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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#161 » by jayu70 » Wed May 9, 2018 2:32 pm

macd-gm wrote:Ahh. Jeff Schultz chimes in with his bi-annual look at the NBA and the Hawks. What a genius. Pretty much everything he said there is wrong or a ridiculous oversimplification.

Would be interested to see what he said about the DF hire back then or the 60 win season.
Or how about Schlenk be transparent and not waste Bud's time and my time for the year by not saying he wasn't rebuilding, by not saying he was OK with 30 wins, and by not signing Dedmon and Illyasova and by not trading away Bellinelli.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#162 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 9, 2018 5:12 pm

Silly question, but could playing alongside Steve Nash in college affect his evaluation of Trae Young as a lead guard in the NBA?

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2. While at Santa Clara, Pierce was in the same backcourt as Steve Nash and was part of the school’s consecutive NCAA tournament appearances in 1995 and 1996. The guard averaged 7.1 points and 3.4 rebounds in four seasons.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#163 » by macd-gm » Wed May 9, 2018 5:35 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Silly question, but could playing alongside Steve Nash in college affect his evaluation of Trae Young as a lead guard in the NBA?

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2. While at Santa Clara, Pierce was in the same backcourt as Steve Nash and was part of the school’s consecutive NCAA tournament appearances in 1995 and 1996. The guard averaged 7.1 points and 3.4 rebounds in four seasons.


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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#164 » by jayu70 » Wed May 9, 2018 11:33 pm

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#165 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 11, 2018 6:04 pm

Might be time to give Coach Pierce his own thread...

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#166 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:20 pm

I've been giving this some serious thought for a few weeks now.

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Due to his inexperience, I do think Lloyd ends up being more of a bridge coach for us. A young, energetic player development specialist who helps transition us through the first phase of our rebuild.


And I think, should the timing play out right, there is one obvious future option as our coach of the future:

Luke Walton.


He has ties to Schlenk in GSW. He has HC experience. He oversaw that Warriors team that set the record for most wins in a regular season. And after the pressure cooker of LA and coaching Lebron, leading a franchise like the Hawks back to relevance would be a much less stressful scenario.

I don't expect anything for the next 2-3 years. But this choice makes too much sense not to be strongly considered down the road.

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Atlanta needs a bridge coach — à la Mark Jackson — who can set a foundation for the future while simultaneously energizing the fan base in the present. Development matters just as much as identity, especially when it comes to recent draft picks like Taurean Prince, John Collins, and whomever Atlanta takes with the projected fourth pick in this year’s draft.
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Post#167 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:49 am

Or Steve Nash?
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#168 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:52 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:And I think, should the timing play out right, there is one obvious future option as our coach of the future:

Luke Walton.



The timing of this all playing out is the really hard thing to predict, but...

A Way-Too-Early Look at the NBA Coaches Who May Be on the Hot Seat

No one is getting a pink slip a week into the season, but there are still high stakes for some notable coaches

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Coaching the Lakers already brings a lot of pressure. That pressure is infinitely higher when the Lakers have LeBron James. Over the last two seasons, Walton has led really bad L.A. teams to really bad records—26-56 in 2016-17 and 35-47 in 2017-18—and he’s now expected to form rotations worthy of a deep postseason run. LeBron will act as fixer there; he’s done more in Cleveland with less. But the moment something starts to go wrong on a LeBron team—Los Angeles is 0-2, so it’s already kind of there—the entire operation gets picked apart until a culprit can be found. That’s easily the coach, especially in this instance. We all remember David Blatt, who was also a first-time NBA head coach.
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I like all we've seen/heard from Lloyd Pierce. But the odds that he's the guy who brings us back to prominence is slim. He may just be keeping the seat warm for someone else.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#169 » by kg01 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:03 pm

What .... is the matter with you?

Can we play 4 games first? Please?

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#170 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:04 pm

I bring this up, not to slight Coach Pierce. I've been impressed by him from the start and his coaching these past four games has reassured me after some very experimental tactics questionable coaching at Utah Summer League.

But, I have to wonder...if Luke Walton had been available earlier this year during our own coaching search, would he have been at the top of Travis' potential coaching list?

Due to his ties with Travis and Golden State, is there any chance Walton ends up on our coaching staff as an assistant moving forward?


Does anyone know if Luke and Lloyd have a working relationship at all?
Would having Coach Walton aboard give us a better shot at attracting Klay Thompson here in Free Agency next summer?

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#171 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:18 pm

Luke hasn't done anything except for winning a few games when Kerr was out.

The chance of Klay coming here is sooooo low. GSW - LAL - NYK - BRK

Unless LP does very bad, getting rid of him in a year would look real bad.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#172 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:02 am

There is pretty much no scenario where Lloyd is let go after a single year.

FTR, no one is saying/predicting/advocating that.

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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#173 » by jayu70 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:01 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:Luke hasn't done anything except for winning a few games when Kerr was out.

The chance of Klay coming here is sooooo low. GSW - LAL - NYK - BRK

Unless LP does very bad, getting rid of him in a year would look real bad.

:nod: :nod: - he's had a plethora of young draft LOTTERY picks that hasn't done much.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#174 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:02 pm

No slight to Lloyd (though I am concerned with his obsession with the 3-ball.)

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But Luke Walton led Lakers to 35 wins last season and they were one of the better defensive teams -- with a pretty limited roster.

I also agree it's unlikely Klay comes here. But if Trav is indeed serious about us ramping up and becoming more competitive next summer, he'd make a worthy target.

And he'll be wooed by a number of familiar faces. From Travis, to Chelsea Lane to Larry Riley. If we have the next Steph Curry in our lineup and a familiar face or two among the assistant coaches...I think it'd be a somewhat compelling offer. The chance to move out of Steph's shadow, be the featured option and compete in a much weaker conference.

Just spitballing. But we have the front office personnel to make a serious run at Klay or Draymond.

NOTE: I don't want Draymond.


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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#175 » by kg01 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:05 pm

Luke Walton is a well-friended fraud. Why are we even talking about this?
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#176 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:06 pm

kg01 wrote:Luke Walton is a well-friended fraud. Why are we even talking about this?



Because I love you.

And I want this crazy theory on record.
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#177 » by kg01 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:09 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Luke Walton is a well-friended fraud. Why are we even talking about this?



Because I love you.

And I want this crazy theory on record.


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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#178 » by jayu70 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:09 pm

kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Luke Walton is a well-friended fraud. Why are we even talking about this?



Because I love you.

And I want this crazy theory on record.


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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#179 » by kg01 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:39 pm

jayu70 wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

Because I love you.

And I want this crazy theory on record.


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There should be a 'dislike' button for moments like this.

:lol: :lol:


:lol: @jamally is gonna murder me in my sleep one day. :(
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Re: Potential Coaching Options Moving Forward 

Post#180 » by jayu70 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:44 pm

kg01 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
kg01 wrote:
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There should be a 'dislike' button for moments like this.

:lol: :lol:


:lol: @jamally is gonna murder me in my sleep one day. :(

I hope I'm there to see it :P ....not really though :)

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