OT: Twitter Thread on 3 Decades of Russian & Mafia Relationships with Trump

[thebuzzardman]

An even better read, if you have the time. Sort of outlines what is at stake. Makes for better reading if you believe humans are human and aren't as sold on "American Exceptionalism", or you are, but take it to mean the better angels of our nature but are realistic in acknowledging we could be prone to what any other people and democracy could be:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/poland-polarization/568324/

Btw, while I think there is a ton, and I mean a ton of good observations in there, I acknowledge the piece is written in a way that wants to tie the rise of European nationalism with Trump and American nationalism. And while I think there are DEFINITE parallels, it's obviously written in a way to highlight/steer the article that way. It's an article after all, not a book.

[HarthorneWingo]

This is article details many of the ways "Judge" Kavanaugh lied in his testimony and why he shouldn't be a judge any longer.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

[CharlesOakley]

Kavanaugh showed his true colors. He is completely compromised and partisan. He accused the Clintons for plotting against him for ****'s sake. Even if the FBI finds no dirt on him (which won't happen), he has already disqualified himself by lying through his entire testimony.

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

Kavanaugh showed his true colors. He is completely compromised and partisan. He accused the Clintons for plotting against him for ****'s sake. Even if the FBI finds no dirt on him (which won't happen), he has already disqualified himself by lying through his entire testimony.

I'm surprised this hasn't been more of a talking point. We've known for years that Kavanaugh is a partisan hack, who is now being rewarded for his years of service as a republican operative (Starr investigation, Florida recount, etc). In his initial hearings, he attempted to present himself as someone who could be neutral and impartial, able to "call balls and strikes" independently from partisan political influences. All of that went out the window during his angry tirade on Thursday. It's impossible to believe that he would be able to call balls and strikes after he's so blatantly told us which team he's playing for.

[HarthorneWingo]

Kavanaugh showed his true colors. He is completely compromised and partisan. He accused the Clintons for plotting against him for ****'s sake. Even if the FBI finds no dirt on him (which won't happen), he has already disqualified himself by lying through his entire testimony.

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[GONYK]

Kavanaugh showed his true colors. He is completely compromised and partisan. He accused the Clintons for plotting against him for ****'s sake. Even if the FBI finds no dirt on him (which won't happen), he has already disqualified himself by lying through his entire testimony.

Exactly


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I think the R's will still confirm him.

I'm interested in what the ramifications of that will be

[CharlesOakley]

Kavanaugh showed his true colors. He is completely compromised and partisan. He accused the Clintons for plotting against him for ****'s sake. Even if the FBI finds no dirt on him (which won't happen), he has already disqualified himself by lying through his entire testimony.

Exactly


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I think the R's will still confirm him.

I'm interested in what the ramifications of that will be

I no longer believe there is a line the GOP won't cross. We've seen children locked in kennels. With the right leadership, the GOP would gladly build concentration camps as long as they were paid for with tax cuts.

[Clyde_Style]

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I think the R's will still confirm him.

I'm interested in what the ramifications of that will be

I no longer believe there is a line the GOP won't cross. We've seen children locked in kennels. With the right leadership, the GOP would gladly build concentration camps as long as they were paid for with tax cuts.

Confirming him would hasten the GOP's demise as a party capable of winning future elections IMO. Their power play under Trump was to circumvent the growth in multi-cultural American demographics to hold power for another generation before they slip into irrelevancy.

Pissing off two-thirds of the women in this country is not the same as oppressing immigrants any longer. MeToo is not a fad; it's a historical phenomenon and they are spitting in the wind now with Kavanaugh. It's a fast ticket to much more rapid obsolescence than the idea that long-term demographics will erase the false advantages of gerrymandering, voter suppression tactics and playing with Russian hackers.

A confirmed Kavanaugh would go on trial for rape, get convicted, be removed from SCOTUS, disbarred and sent to a jail cell.

All of the whiney BS we had to put up with the past 2.5 years from Trumpers who would snivel and cry when the word Nazi or fascist was invoked is now in full perspective for what these people truly are. They are in this strictly for power and wealth accumulation and they will not stop at anything. That's the definition of evil the last time I checked. And that's why it is so rich when MF'ers like Graham and McConnell wail about the unfairness of this all. These bullies turn incredibly pathetic the second the tables are turned on them. No mercy any longer.

[GONYK]

I think the R's will still confirm him.

I'm interested in what the ramifications of that will be

I no longer believe there is a line the GOP won't cross. We've seen children locked in kennels. With the right leadership, the GOP would gladly build concentration camps as long as they were paid for with tax cuts.

Confirming him would hasten the GOP's demise as a party capable of winning future elections IMO. Their power play under Trump was to circumvent the growth in multi-cultural American demographics to hold power for another generation before they slip into irrelevancy.

Pissing off two-thirds of the women in this country is not the same as oppressing immigrants any longer. MeToo is not a fad; it's a historical phenomenon and they are spitting in the wind now with Kavanaugh. It's a fast ticket to much more rapid obsolescence than the idea that long-term demographics will erase the false advantages of gerrymandering, voter suppression tactics and playing with Russian hackers.

A confirmed Kavanaugh would go on trial for rape, get convicted, be removed from SCOTUS, disbarred and sent to a jail cell.

All of the whiney BS we had to put up with the past 2.5 years from Trumpers who would snivel and cry when the word Nazi or fascist was invoked is now in full perspective for what these people truly are. They are in this strictly for power and wealth accumulation and they will not stop at anything. That's the definition of evil the last time I checked. And that's why it is so rich when MF'ers like Graham and McConnell wail about the unfairness of this all. These bullies turn incredibly pathetic the second the tables are turned on them. No mercy any longer.

Based on what?

If the FBI clears him to a degree that the Senate is comfortable confirming him, I don't see the avenue where that outcome is likely.

Are you anticipating some bombshell to come out after all of this?

[j4remi]

Based on what?

If the FBI clears him to a degree that the Senate is comfortable confirming him, I don't see the avenue where that outcome is likely.

Are you anticipating some bombshell to come out after all of this?

The FBI investigation has been limited by the white house to just 4 people. That means Ramirez gets an interview but no one who could corroborate her claims. The man that they tried to pin the assault on, whom Kavanaugh named as a friend and whom Ford mentioned introduced the two (Squi was his nickname) is not included. It's the one friend with health issues which were limiting her ability to be involved (but who did say she believes Ford); Judge, the PJ cat and Ramirez; but the last I heard, that's all. Not even able to confirm when Judge worked at the grocery store which would help create a timeline.

So that's not to say there's a bombshell somewhere, but if there is one; the FBI isn't very likely to uncover it due to the extreme limitations that were placed on them. It's just cover to pass him.

[Clyde_Style]

Based on what?

If the FBI clears him to a degree that the Senate is comfortable confirming him, I don't see the avenue where that outcome is likely.

Are you anticipating some bombshell to come out after all of this?

The FBI investigation has been limited by the white house to just 4 people. That means Ramirez gets an interview but no one who could corroborate her claims. The man that they tried to pin the assault on, whom Kavanaugh named as a friend and whom Ford mentioned introduced the two (Squi was his nickname) is not included. It's the one friend with health issues which were limiting her ability to be involved (but who did say she believes Ford); Judge, the PJ cat and Ramirez; but the last I heard, that's all. Not even able to confirm when Judge worked at the grocery store which would help create a timeline.

So that's not to say there's a bombshell somewhere, but if there is one; the FBI isn't very likely to uncover it due to the extreme limitations that were placed on them. It's just cover to pass him.

That's no longer true. Trump tweeted they can investigate anyone they want.

[HarthorneWingo]

Based on what?

If the FBI clears him to a degree that the Senate is comfortable confirming him, I don't see the avenue where that outcome is likely.

Are you anticipating some bombshell to come out after all of this?

The FBI investigation has been limited by the white house to just 4 people. That means Ramirez gets an interview but no one who could corroborate her claims. The man that they tried to pin the assault on, whom Kavanaugh named as a friend and whom Ford mentioned introduced the two (Squi was his nickname) is not included. It's the one friend with health issues which were limiting her ability to be involved (but who did say she believes Ford); Judge, the PJ cat and Ramirez; but the last I heard, that's all. Not even able to confirm when Judge worked at the grocery store which would help create a timeline.

So that's not to say there's a bombshell somewhere, but if there is one; the FBI isn't very likely to uncover it due to the extreme limitations that were placed on them. It's just cover to pass him.

That's no longer true. Trump tweeted they can investigate anyone they want.

Until he changes his mind again

[Clyde_Style]

The FBI investigation has been limited by the white house to just 4 people. That means Ramirez gets an interview but no one who could corroborate her claims. The man that they tried to pin the assault on, whom Kavanaugh named as a friend and whom Ford mentioned introduced the two (Squi was his nickname) is not included. It's the one friend with health issues which were limiting her ability to be involved (but who did say she believes Ford); Judge, the PJ cat and Ramirez; but the last I heard, that's all. Not even able to confirm when Judge worked at the grocery store which would help create a timeline.

So that's not to say there's a bombshell somewhere, but if there is one; the FBI isn't very likely to uncover it due to the extreme limitations that were placed on them. It's just cover to pass him.

That's no longer true. Trump tweeted they can investigate anyone they want.

Until he changes his mind again

He did. I don't have time. Go look it up.

Oh, I see you changed your post. He tweeted it. It is binding. There are no longer any constraints. As soon as he did the FBI went to Swetnick. They will dig wherever they want to now.

[Clyde_Style]

I no longer believe there is a line the GOP won't cross. We've seen children locked in kennels. With the right leadership, the GOP would gladly build concentration camps as long as they were paid for with tax cuts.

Confirming him would hasten the GOP's demise as a party capable of winning future elections IMO. Their power play under Trump was to circumvent the growth in multi-cultural American demographics to hold power for another generation before they slip into irrelevancy.

Pissing off two-thirds of the women in this country is not the same as oppressing immigrants any longer. MeToo is not a fad; it's a historical phenomenon and they are spitting in the wind now with Kavanaugh. It's a fast ticket to much more rapid obsolescence than the idea that long-term demographics will erase the false advantages of gerrymandering, voter suppression tactics and playing with Russian hackers.

A confirmed Kavanaugh would go on trial for rape, get convicted, be removed from SCOTUS, disbarred and sent to a jail cell.

All of the whiney BS we had to put up with the past 2.5 years from Trumpers who would snivel and cry when the word Nazi or fascist was invoked is now in full perspective for what these people truly are. They are in this strictly for power and wealth accumulation and they will not stop at anything. That's the definition of evil the last time I checked. And that's why it is so rich when MF'ers like Graham and McConnell wail about the unfairness of this all. These bullies turn incredibly pathetic the second the tables are turned on them. No mercy any longer.

Based on what?

If the FBI clears him to a degree that the Senate is comfortable confirming him, I don't see the avenue where that outcome is likely.

Are you anticipating some bombshell to come out after all of this?

There is a new accusation that is presently anonymous, but could be unmasked, that Kav and a buddy raped a girl repeatedly in the back of a car. She said he forced her to do fellatio and came in her mouth, then both raped her.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36529/released-transcript-kavanaugh-asked-about-amanda-prestigiacomo

The Senate already knew this. We'll see how comfortable they are with this kind of stuff by the time the FBI is done and more rape or abuse accusations surface.

I have no idea why you think it is likely they confirm, though they are an evil bunch so I wouldn't rule it out.

[HarthorneWingo]

That's no longer true. Trump tweeted they can investigate anyone they want.

Until he changes his mind again

He did. I don't have time. Go look it up.

Oh, I see you changed your post. He tweeted it. It is binding. There are no longer any constraints. As soon as he did the FBI went to Swetnick. They will dig wherever they want to now.

p.s. sorry for the bait and switch lol

[Clyde_Style]

New report of Kavanaugh drunkenly assaulting a bar patron and starting a brawl. There is a New Haven police report of the incident. Witnesses have spoken to the FBI and spoken on TV.

I don't understand how anyone can see him getting off scot free now. He would have waltzed along having been a mean drunk and a rapist his whole life and remained shielded by the old boy network, but in today's climate there is no way a man like this can subject himself to this kind of scrutiny and expect not to be indicted.

Confirming him now would be one of the worst mistakes in the history of politics and the price the GOP would pay down the line would be severe. I'm sure there are many within GOP ranks clamoring for Kavanaugh to step down in the next 48 hours.

Whatever happens, I would bet on Kavanaugh facing one or more rape trials in the future.

[GONYK]

Confirming him would hasten the GOP's demise as a party capable of winning future elections IMO. Their power play under Trump was to circumvent the growth in multi-cultural American demographics to hold power for another generation before they slip into irrelevancy.

Pissing off two-thirds of the women in this country is not the same as oppressing immigrants any longer. MeToo is not a fad; it's a historical phenomenon and they are spitting in the wind now with Kavanaugh. It's a fast ticket to much more rapid obsolescence than the idea that long-term demographics will erase the false advantages of gerrymandering, voter suppression tactics and playing with Russian hackers.

A confirmed Kavanaugh would go on trial for rape, get convicted, be removed from SCOTUS, disbarred and sent to a jail cell.

All of the whiney BS we had to put up with the past 2.5 years from Trumpers who would snivel and cry when the word Nazi or fascist was invoked is now in full perspective for what these people truly are. They are in this strictly for power and wealth accumulation and they will not stop at anything. That's the definition of evil the last time I checked. And that's why it is so rich when MF'ers like Graham and McConnell wail about the unfairness of this all. These bullies turn incredibly pathetic the second the tables are turned on them. No mercy any longer.

Based on what?

If the FBI clears him to a degree that the Senate is comfortable confirming him, I don't see the avenue where that outcome is likely.

Are you anticipating some bombshell to come out after all of this?

There is a new accusation that is presently anonymous, but could be unmasked, that Kav and a buddy raped a girl repeatedly in the back of a car. She said he forced her to do fellatio and came in her mouth, then both raped her.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36529/released-transcript-kavanaugh-asked-about-amanda-prestigiacomo

The Senate already knew this. We'll see how comfortable they are with this kind of stuff by the time the FBI is done and more rape or abuse accusations surface.

I have no idea why you think it is likely they confirm, though they are an evil bunch so I wouldn't rule it out.

I think, given the current state of play, they are likely to confirm for 2 reasons:

1. None of the accusations have been corroborated in any way that is damning or prosecutable, and the R's see this as a war to maintain due process and precedence.

2. They know that if they don't get a judge in by mid-terms and the Dems take the House and possibly a few seats in the Senate, then they might not get another chance before the next Presidential election.

So unless something major comes out that really sticks, I see them ramming Kav through. I also think conservative Dems like Manchin will help them. The bar fight is an interesting development though. Speaks to temperament.

[HarthorneWingo]

New report of Kavanaugh drunkenly assaulting a bar patron and starting a brawl. There is a New Haven police report of the incident. Witnesses have spoken to the FBI and spoken on TV.

I don't understand how anyone can see him getting off scot free now. He would have waltzed along having been a mean drunk and a rapist his whole life and remained shielded by the old boy network, but in today's climate there is no way a man like this can subject himself to this kind of scrutiny and expect not to be indicted.

Confirming him now would be one of the worst mistakes in the history of politics and the price the GOP would pay down the line would be severe. I'm sure there are many within GOP ranks clamoring for Kavanaugh to step down in the next 48 hours.

Whatever happens, I would bet on Kavanaugh facing one or more rape trials in the future.

The problem is that these people are going to the press because the FBI is not taking their calls. Some have hired lawyers because they can't get through. That's the reason why they're going to the press. Can't make this shyt up.

[thebuzzardman]

That's no longer true. Trump tweeted they can investigate anyone they want.

Until he changes his mind again

He did. I don't have time. Go look it up.

Oh, I see you changed your post. He tweeted it. It is binding. There are no longer any constraints. As soon as he did the FBI went to Swetnick. They will dig wherever they want to now.

Serious question, - for anyone. Because it's Trump.

Did he really intend for the investigation to be open, or was it one of his dumb tweets that inadvertently opened the door?

[thebuzzardman]

Apparently when they say "This will go down on your permanent record", "they" weren't f*cking around.

Watch on YouTube

@1:05

I mean, it was a thing, everyone made jokes about it. Punk/pop bands put it in songs.

Though in fairness, frat bro Kavanaugh probably didn't have The Violent Femmes on his mixtapes.

Or, more likely, people from that social strata not that concerned with a permanent record, as those things get "taken care of"