is such a select group that between that and getting the best MVPs it would be too important a category. This would be another reason to make 1st team + 3rd team/all-star a group instead of 1st team + non all-NBA all-star

I like the concept, would two second teamers stack up in terms of quality? And I'd require one of each tier, adds to strategy, imo.

2 2nd teams might be the weakest of the three (if doing 1st team + 3rd team) but I don't think it's as critical for them to be even as the last Choose Your Accolades game, there would likely be players who have strategy to take the best guys from the 2nd team category first knowing there will be MVPs and 1st team players available later

[Laimbeer]

What about doing another prediction draft for the upcoming season? and after the season we do playoffs

We really should get this going if we're doing it. Fade did a great job last time.

[LA Bird]

I would be down for a prediction draft. (Putting my name here in case I miss the sign up thread later)

[Zion Wembanyama]

60s-18

1 HOF
1 1st Team All-Nba
1 All-Star
5 non-accolade

Or

1 1st Team All-Nba
2 2nd Team All-Nba
1 3rd Team All-Nba
4 non-accolade

or

2 2nd Team All-Nba
2 3rd Team All-Nba
1 All-Star
3 non-accolade

[euroleague]

I like accolade pairs draft

[Fadeaway_J]

What about doing another prediction draft for the upcoming season? and after the season we do playoffs

We really should get this going if we're doing it. Fade did a great job last time.

The season starts on the 16th so I think we can wait until the weekend to start this one.

[Zion Wembanyama]

60s-18

1 HOF
1 1st Team All-Nba
1 All-Star
5 non-accolade

Or

1 1st Team All-Nba
2 2nd Team All-Nba
1 3rd Team All-Nba
4 non-accolade

or

2 2nd Team All-Nba
2 3rd Team All-Nba
1 All-Star
3 non-accolade

Any thoughts on this?

[8on]

slightly different Choose Your Accolades:

one MVP, seven no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
four All-Defensive (no MVP or 1st team), four no accolades

[8on]

slightly different Choose Your Accolades:

one MVP, seven no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
four All-Defensive (no MVP or 1st team), four no accolades

I'll start signups if you guys sign off on it.

[Dr Positivity]

slightly different Choose Your Accolades:

one MVP, seven no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
four All-Defensive (no MVP or 1st team), four no accolades

A couple thoughts

- There aren't that many all-stars who don't make all-NBA. So if both the groups who picked MVP or 1st team fill all have to fill the rest of their starting lineups with non All NBA all-stars, the pool would dry up pretty fast.

- I see 2 2nd team/6 3rd team as a better group than 4 all-defense. Even though the latter they could potentially get 4 2nd teamers, having to pick from only the all-defense guys really hurts the pool and takes away some of the desperately needed number 1 option candidates like Vince and Pierce (even for them the people who drafted them last time didn't make final four), plus for other standouts like Giannis or Billups the people in the other group might take them anyways. That's before considering if their 5th and 6th players are more restricted as well

For simplicity's sake I prefer the pairs accolades draft I proposed above. 2018-2019 prediction draft could also go next

[Dr Positivity]

60s-18

1 HOF
1 1st Team All-Nba
1 All-Star
5 non-accolade

Or

1 1st Team All-Nba
2 2nd Team All-Nba
1 3rd Team All-Nba
4 non-accolade

or

2 2nd Team All-Nba
2 3rd Team All-Nba
1 All-Star
3 non-accolade

Any thoughts on this?

First group is too strong for me by allowing them to get an MVP and another 1st team All-NBA.

[8on]

slightly different Choose Your Accolades:

one MVP, seven no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
four All-Defensive (no MVP or 1st team), four no accolades

A couple thoughts

- There aren't that many all-stars who don't make all-NBA. So if both the groups who picked MVP or 1st team fill all have to fill the rest of their starting lineups with non All NBA all-stars, the pool would dry up pretty fast.

- I see 2 2nd team/6 3rd team as a better group than 4 all-defense. Even though the latter they could potentially get 4 2nd teamers, having to pick from only the all-defense guys really hurts the pool and takes away some of the desperately needed number 1 option candidates like Vince and Pierce (even for them the people who drafted them last time didn't make final four), plus for other standouts like Giannis or Billups the people in the other group might take them anyways. That's before considering if their 5th and 6th players are more restricted as well

For simplicity's sake I prefer the pairs accolades draft I proposed above. 2018-2019 prediction draft could also go next

Slight change:

one MVP, seven no accolades
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
one DPOY, seven All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades

[Dr Positivity]

Slight change:

one MVP, seven no accolades
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
one DPOY, seven All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades

2 all nba 1st and unlimited non all NBA all-stars is definitely stronger than MVP and no accolades to me

[8on]

Slight change:

one MVP, seven no accolades
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
one DPOY, seven All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades

2 all nba 1st and unlimited non all NBA all-stars is definitely stronger than MVP and no accolades to me

edit #3:
1. one MVP, two All-Star
2. two 1st team, two All-Star
3. two 2nd team, six 3rd team
4. one DPOY (only restriction), three All-Defensive (no 1st team or MVP)

[Zion Wembanyama]

Slight change:

one MVP, seven no accolades
two All-NBA 1st team, six no All-NBA (All-Star OK)
two All-NBA 2nd team, six All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades
one DPOY, seven All-NBA 3rd team, All-Star, or no accolades

2 all nba 1st and unlimited non all NBA all-stars is definitely stronger than MVP and no accolades to me

edit #3:
1. one MVP, two All-Star
2. two 1st team, two All-Star
3. two 2nd team, six 3rd team
4. one DPOY (only restriction), three All-Defensive (no 1st team or MVP)

- 1 MVP, 1 3rd team, 1 all-Star
- 2 1st team, 2 all-star
- 2 2nd team, 2 3rd team, 3 all-star
- 1 dpoy, 3 all-def, 2 3rd team, 1 all-star

[8on]

2 all nba 1st and unlimited non all NBA all-stars is definitely stronger than MVP and no accolades to me

edit #3:
1. one MVP, two All-Star
2. two 1st team, two All-Star
3. two 2nd team, six 3rd team
4. one DPOY (only restriction), three All-Defensive (no 1st team or MVP)

- 1 MVP, 1 3rd team, 1 all-Star
- 2 1st team, 2 all-star
- 2 2nd team, 2 3rd team, 3 all-star
- 1 dpoy, 3 all-def, 2 3rd team, 1 all-star

is that better?