Refs new "freedom of movement" rule bans defenders from grabbing off ball cutters like Curry and Klay!!!

[Antinomy]

What the hell are you talking? Basketball is not a contact sport. Holding, tugging and mugging people off-ball just because you can't keep up with them isn't basketball. In any sense.

Lmao. Basketball isn’t a contact sport?

Dude I’m not even gonna dignify that with a response. Just silly, similar to most of your posts.

The Warriors have probably gotten away with the most off-ball fouls, defensively & offensively, in the entire league over the past couple years. Especially with these small ball lineups they would throw out there.

Again, depends on your definition of 'contact sport'. If contact sport means that defenders should be allowed to mug, pull and hold off-ball players, then no, that isn't basketball. You can find any goon off the street to do that for you.

“Contact” meaning you should be allowed to touch someone without it being an infraction.

First you couldn’t touch them with the ball, now you can’t touch them without the ball. All while the offense is given free reign & allowed to basically do anything besides charge right through you.

The defenses are going to start being 3 steps behind now. I can only imagine what’s gonna happen next.

[E-Balla]

Average ppg about to be 110. So I can't get around the screen because it's a moving screen, I can't go over the screen on ball because that's a shooting foul, and I can't grab players off ball to get around the 5 moving screens I have to navigate?

The NBA is trash.

[Black Mage]

The Sixers should have this quote on the jumbrotron in the playoffs cause JJ gonna eat if opponents can't grab him.

Does this new rule mean Marcus Smart is now a hasbin?

[E-Balla]

My guess is that they want the game to be more aesthetically pleasing. The trend to switching defenses is making the game uglier. They probably wan't to stop that trend and think this will help.

My guess: It only causes the game to get uglier as it's just more FTs and not much else.

How will this stop switching? Getting more people the ball wide open already? I mean, sure, but it'd be easier to... I don't know... Call a damn moving screen?

[Sixerscan]

Lmao. Basketball isn’t a contact sport?

Dude I’m not even gonna dignify that with a response. Just silly, similar to most of your posts.

The Warriors have probably gotten away with the most off-ball fouls, defensively & offensively, in the entire league over the past couple years. Especially with these small ball lineups they would throw out there.

Again, depends on your definition of 'contact sport'. If contact sport means that defenders should be allowed to mug, pull and hold off-ball players, then no, that isn't basketball. You can find any goon off the street to do that for you.

“Contact” meaning you should be allowed to touch someone without it being an infraction.

First you couldn’t touch them with the ball, now you can’t touch them without the ball. All while the offense is given free reign & allowed to basically do anything besides charge right through you.

The defenses are going to start being 3 steps behind now. I can only imagine what’s gonna happen next.

You can touch, you can't hold. Offensive player can't hold, push ect.

These rules are all cutting out lazy defense. Guys that are in position and move their feet will be fine.

[Sixerscan]

My guess is that they want the game to be more aesthetically pleasing. The trend to switching defenses is making the game uglier. They probably wan't to stop that trend and think this will help.

My guess: It only causes the game to get uglier as it's just more FTs and not much else.

How will this stop switching? Getting more people the ball wide open already? I mean, sure, but it'd be easier to... I don't know... Call a damn moving screen?

Agreed that calling moving screens should also be a point of emphasis.

[Drakeem]

As everyone has already said, this is just enforcing the notion that the offensive player will always have the advantage over the defensive player in their individual match ups. It's okay to police certain things like this, but then we have to look at illegal screens, travels, use of the off-arm, various type of rip-through moves, the concept of a blocking/charging foul, getting your defender to jump straight into the air, throwing yourself 3 feet into them, and somehow going to the line, among some of the other explainable things in the NBA.

Keep it consistent.

[An Unbiased Fan]

NBA is such a joke now

[mtron929]

One thing that might happen is that couple of (smart) teams will still grab off ball cutters on pretty every play. The idea is that the refs will not call fouls on every one of them and they won't foul out all the players. As such, what will inevitably happen is that there will be two different standards on teams/players who commit a lot of these fouls versus those that don't. And the ones who commit more fouls will get away with more because they will be judged on their own different standards. It's the KG moving screen motto. Do it every time and get away with more.

[Johnny Bball]

So many of these examples the offensive player is also pushing off or at times initiating it. They said they wall cal offensive players for clamping, down and holding, dislodging players but nothing about pushing off. It doesn't take much of a push off for an offensive player to get to his spot or get his shot off. And they haven't focused on pushing off with this.

This isn't going to end well and its going to result in offensive players pushing off all the time, or defensive players will have to flop and appear "dislodged" or it won't be called. So everyone is going to play like James now? I really hate rules like this that make the offense easier and defense near impossible.

This is a whole lot better for teams that are 12 players deep btw, and it probably should have been a slower change than it was.

[Clemenza]

League is finally gaining a little traction on the NFL but now with these rules they want to become just like it.. Way too many fouls called in these preseason games. SMH

Haha traction on the NFL? Not in the US. NFL earns about 3 times more revenue than the NBA with way less games and its just really popular in the US.

NFL is just built better because of competition and balance in the league(due to a hard cap and no max contracts)

I said "little traction" if you read correctly.. Yes the NFL is the biggest money maker league wise but it isn't sh*t outside of North America where its all about soccer first and baseball second.

[Hobo4President]

There's nothing wrong with this change but if they don't also start calling moving screens the number of 3s are gonna spike hard this year.

I’m just saying, it seems like every year they create another rule to curtail defenses.

Then they allow offenses to get away with blatant moving screens, travels, carrying, double-dribbles, 3/4 step gathers, hooking, jumping into defenders to draw fouls, grabbing arms around screens (Harden/Lou Will move), rip thru moves (the defender has his hands STATIONARY & the offense SWINGS his arms into the defender), not allowing off-ball fouls on bad FT shooters, etc...

You’re not allowed to play defense UNLESS you’re guarding a big man, in which case, you’re allowed to maul them around the basket.

This is my biggest problem with the NBA now. It seems they do everything they can to make the game unbalanced in the favour of offense. If they called things fairly on both ends it wouldn't be an issue.

[Luigi]

There's nothing wrong with this change but if they don't also start calling moving screens the number of 3s are gonna spike hard this year.

I’m just saying, it seems like every year they create another rule to curtail defenses.

Then they allow offenses to get away with blatant moving screens, travels, carrying, double-dribbles, 3/4 step gathers, hooking, jumping into defenders to draw fouls, grabbing arms around screens (Harden/Lou Will move), rip thru moves (the defender has his hands STATIONARY & the offense SWINGS his arms into the defender), not allowing off-ball fouls on bad FT shooters, etc...

You’re not allowed to play defense UNLESS you’re guarding a big man, in which case, you’re allowed to maul them around the basket.

This is my biggest problem with the NBA now. It seems they do everything they can to make the game unbalanced in the favour of offense. If they called things fairly on both ends it wouldn't be an issue.

It will eventually backfire on them. The game is going to suffer for it, and so will long term fan interest.

[jazzfan1971]

My guess is that they want the game to be more aesthetically pleasing. The trend to switching defenses is making the game uglier. They probably wan't to stop that trend and think this will help.

My guess: It only causes the game to get uglier as it's just more FTs and not much else.

How will this stop switching? Getting more people the ball wide open already? I mean, sure, but it'd be easier to... I don't know... Call a damn moving screen?

I was thinking of the Jazz vs. Houston in the playoffs last year. Houston switches. Jazz responded by having Gobert dive to the rim. Houston responded to that by having Capela put a bear hug on Gobert as he tried to roll.

So, you call that foul on Capela for impeding Gobert you help the Jazz combat Houston's switching.

[HollowEarth]

As is for every single rule already in the rule book.

Just one more step to the one dimensional league. And a pretty big one, too.

You're right, we should definitely allow plays to get mugged, hand-checked and clotheslined. That's REAL basketball.

I want them to have nets and tridents.

These guys today wouldn't last five minutes in the Colosseum in Rome.

[Johnny Bball]

What I get out of this thread... poor GSW. They have it so rough.

[letskissbro]

Not surprised that Golden State fans are literally the only ones overwhelmingly in favor of this change

[Jordans_Rose]

And this is why I consider the 80s and 90s the golden age of NBA basketball. If Michael Jordan played today as a 25-year-old he would average 50 pts per game.

[CptCrunch]

Are the Warriors exempt from this new rule? They were exempt under most rules the past few seasons. 90% of the Warriors screens are illegal since the Bogut days by the way.

[whatisacenter]

Where’s the fun in having the most stacked team if you’re not allowed freedom of movement? And wait till you see Damion Jones’ moving screens, he’s been practicing in the G league.