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Clippers trade Johnson to Pelicans; Waive Evans

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Who will be waived, bought out or traded before the regular season begins?

Poll ended at Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:14 am

Patrick Beverley: 1 year - $5M (Unguaranteed)
0
No votes
Jawun Evans: 2 years - $1.4M (2nd year Team Option)
14
48%
Wesley Johnson: 1 year - $6.1M
9
31%
Boban Marjanovic: 1 year - $7M
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No votes
Luc Mbah A Moute: 1 year - $4.3M
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3%
Mike Scott: 1 year - $4.3M
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No votes
Milos Teodosic: 1 year - $6.3M
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7%
Sindairus Thornwell: 2 years - $1.4M (2nd year Unguaranteed)
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10%
Tyrone Wallace: 2 years - $1.4M ($300K Guaranteed)
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No votes
Other (Please Specify)
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No votes
 
Total votes: 29

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Clippers trade Johnson to Pelicans; Waive Evans 

Post#1 » by mkwest » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:14 am

The Clippers have 17 players on the roster and must get it down to 15 before the season begins. Over the next few days the Clippers will be parting with a couple of players one way or another. Currently, the only players that are not fully guaranteed for the season are Patrick Beverley (unguaranteed until 1/10/19) and Ty Wallace ($300K guarantee until 1/10/19).

The following cannot be traded before the season begins:

December 15th Trade Restriction
Luc Mbah A Moute
Mike Scott
Ty Wallace

January 15th Trade Restriction
Avery Bradley
Montrezl Harrell

The Clippers have been mentioned in having an interest in Jimmy Butler, but little traction if any has been made. The Suns are in need of a veteran point guard and have expressed interest in Patrick Beverley. However, Beverley is held in high regard by the FO and would need an enticing incentive to part with him. San Antonio may be looking for some help at the 1 with the loss of Dejounte Murray for the season. Maybe they would have an interest in Teodosic...?
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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#3 » by esqtvd » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:54 am

I'm SO ready to part with WeJo but we are SO screwed at SF if anything happens to Tobias or Luc.
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Getting to the Bottom Line 

Post#4 » by Ranma » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:30 pm

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More Cannon Fodder? 

Post#5 » by Ranma » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:18 pm

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Re: More Cannon Fodder? 

Post#6 » by esqtvd » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:43 pm

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Hm.

The Clips are not stuck with Angel Delgado's two-way contract. He did nothing for me in Summer League--he's got short arms, no speed, and no hops. With his running buddy Desi Rodriguez already waived, maybe 6'7" swingman Artis gets his slot.

Decent at Pitt and G-League last year, and 6'7" swingmen don't grow on trees. Slow-footed six-tenners do.


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Flom's Preference 

Post#7 » by Ranma » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:01 pm

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Doc vs. Rookies: Preview 

Post#8 » by Wammy Giveaway » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:17 pm

For the past couple of days, I've been working on a chart that will try to prove if Doc is adverse to playing rookies for fear of losing games and being called a lottery team as a result. I've done research on the rookies that are currently on the bubble, and have found the following:

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Columns: Player Name, Year Debut, Placement, Team, General Manager of Team, Years, Total Minutes Played, Highest Minutes Played, Minutes Per Game, Difference Rating in X games and Record for 10 minutes+ and 20 minutes+, Notes

Still fine-tuning the details, but given Thornwell's and Evan's bubble status, this might be of importance.
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Re: Doc vs. Rookies: Preview 

Post#9 » by esqtvd » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:56 pm

Wammy Giveaway wrote:For the past couple of days, I've been working on a chart that will try to prove if Doc is adverse to playing rookies for fear of losing games and being called a lottery team as a result. I've done research on the rookies that are currently on the bubble, and have found the following:

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Columns: Player Name, Year Debut, Placement, Team, General Manager of Team, Years, Total Minutes Played, Highest Minutes Played, Minutes Per Game, Difference Rating in X games and Record for 10 minutes+ and 20 minutes+, Notes

Still fine-tuning the details, but given Thornwell's and Evan's bubble status, this might be of importance.



Doc won't give ANYBODY, rook or vet, minutes they don't earn. Doc Rivers don't do no farm teams.

Maybe that's bad now that the Big 3 are history, and our future isn't now, it's later. But that's Doc. He would say you don't learn ANYTHING by playing bad basketball. You only learn by playing your best WITH the best.

Doc played Rondo 32 mpg in the playoffs and won a title. I expect Shai to get as many minutes as he can eat. As for the rest, they're going to have to beat out Avery and Pat Bev for their PT, and don't be surprised if Ty Wallace gets more minutes than some others. That's how Doc rolls.
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43 Hours and Counting 

Post#10 » by Ranma » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:14 am

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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#12 » by og15 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:55 pm

esqtvd wrote:I'm SO ready to part with WeJo but we are SO screwed at SF if anything happens to Tobias or Luc.
Gallo can move up to SF, him and Harris basically play interchangeably anyways. Scott get's more minutes and Harrell more time at PF, and we'll just run some of the guards at backup "SF" with three guard lineups since the minutes are needed anyways. Should be okay.

My aversion to cutting Wes is that, yes, he doesn't have a role on this team anymore, but he can still help a good team as a backup 3/4 (5 is if is Houston :lol: ), just to fill up some minutes. Milos, similarly can still help a team as solid enough backup PG. Evans would find it much harder to do so.

Either the team had no suitors or they wanted to wait till training camp to evaluate guys, but they should have set up a trade earlier, but opposing teams were maybe also thinking "why trade for a player when we know they have to cut some guys". Who knows, guess we'll see..
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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#13 » by esqtvd » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:14 pm

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esqtvd wrote:I'm SO ready to part with WeJo but we are SO screwed at SF if anything happens to Tobias or Luc.
Gallo can move up to SF, him and Harris basically play interchangeably anyways. Scott get's more minutes and Harrell more time at PF, and we'll just run some of the guards at backup "SF" with three guard lineups since the minutes are needed anyways. Should be okay.

My aversion to cutting Wes is that, yes, he doesn't have a role on this team anymore, but he can still help a good team as a backup 3/4 (5 is if is Houston :lol: ), just to fill up some minutes.


Gallo and the other PFs can't guard 3s. And I hate starting Sindarius or Ty, at only 6'5. We're already undersized with Beverly and Lou at 6' and Avery at 6'2". Shai is 6'6", but he'll have enough trouble with Klay Thompson, let alone Durant.

Luc is the only true 3; Tobias is more a 4 but Gallo can't play the 3 anymore. If something happens to either one, we're in deep doo-doo. That's what your 11th-15th men are for, to be strategic reserves.
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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#14 » by og15 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:21 pm

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esqtvd wrote:I'm SO ready to part with WeJo but we are SO screwed at SF if anything happens to Tobias or Luc.
Gallo can move up to SF, him and Harris basically play interchangeably anyways. Scott get's more minutes and Harrell more time at PF, and we'll just run some of the guards at backup "SF" with three guard lineups since the minutes are needed anyways. Should be okay.

My aversion to cutting Wes is that, yes, he doesn't have a role on this team anymore, but he can still help a good team as a backup 3/4 (5 is if is Houston ), just to fill up some minutes.


Gallo and the other PFs can't guard 3s. And I hate starting Sindarius or Ty, at only 6'5. We're already undersized with Beverly and Lou at 6' and Avery at 6'2". Shai is 6'6", but he'll have enough trouble with Klay Thompson, let alone Durant.

Luc is the only true 3; Tobias is more a 4 but Gallo can't play the 3 anymore. If something happens to either one, we're in deep doo-doo. That's what your 11th-15th men are for, to be strategic reserves.
We would likely see three guard lineups anyways, so whatever, team will survive.

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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#15 » by esqtvd » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:36 pm

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og15 wrote:Gallo can move up to SF, him and Harris basically play interchangeably anyways. Scott get's more minutes and Harrell more time at PF, and we'll just run some of the guards at backup "SF" with three guard lineups since the minutes are needed anyways. Should be okay.

My aversion to cutting Wes is that, yes, he doesn't have a role on this team anymore, but he can still help a good team as a backup 3/4 (5 is if is Houston ), just to fill up some minutes.


Gallo and the other PFs can't guard 3s. And I hate starting Sindarius or Ty, at only 6'5. We're already undersized with Beverly and Lou at 6' and Avery at 6'2". Shai is 6'6", but he'll have enough trouble with Klay Thompson, let alone Durant.

Luc is the only true 3; Tobias is more a 4 but Gallo can't play the 3 anymore. If something happens to either one, we're in deep doo-doo. That's what your 11th-15th men are for, to be strategic reserves.
We would likely see three guard lineups anyways, so whatever, team will survive.

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I'd rather have WeJo at the 3 than Sindarius or Ty.
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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#16 » by og15 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:37 pm

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Gallo and the other PFs can't guard 3s. And I hate starting Sindarius or Ty, at only 6'5. We're already undersized with Beverly and Lou at 6' and Avery at 6'2". Shai is 6'6", but he'll have enough trouble with Klay Thompson, let alone Durant.

Luc is the only true 3; Tobias is more a 4 but Gallo can't play the 3 anymore. If something happens to either one, we're in deep doo-doo. That's what your 11th-15th men are for, to be strategic reserves.
We would likely see three guard lineups anyways, so whatever, team will survive.

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I'd rather have WeJo at the 3 than Sindarius or Ty.
Might be none of the above lol

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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#18 » by PerkinsFor3 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:54 am

Looks like the Clippers are cutting Jawun Evans. Could be a player Orlando, Phoenix or the Spurs take a look at, he's talented. Great at running the pick & roll, which could mean he's a fit in SA.

Also means no deal for a PG.
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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#19 » by esqtvd » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:39 am

PerkinsFor3 wrote:Looks like the Clippers are cutting Jawun Evans. Could be a player Orlando, Phoenix or the Spurs take a look at, he's talented. Great at running the pick & roll, which could mean he's a fit in SA.

Also means no deal for a PG.


A 6' PG who can't shoot? Hell, I'd rather have Yogi Ferrell and nobody wants him either.
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Re: Who will not make the opening night roster? 

Post#20 » by og15 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:13 pm

Jawun might get more of a look than Yogi because he is 3 years younger. Yogi is already 25, so that doesn't help him in the eyes of teams.

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