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Re: GT: Bills at Packers - Noon - CBS 

Post#301 » by LikeABosh » Mon Oct 1, 2018 5:04 am

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LikeABosh wrote:How the hell did this Bills team embarrass the Vikings in Minnesota?


Vikings are overrated?


Even if they were average, this Bills team is really bad and has been blown out in every game except for their 1 win
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Re: GT: Bills at Packers - Noon - CBS 

Post#302 » by th87 » Mon Oct 1, 2018 5:12 am

I loved MM. 2007 showed his great creativity at the time, and the second half of 2010-2011 were fun to watch.

But then 2015 happened, which illustrated how stagnant and passe things became.

So I'm ready to move in a different direction. But what will it take to make it happen? If we lose in the divisional, does he stay? So then should I be pseudo-happy with losses that bring us closer to his departure? I don't think we have what it takes to win the SB anymore unless our talent overpowers everyone, and that's unlikely.
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Re: GT: Bills at Packers - Noon - CBS 

Post#303 » by Balls2TheWalls » Mon Oct 1, 2018 8:53 am

I actually thought McCarthy called a great game today. The offensive production was marred by drops and Rodgers being unwilling to take checkdowns. The biggest issue I saw for McCarthy against the Bills is that he does a rotation RB by committee instead of getting the ball in the hands of a playmaker. McCarthy was calling plays out of balanced tendency sets. He was willing to set up play action. I actually think that this was a bad game to act like he was a problem.

If someone has a video of Fackrell's sacks, I would really love to see it. Thanks.
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Post#304 » by Dandridgefav » Mon Oct 1, 2018 11:34 am

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zmanishere11 wrote:I very much appreciate Rodgers implying that MM is trash. Here's an easy example:

Jones had 12 touches and 82 yards. Williams 11 for 27 yards.

This time share at RB needs to end. If you turn on the Rams, Pats, Saints (best offenses in the league) - their entire offenses are built around getting their RB's touches in space, because that's where all the mismatches are. This opens up so much for every other player on their offense it's ridiculous.

Jones is a stud. Williams is just a guy. And Montgomery is the perfect backup if you have any creativity whatsoever.

MM is a huge net negative to this team, and will continue to hold this offense back


I have resisted the dump McCarthy movement to date - but he keeps giving reasons to cut him loose - from his innane challenge flag usage, to running inside almost every 1st down, and his terrible sense of talent evaluation - I know GM is man who makes roster calls but the HC must have major impact.
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Post#305 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Oct 1, 2018 1:06 pm

Weird game to bash MMs play calling. There was at least five drops and and Aaron missed a couple TD throws. Better on field performance and Aaron has 400 yards and 3 TDS in a 42-0 win.
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Post#306 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Oct 1, 2018 1:17 pm

McCarthy sometimes does this against teams that seem to have no business being anywhere close to in the game. I'm sure it has opened the door once or twice for inferior teams to beat us. Reigns in the playcalls in the 2nd quarter.
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Re: GT: Bills at Packers - Noon - CBS 

Post#307 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Oct 1, 2018 1:58 pm

Rodgers is looking around the league at the new innovative offenses that leave WRs WIDE OPEN all over the field and he's wondering why that isn't happening here.
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Post#308 » by Mags FTW » Mon Oct 1, 2018 2:39 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Rodgers is looking around the league at the new innovative offenses that leave WRs WIDE OPEN all over the field and he's wondering why that isn't happening here.

The bomb to Monty was a good play that got him wide open, as well as the pick play TD to Graham. That was about it.
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Post#309 » by JimmyTheKid » Mon Oct 1, 2018 2:44 pm

I love how this "Rodgers Frustrated With Offense" storyline continues to pop up every year. Mike McCarthy is the luckiest man in the NFL.
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Post#310 » by M-C-G » Mon Oct 1, 2018 4:08 pm

I think there isn't really an excuse for us to have an 'average' offense. We have playmaking talent at WR, RB, TE, QB, like very good talent. I'm certain the offense would be better with a healthier Aaron Rodgers, but I don't think that is a valid excuse as to why we look so average.

So it is either execution, which is surely a part or play calling, which I believe is surely a part. As far as I am concerned, and I have been a pretty big Mac supporter for the most part, making a head coaching change is the easiest change to make if we don't win it this year. Mac has had many years now with pretty elite QB play and now this year it looks like at worst we will have an average defense. We have vets, we have talent, there are no more excuses as far as I am concerned.
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Post#311 » by Balls2TheWalls » Mon Oct 1, 2018 6:20 pm

Yesterday is, easily, the worst game to complain about MM playcalling. The other games all had major playcalling issues. Yesterday did not. Give McCarthy credit when he does his job well, and bash him when he doesn't. The offense has to execute. Rodgers has to be willing to take checkdowns to extend drives, he has to throw accurate balls (I think he had 3 garbage balls that ended drives), and the receivers need to catch balls that hit them in the hands. McCarthy finally used big run plays to set up play action, didn't get caught up in making our personnel make our play calling obvious, and found ways to make the Bills incapable of zoning in on any particular play (until it was obvious we were just running to kill the clock late in the 4th quarter -- note that we usually do this in the 3rd quarter and didnt this week). The only complaint I had about our offensive work is that he kept putting Montgomery and Williams on the field when Jones had something like 7 yards a touch.
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Post#312 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Oct 1, 2018 6:34 pm

Yeah, I'm still firmly a Jamal Williams backer cuz he does so many things that casual fans don't see in the box score, but only 11 touches for Jones, especially when he was carving up the defense while Rodgers was a bit off, is pretty inexcusable.
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Post#313 » by Rockmaninoff » Mon Oct 1, 2018 7:17 pm

Jamaal Williams is basically a fullback. Makes it easy to understand McCarthy's obsession.
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Post#314 » by BJ Sandered » Mon Oct 1, 2018 10:47 pm

He didn't call as bad a game as against the Redskins, but like others have said, not playing Aaron Jones more when he was kicking ass again was absolutely ridiculous especially since was Aaron was making some bad throws. Big Mac also wasted timeouts again, that one in the first 6 minutes of the game or so, which lo and behold amounted to nothing, was infuriating.
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Re: GT: Bills at Packers - Noon - CBS 

Post#315 » by M-C-G » Mon Oct 1, 2018 11:15 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:Yesterday is, easily, the worst game to complain about MM playcalling. The other games all had major playcalling issues. Yesterday did not. Give McCarthy credit when he does his job well, and bash him when he doesn't. The offense has to execute. Rodgers has to be willing to take checkdowns to extend drives, he has to throw accurate balls (I think he had 3 garbage balls that ended drives), and the receivers need to catch balls that hit them in the hands. McCarthy finally used big run plays to set up play action, didn't get caught up in making our personnel make our play calling obvious, and found ways to make the Bills incapable of zoning in on any particular play (until it was obvious we were just running to kill the clock late in the 4th quarter -- note that we usually do this in the 3rd quarter and didnt this week). The only complaint I had about our offensive work is that he kept putting Montgomery and Williams on the field when Jones had something like 7 yards a touch.


I don't think you were directly replying to me, because I was explicit about execution and playcalling being factors...that said, I just don't think we are very imaginative on offense and that bothers me. We used to preach YAC and now we just so rarely put players in any kind of YAC position...just my two cents.
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Re: GT: Bills at Packers - Noon - CBS 

Post#316 » by HKPackFan » Tue Oct 2, 2018 3:30 am

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/09/30/aaron-rodgers-packers-playcalling-offense-comments-week-4/

We've heard this before...Rodgers unhappy with the playcalling. But this is the first time I've heard him say it during a W....
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