Miami Heat Pre Season Thread , let's end the madness once and for all

[Wiltside]

Think Butler was the same age as Rich is now when he became an allstar for the first time. Might as well see if he has it in him to do the same.

Butler should stay in Minny. Rich bout to take over.

It’s possible, but I don’t see Rich making that same leap. Well, not to the same extent.

17/3/3 or something? Yeah could see it. He delivered that at times last year. But I don’t see him taking over and delivering the 22/5/5 type line Butler does on a nightly basis.

You could argue that 17/3/3 on $10m per >>>> 22/5/5 on $30+m though.

I’d still roll the dice on Butler personally, but I can see the counter argument. Ideally you’d get him for Hassan and a 1st or some chit and pair them on the wing together for ultimate domination.

[HeatIn5]

Whiteside, weighters, and as many 2nd round picks as they want for butler.

Or else no deal. They can keep getting BLASTED like tonight

[DayofMourning]

Think Butler was the same age as Rich is now when he became an allstar for the first time. Might as well see if he has it in him to do the same.

Butler should stay in Minny. Rich bout to take over.

It’s possible, but I don’t see Rich making that same leap. Well, not to the same extent.

17/3/3 or something? Yeah could see it. He delivered that at times last year. But I don’t see him taking over and delivering the 22/5/5 type line Butler does on a nightly basis.

You could argue that 17/3/3 on $10m per >>>> 22/5/5 on $30+m though.

I’d still roll the dice on Butler personally, but I can see the counter argument. Ideally you’d get him for Hassan and a 1st or some chit and pair them on the wing together for ultimate domination.

Im being a bit hyperbolic, but I would like to see Rich find his spots and take that next step. Same with Winslow.

As for adding Butler at SG, Id like it more if we could get rid of Dion.

[KGdaBom]

Whiteside, weighters, and as many 2nd round picks as they want for butler.

Or else no deal. They can keep getting BLASTED like tonight

LMAO. If you are sending Whiteside and Waiters The Wolves would have to send you Gorgui back to make salaries work. Would be a beyond horrible trade for the Wolves unless there was a lot of second round picks. How many would it take. Your next 200 I would have to think about that. You did say as many as it takes.

[Hallstar]

Think Butler was the same age as Rich is now when he became an allstar for the first time. Might as well see if he has it in him to do the same.

Butler should stay in Minny. Rich bout to take over.

It’s possible, but I don’t see Rich making that same leap. Well, not to the same extent.

17/3/3 or something? Yeah could see it. He delivered that at times last year. But I don’t see him taking over and delivering the 22/5/5 type line Butler does on a nightly basis.

You could argue that 17/3/3 on $10m per >>>> 22/5/5 on $30+m though.

I’d still roll the dice on Butler personally, but I can see the counter argument. Ideally you’d get him for Hassan and a 1st or some chit and pair them on the wing together for ultimate domination.

Im being a bit hyperbolic, but I would like to see Rich find his spots and take that next step. Same with Winslow.

As for adding Butler at SG, Id like it more if we could get rid of Dion.

If we're still talking about finding spots that's not an allstar. Allstars are able to make something out of nothing

[Wiltside]

Think Butler was the same age as Rich is now when he became an allstar for the first time. Might as well see if he has it in him to do the same.

Butler should stay in Minny. Rich bout to take over.

It’s possible, but I don’t see Rich making that same leap. Well, not to the same extent.

17/3/3 or something? Yeah could see it. He delivered that at times last year. But I don’t see him taking over and delivering the 22/5/5 type line Butler does on a nightly basis.

You could argue that 17/3/3 on $10m per >>>> 22/5/5 on $30+m though.

I’d still roll the dice on Butler personally, but I can see the counter argument. Ideally you’d get him for Hassan and a 1st or some chit and pair them on the wing together for ultimate domination.

Im being a bit hyperbolic, but I would like to see Rich find his spots and take that next step. Same with Winslow.

As for adding Butler at SG, Id like it more if we could get rid of Dion.

Man, I’d legit cream myself if we got Butler while retaining all our young guys. Can you imagine a 4th quarter lineup of Winslow/Rich/Butler/JJ/Bam or KO? Would be super sick.

[gom]

Great win. Too bad Hassan was in foul trouble. 3 year extension means Richardson and Winslow negotiations are paired. It is a good deal... well good enough but he better play. I run the numbers later.

[KGdaBom]

Since it is very unlikely the Wolves will take Waiters in any deal just curious if you could get the deal done with Winslow or Olynyk along with Richardson Which of those would you be more willing to part with? I'm guessing Olynyk even though I consider him an easily better player than Winslow?

[ifrosty13]

Since it is very unlikely the Wolves will take Waiters in any deal just curious if you could get the deal done with Winslow or Olynyk along with Richardson Which of those would you be more willing to part with? I'm guessing Olynyk even though I consider him an easily better player than Winslow?

Winslow is impossible to trade right now because of the PPP with his extension, and with what's going on in Minnesota, no chance Miami gives more, if anything, they're offering less today after the past 48 hours.

[K4P]

Whiteside, weighters, and as many 2nd round picks as they want for butler.

Or else no deal. They can keep getting BLASTED like tonight

I agree completely. Dion Waiters will get us out of this mess!

[DayofMourning]

It’s possible, but I don’t see Rich making that same leap. Well, not to the same extent.

17/3/3 or something? Yeah could see it. He delivered that at times last year. But I don’t see him taking over and delivering the 22/5/5 type line Butler does on a nightly basis.

You could argue that 17/3/3 on $10m per >>>> 22/5/5 on $30+m though.

I’d still roll the dice on Butler personally, but I can see the counter argument. Ideally you’d get him for Hassan and a 1st or some chit and pair them on the wing together for ultimate domination.

Im being a bit hyperbolic, but I would like to see Rich find his spots and take that next step. Same with Winslow.

As for adding Butler at SG, Id like it more if we could get rid of Dion.

If we're still talking about finding spots that's not an allstar. Allstars are able to make something out of nothing

Ive said before that i think JRich is a capped out talent, and I dont think that is allstar level. I like Wiltsides stat projections well enough, but I think he will always be on the outside looking in.

I like his production potential combined with his salary well enough. Hes a good piece. We need a star though, for sure.

[HeatIn5]

Whiteside, weighters, and as many 2nd round picks as they want for butler.

Or else no deal. They can keep getting BLASTED like tonight

LMAO. If you are sending Whiteside and Waiters The Wolves would have to send you Gorgui back to make salaries work. Would be a beyond horrible trade for the Wolves unless there was a lot of second round picks. How many would it take. Your next 200 I would have to think about that. You did say as many as it takes.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yadkb9ry

we would definitely do this.

You guys need to just move on from jimmy. at this point theres no point for miami to give up a lot. you guys are getting destroyed and richardson has been cruising.

If you want to deal with the headache all year out of spite, go ahead. Or you can try to figure out a way to utilize 2 versatile big men in Hassan/Towns. I think given some time, it could actually be a formidable combo.

[DayofMourning]

It’s possible, but I don’t see Rich making that same leap. Well, not to the same extent.

17/3/3 or something? Yeah could see it. He delivered that at times last year. But I don’t see him taking over and delivering the 22/5/5 type line Butler does on a nightly basis.

You could argue that 17/3/3 on $10m per >>>> 22/5/5 on $30+m though.

I’d still roll the dice on Butler personally, but I can see the counter argument. Ideally you’d get him for Hassan and a 1st or some chit and pair them on the wing together for ultimate domination.

Im being a bit hyperbolic, but I would like to see Rich find his spots and take that next step. Same with Winslow.

As for adding Butler at SG, Id like it more if we could get rid of Dion.

Man, I’d legit cream myself if we got Butler while retaining all our young guys. Can you imagine a 4th quarter lineup of Winslow/Rich/Butler/JJ/Bam or KO? Would be super sick.

Hassan and a protected first?

[gom]

Timberwolves got hammered and shot ****

[KGdaBom]

Since it is very unlikely the Wolves will take Waiters in any deal just curious if you could get the deal done with Winslow or Olynyk along with Richardson Which of those would you be more willing to part with? I'm guessing Olynyk even though I consider him an easily better player than Winslow?

Winslow is impossible to trade right now because of the PPP with his extension, and with what's going on in Minnesota, no chance Miami gives more, if anything, they're offering less today after the past 48 hours.

Notice I was talking a hypothetical IF you could get the deal done with one of them which would you prefer to part with? Just trying to gauge who Miami fans think is more expendable.

[ifrosty13]

Since it is very unlikely the Wolves will take Waiters in any deal just curious if you could get the deal done with Winslow or Olynyk along with Richardson Which of those would you be more willing to part with? I'm guessing Olynyk even though I consider him an easily better player than Winslow?

Winslow is impossible to trade right now because of the PPP with his extension, and with what's going on in Minnesota, no chance Miami gives more, if anything, they're offering less today after the past 48 hours.

Notice I was talking a hypothetical IF you could get the deal done with one of them which would you prefer to part with? Just trying to gauge who Miami fans think is more expendable.

I don't think any good player can be attached to Jrich for the Heat to accept. Riley stance seems like, if you wan't Jrich you gotta take a bad deal from us, if not, you can take Hassan or Dragic.

While I would part way with Olynyk or Winslow for butler, I wouldn't do it with Jrich attached as the main piece.

[gom]

Not interested in trading Hassan the year he is an allstar. Tear the league apart, young fellow. (I am as old as f so I can say that with respect). Crush!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[KGdaBom]

Winslow is impossible to trade right now because of the PPP with his extension, and with what's going on in Minnesota, no chance Miami gives more, if anything, they're offering less today after the past 48 hours.

Notice I was talking a hypothetical IF you could get the deal done with one of them which would you prefer to part with? Just trying to gauge who Miami fans think is more expendable.

I don't think any good player can be attached to Jrich for the Heat to accept. Riley stance seems like, if you wan't Jrich you gotta take a bad deal from us, if not, you can take Hassan or Dragic.

While I would part way with Olynyk or Winslow for butler, I wouldn't do it with Jrich attached as the main piece.

You still didn't answer the question. Are you a politician? Once again the only deal that ever made much sense if we are trying to be somewhat realistic was Hassan and J Rich for Bulter and Dieng no pick involved. Neither side would be very happy so that is how you know it's fair.

[gom]

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Notice I was talking a hypothetical IF you could get the deal done with one of them which would you prefer to part with? Just trying to gauge who Miami fans think is more expendable.

I don't think any good player can be attached to Jrich for the Heat to accept. Riley stance seems like, if you wan't Jrich you gotta take a bad deal from us, if not, you can take Hassan or Dragic.

While I would part way with Olynyk or Winslow for butler, I wouldn't do it with Jrich attached as the main piece.

You still didn't answer the question. Are you a politician? Once again the only deal that ever made much sense if we are trying to be somewhat realistic was Hassan and J Rich for Bulter and Dieng no pick involved. Neither side would be very happy so that is how you know it's fair.

[HEATVols865]

KGdaBom would be saying the T-Wolves are in the driver’s seat of an IndyCar spinning towards the wall at Indy...


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